Tribulation physics

[florida2]

AV knows that's too weak of an argument.

The Bible doesn't say "rapture" ... yet the Rapture is a major doctrine.

The Bible doesn't say "Trinity" ... yet the Trinity is a major doctrine.

Where in the Bible does it talk about the 'age of accountability?'

 

[AV1611VET]

Where in the Bible does it talk about the 'age of accountability?'

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[GoldenBoy89]

Future changes in creatures according to the bible will be fast and major. The Tribulation is at that final period on earth just prior to, and leading into the time when the earth will be ruled by God. Creatures like wolves and lions will eat grass, which means of course major major changes. This is to be far far far faster than any present day evolving could ever take place. In a matter of months after the Tribulation, we will see the changed creatures. This brings up the question about past evolution on earth. If the nature of that day was also different, then evolving was also probably fast fast fast.

Another Tribulation evolution hallmark will be that human life spans will jump, due to changed nature and laws, most likely. Certainly in the Millennium the bible indicates this to be the case. In the days just before the Millennium also we see that men can't die when they want to, so it is possible that the different nature will exist at that time.

The laws of physics will not be as we know them now during the Tribulation. We are told of atmospheric changes that allow huge ice hailstones about 100 pounds each. The plate movements we know now to be slow and small will be huge and fast apparently also. Every mountain on earth leveled, and every island moved out of it's place. The sun will go out. In this present time and according to science that would mean the death of all life on earth. Not so in that time!

The stars also will all go out. We also will again see spirits living directly on earth among men. Demons from space and below the earth. Angels also broadcasting to mankind. This reminds us of the pre flood era, when spirits married humans.

The fundamental laws will be so different that apparently even motors and planes will not work. This is evidenced by a mass exodus of refugees from Israel, who the government of the day wants to kill every one of them...but can't! In this present time we would see airplanes and helicopters, etc simply mow them down. Easily.

At one point a third of the plants on earth will die. The sea life also. Yet, somehow people live on...so we may have the fast plant and tree growth again. Certainly months after (or days) the Tribulation we will have the fast growth.

From dust man was made and to dust he returned in Adam's day. That process was likely FAST, because we see that no remains of man or fossils from that time exist! In the Tribulation again, we see at the final battle, an army that apparently dies on it's feet. The eyes will decay away in their heads. This is the sort of after death rapid decaying that one might expect if man again was in a changed nature and returned to the dust very fast!

Science has assumed a present nature and laws, and present state evolving rates and processes etc to formulate all their bizarre anti bible scenarios of origins.

Intelligent people everywhere should put science in it's little place.


That place is not above God, or overruling His word to man on the past or future.

So while all this is happening, does gravity stop working too? Or does that stay for the convenience of keeping things together?
I can see it now! We'll have to call black 'white', night will be day, tall will be short.. Etc etc.. How fun! An upside-down, backwards world.

 

[Jamin4422]

Where in the Bible does it talk about the 'age of accountability?'

Mostly in the story of Jesus when He was 12 years old and He said: "Did you not know that I must be about My Father's business?”

 

[Jamin4422]

So while all this is happening, does gravity stop working too?

You got it all backwards. God is restoring creation to His plan and Purpose. When God performs a miracle everything it restored back to the way it should be according to his plan and purpose.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

You got it all backwards. God is restoring creation to His plan and Purpose. When God performs a miracle everything it restored back to the way it should be according to his plan and purpose.

So did God have it right from the beginning? Or did he have to make some adjustments? Did he know from the beginning, he would have to revise his original plan?

 

[Tiberius]

Jocularity breeds confusion, doesn't it?

No, just insistence on a literal interpretation...

The proper way to ask that question is: So the baby gets sent to Heaven before he reaches the age of accountability?

So the baby goes to Heaven before the age of accountability, is raised and then (once the baby reaches the A of A) is judged to see whether he is going to be allowed access to Heaven for eternity?

Well, that doesn't seem fair. The baby has an unfair advantage. He gets to see God every single day. And yet I'm often told that God doesn't provide proof of himself here on Earth because that would violate our free will. So then why is it okay for the baby to get such proof?

No.

For the third time now, the baby is saved by grace through innocence.

(Who was it here asked me if I have ever corrected anyone; after I made the remark, I correct you guys more than you correct me?)

Then why does it need to reach the age of accountability?

 

[AV1611VET]

No, just insistence on a literal interpretation...



So the baby goes to Heaven before the age of accountability, is raised and then (once the baby reaches the A of A) is judged to see whether he is going to be allowed access to Heaven for eternity?

Well, that doesn't seem fair. The baby has an unfair advantage. He gets to see God every single day. And yet I'm often told that God doesn't provide proof of himself here on Earth because that would violate our free will. So then why is it okay for the baby to get such proof?



Then why does it need to reach the age of accountability?

Have a good day!

 

[Jamin4422]

So did God have it right from the beginning? Or did he have to make some adjustments? Did he know from the beginning, he would have to revise his original plan?

God could have known if He had wanted to know. But that would have shown a lack of faith in Adam. God did have to make adjustment. Hell was prepared for the devil and the angels that followed him. God had to enlarge hell to make room for man. We are told that for those that go to heaven Jesus prepares a place for them.

 

[TLK Valentine]

God could have known if He had wanted to know.

Willful ignorance is still ignorance.

But that would have shown a lack of faith in Adam.

It also would've shown prudence. Place a being with absolutely no sense of right and wrong next to something that will muck up your entire plan if he messes with it, and expect him to do the right thing?

Yeah, that was going to end well.

God did have to make adjustment. Hell was prepared for the devil and the angels that followed him. God had to enlarge hell to make room for man.

Was hell too small before? Does God do His own remodeling, or does He subcontract that out to someone?

We are told that for those that go to heaven Jesus prepares a place for them.

So, the Son of God is... what, your butler?

 

[Tiberius]

Have a good day!

Here we go.

Now either I'm right or I'm wrong.

If I'm right, then rather than deal with the truth, you are running away.

If I'm wrong, then you either can't explain it clearly or have no desire to explain it clearly.

Which is it, AV?

 

[Mr Strawberry]

Have a good day!

Thinking required so AV1611VET departs.

 

[dad]

So while all this is happening, does gravity stop working too? Or does that stay for the convenience of keeping things together?
I can see it now! We'll have to call black 'white', night will be day, tall will be short.. Etc etc.. How fun! An upside-down, backwards world.

Tell us what does gravity work on? Physical objects. Since there will be more than that involved one assumes there will be more than that at work. Glad that rocks your world, that is a good first step.

 

[dad]

So did God have it right from the beginning? Or did he have to make some adjustments? Did he know from the beginning, he would have to revise his original plan?

Unless you knew His original plan how would you know if it was revised????

 

[Tiberius]

Tell us what does gravity work on? Physical objects. Since there will be more than that involved one assumes there will be more than that at work. Glad that rocks your world, that is a good first step.

Gravity works on spacetime.

 

[dad]

Gravity works on spacetime.

Right and it works on a disco ball. So? Earth space time is a passing fad. One only in a certain neighborhood even.

 

[Tiberius]

Right and it works on a disco ball. So? Earth space time is a passing fad. One only in a certain neighborhood even.

Oh, here we go again. Provide evidence or leave it go, dad. We're all bored of your unsupported claims.

 

[dad]

Oh, here we go again. Provide evidence or leave it go, dad. We're all bored of your unsupported claims.

Have you evidence that spacetime always will exist and did from science? If not, then do not ask for evidence from science that it will or will nor always exist! The bible clears that up. It will not. Period.


The Tribulation will see many amazing things that are apparently different state. The laws then just won't be what we now see. How could anyone have predicted all that unless the Gos who knows all states was behind it? What do you think would happen in this state if all mountains were shaken so badly they got flattened? How about if the sun and stars went out as out can be? How about spirit beings good and bad being right here for all to see as real as you and I? Etc etc etc. Tribulation physics are not our physics.

 

[Tiberius]

Have you evidence that spacetime always will exist and did from science? If not, then do not ask for evidence from science that it will or will nor always exist! The bible clears that up. It will not. Period.


The Tribulation will see many amazing things that are apparently different state. The laws then just won't be what we now see. How could anyone have predicted all that unless the Gos who knows all states was behind it? What do you think would happen in this state if all mountains were shaken so badly they got flattened? How about if the sun and stars went out as out can be? How about spirit beings good and bad being right here for all to see as real as you and I? Etc etc etc. Tribulation physics are not our physics.

Have you got any valid evidence that spacetime is different at any place or time? No? Then drop it.

We're all sick of you claiming things and then thinking you don't need to provide evidence for it. You have NOTHING.

 

[dad]

Have you got any valid evidence that spacetime is different at any place or time? No? Then drop it.

Yes. The only sort of evidence that can deal with it. God's word. Since you have no science that can deal with it, you best be waving that white flag.