Tribulation physics

[dad]

Dad's magic explanation for everything: if something does not agree with his view of the world it is because it changed over time.

Better than 'all things remain the same since the Fathers died'!

 

[mzungu]

The exodus was something I would suspect that might be stricken from the records. You know politicians. As for the flood, remember that they used little pictures to communicate and the earliest ones could have changed meanings over time.


Looking at this early pic, I almost had to give my head a shake...looked almost like 8 people in a boat!

Egyptian hieroglyphic | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

All Hell will freeze over before you ever agree that you have been wrong. You do realise that the majority of Christians do not agree with your views and that pride is a sin? I do not mean this as an insult!

 

[dad]

All Hell will freeze over before you ever agree that you have been wrong.

I agree I am right, does that count?

You do realise that the majority of Christians do not agree with your views and that pride is a sin?

Yes. But pray for them, that their pride will no longer get in the way.

I do not mean this as an insult!

Even if you did, it would not much matter.

 

[Tiberius]

The exodus was something I would suspect that might be stricken from the records. You know politicians.

And conveniently enough, the entire population of Egypt at the time was made up of politicians.

As for the flood, remember that they used little pictures to communicate and the earliest ones could have changed meanings over time.

Ah, your evidence by guessing.

Looking at this early pic, I almost had to give my head a shake...looked almost like 8 people in a boat!

Egyptian hieroglyphic | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

I guess those little pictures didn't change then? So you were wrong just a moment ago?

 

[mzungu]

Not wishing to derail this thread I just want to show you all some statistics reported on CNN:

Are religious Americans really this stupid? - YouTube

 

[Elendur]

Not wishing to derail this thread I just want to show you all some statistics reported on CNN:

Are religious Americans really this stupid? - YouTube

Interesting results.

 

[TLK Valentine]

The exodus was something I would suspect that might be stricken from the records. You know politicians.

I know how desperate you are to spout this without a shred of support.

I know politicians have enemies, and the Egyptians are no exception.

I know that even if the Egyptians were somehow able to expunge every single reference to the plagues or the exodus from their history, their neighboring rivals would have no reason to do so.

Egypt had enemies, and enemies have spies. isn't it funny how not a single one of them ever reported the series of "natural" disasters culminating with the alleged destruction of the Pharaoh and his army at the Red Sea?

Wouldn't that be a weakness that just begged to be exploited?

As for the flood, remember that they used little pictures to communicate and the earliest ones could have changed meanings over time.


Looking at this early pic, I almost had to give my head a shake...looked almost like 8 people in a boat!

So, every time you see something that looks like eight people in a boat, it must be a reference to the Genesis flood? Are you even trying anymore?

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(Incidentally, where are the animals?)

 

[mzungu]

(Incidentally, where are the animals?)

My first though too! But knowing DAD he will say something like they were depicted but since it was a different state past they have now disappeared from the depiction!

No matter what you say or do; You cannot beat a child at a make believe game if you are using logic and hard facts. The only way to play the game is to make believe yourself. Now if we were to inform dad that those are not people on a boat but Kardasians on a spaceship out to invade earth then we would be getting somewhere.

 

[Jamin4422]

Now, how about you impress us with your study of Egypt?

One thing is for sure, if all you read is infidel and skeptic websites then your not going to learn anything because they do not know nothing there. There is a LOT of archeology evidence to back up the Bible. When I show it to you then your going to say: so what that does not prove miracles are true. NO, but it proves YOUR WRONG and there is PLENTY of evidence to confirm the historical accuracy of the Bible. Here is a recent report of what Science can tell you:

New Text of Ben Sira Found Among Cairo Geniza Fragments | Digging with Darren

 

[Jamin4422]

You cannot beat a child at a make believe game if you are using logic and hard facts.

So you do not want to come out of your make believe world to accept the scientific evidence that the Bible is accurate and true? You have already disregarded more then enough. You will be without excuse because you knew the truth and you rejected the truth. The Bible says you will know the truth and the truth will set you free. You have rejected truth, so your choice is for bondage. I know sin is fun for a season, but then like a credit card there is a price to pay with interest.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]He chose to be mistreated along with the people of God rather than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a short time.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Some faced jeers and flogging, while still others were chained and put in prison. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]37[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]They were stoned[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]; they were sawed in two; they were put to death by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated— [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]38[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, and in caves and holes in the ground.[/FONT]

 

[The Engineer]

When I show it to you then your going to say: so what that does not prove miracles are true. NO, but it proves YOUR WRONG and there is PLENTY of evidence to confirm the historical accuracy of the Bible.

What?!

NO, but it proves YOUR WRONG

WHAT?!

YOUR WRONG

My wrong?

Sorry, but whenever I see this error, a part of me dies.

I would comment on the actual content of your post, but there's not much to comment on. The article you posted doesn't support the validity of the bible in the slightest, and you didn't present us a single shred of evidence that the bible is historically accurate or that your belief is backed up by science.

 

[Jamin4422]

I know that even if the Egyptians were somehow able to expunge every single reference to the plagues or the exodus from their history, their neighboring rivals would have no reason to do so.

There is a lot of historical evidence that they have hidden away in basements and in storage. During the 1,000 year reign of Christ they will bring it all out and it will see the light of day. They will put all the Hebrew Artifacts on display so the whole world can see the evidence that so often gets hidden away in this day and age that we are now living in. In a way it is a good thing. Far to often things get sold and the historical context is lost. So really they are doing us all a favor by hiding it away and protecting the rich heritage of the Hebrew people. There is still plenty of evidence for the infidels and skeptics so that they are without excuse. They can not try to cop a plea and claim they did not know. God makes sure that people KNOW the truth. Then they get to decide if they want to abide in the truth or if they want to reject God and reject the truth. (Light of day means the truth will be known. Of course artifacts are protected from any damage from natural sun light)

 

[Jamin4422]

I would comment on the actual content of your post, but there's not much to comment on. The article you posted doesn't support the validity of the bible in the slightest, and you didn't present us a single shred of evidence that the bible is historically accurate or that your belief is backed up by science.

We can do this as long as you want to do it, until your willing to admit that Egypt really is a county and there is historical accuracy with the Bible. Just to what extent are YOU willing to go to be a traitor to science? Could you let me know in advance before I start filling book after book after book with what Science can verify is true and accurate in the Bible. But of course this is going to be a waste of time if your going to reject science.

In the end you can still reject the truth. But you will be held accountable. So you will be without excuse when you go before the Judgement Throne of God and all your excuses shatter like glass and will be shown to be worthless as a defense. It is YOUR choice to make. God gives you that choice and you will be held accountable for the choice you make.

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Deuteronomy 30:19(NIV)

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19 This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live

 

[TLK Valentine]

One thing is for sure, if all you read is infidel and skeptic websites then your not going to learn anything because they do not know nothing there.

Right, they do not know nothing; they know plenty.

There is a LOT of archeology evidence to back up the Bible. When I show it to you then your going to say: so what that does not prove miracles are true.

Egypt, my friend -- stay focused. This discussion is about Egypt.

Put up or shut up.

New Text of Ben Sira Found Among Cairo Geniza Fragments | Digging with Darren

Yes, well, we already knew that some Jews fled to Egypt to escape the Babylonian captivity in 597 BC-- I'm afraid you're at least a thousand years off from what you're trying to prove.

Interestingly enough, we also have Egyptian records showing Jewish citizens living comfortably and soldiers in service to the Egyptians around that time. They even built a new Temple at Elephantine to replace the destroyed Jerusalem one.

http://www.ancientsudan.org/articles_jewish_elephantine.html

 

[TLK Valentine]

There is a lot of historical evidence that they have hidden away in basements and in storage. During the 1,000 year reign of Christ they will bring it all out and it will see the light of day.

Now you're just making stuff up.

You really have nothing of substance, do you? That's a feat, even for this thread.

 

[The Engineer]

We can do this as long as you want to do it, until your willing to admit that Egypt really is a county and there is historical accuracy with the Bible.

When did I ever state that Egypt is not a country?!

And no, the bible is not historically accurate.

Just to what extent are YOU willing to go to be a traitor to science? Could you let me know in advance before I start filling book after book after book with what Science can verify is true and accurate in the Bible. But of course this is going to be a waste of time if your going to reject science.

I'm not rejecting science. I'm rejecting your unproven assumptions.

In the end you can still reject the truth. But you will be held accountable. So you will be without excuse when you go before the Judgement Throne of God and all your excuses shatter like glass and will be shown to be worthless as a defense. It is YOUR choice to make. God gives you that choice and you will be held accountable for the choice you make.

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Deuteronomy 30:19(NIV)

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19 This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live

Riveting Tale, Chap!

 

[mzungu]

So you do not want to come out of your make believe world to accept the scientific evidence that the Bible is accurate and true? You have already disregarded more then enough. You will be without excuse because you knew the truth and you rejected the truth. The Bible says you will know the truth and the truth will set you free. You have rejected truth, so your choice is for bondage. I know sin is fun for a season, but then like a credit card there is a price to pay with interest.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]He chose to be mistreated along with the people of God rather than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a short time.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Some faced jeers and flogging, while still others were chained and put in prison. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]37[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]They were stoned[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]; they were sawed in two; they were put to death by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated— [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]38[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, and in caves and holes in the ground.[/FONT]

Sorry but last I heard the Earth is NOT flat, The sun does not orbit the earth, fruit bearing trees, herbs and flowering plants came after the sun and not before; Are some of the things the Bible has been proven wrong on.

Of course you could do as most Christians do and use the Bible as a spiritual guide instead of a science textbook and thus there is no conflict with the Bible and science. But since you insist on using the Bible to play the Game scientifically then I am afraid you have lost before you have even begun.

By the way in what language did the talking snake use to speak to Eve

 

[Jamin4422]

I'm not rejecting science. I'm rejecting your unproven assumptions.

Ok, that is fine, no problem. I will get out of your way so you can just deal direct with God. I have nothing to prove and I have nothing to gain.

 

[Jamin4422]

By the way in what language did the talking snake use to speak to Eve

What language do you use when you talk to your dog or your cat?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Ok, that is fine, no problem. I will get out of your way so you can just deal direct with God.

Admitting that you were in the way is a step in the right direction.

I have nothing to prove and I have nothing to gain.

Not much to support, either.