Transgender "Inclusive"Language:Where does it end and begin?

[Dave-W]

To the OP: what exactly do you mean by "cis gendered" terminology?
To answer your question I need to understand the language.

 

[morningstar2651]

What is the transgender agenda?

 

[Yeshuas_My_Freedom]

What is the transgender agenda?

Among other things, a website. http://transgenderagenda.com/

 

[morningstar2651]

For those who support the transgender agenda, since everyone and everything human related on the planet should literally be re-defined to help these folks feel better about themselves, and since civilization itself should be re-defined, where does it begin and end?

• So now pregnancy is not an issue women face or something exclusive to women.

According to the politically correct, liberal, social justice warrior elite, "men can be pregnant too now like Thomas Beatie".

Anyone who discusses pregnancy in a conversation using only "cis gendered" women, is a bigot right?

If a Doctor speaks with his patients using only "cis-gendered" labels, should he be fired for bigotry? fined for bigotry? Arrested for bigotry? What should happen?

Should all doctors now be required by federal law to speak in "trans inclusive" language with their pregnant patients?

• Since pregnancy is now not an issue women face or something exclusive to women, abortion "rights" are now legitimately men's issues too.

Abortion clinics and planned parenthood clinics and other women's health clinics, should be required by federal law to use trans-inclusive language correct?
Cuz you know, "men can have abortions too". Now the issue of "pro-choice" is NOT about women's rights isn't it? It is about "men's rights too". Since men can become pregnant now and men can have abortion and men go through childbirth now.

So, should Doctors, like in the regular bulleted scenario above, also be required to speak in trans-inclusive language, to their patients when discussing an abortion option?
What should happen to the Doctor for not using trans-inclusive language when discussing the abortion?

• Since pregnancy and abortion are not about women's rights anymore, shouldn't Roe V. Wade be altered to add trans-inclusive language? You know, for special social justice warrior effects.

The beloved Roe V. Wade--- law of the land, should extend the full protection of reproductive freedom, to men. This has to be done by respecting people's identities who are not women going through a tough pregnancy.

It would be respectful to have trans-inclusive language in Roe V . Wade right?
Also, aren't pro-choice activists whose language exclude "pregnant men", bigots? Since you know, abortion "rights" extend to men cuz you know, men can get pregnant too now, since you know, pregnancy is not a woman's thing.

And so far, shouldn't the biology textbooks EVERYWHERE all around the world, be literally redefined to have "trans-inclusive" language in the topic of pregnancy period? Since you know, men can get pregnant too now, and since you know, transgenderism and inclusivity is a human right that the United Nations and world leaders should unite on to promote.

• Since men can transform into women now, what about menstrual pads, tampons, and other menstrual related products?

Social justice warriors UNITE! Menstrual product related commercials that only depict "cis-gendered" women, are bigoted and discriminatory. Shouldn't these commercials understand that men can have periods too? Duh! But what should happen to any of these menstrual related brands whose advertising is bigoted?
Should these companies pay a fine? Should the CEO be fired? Simple petition? Shouldn't these horrible bigots be arrested? What should happen?

Shouldn't there be a federal law requiring all menstrual relate products to have trans-inclusive labeling/packaging and imagery in advertising?

And so far, on all three bulleted points--As a result, shouldn't supermarkets and stores remove "cis-gendered" labeling in the aisles of the store, when dealing with the pregnancy items section and menstrual items section?
These "cis-gendered" store aisle labels aren't fair cuz you know, men can get pregnant too and can have periods. Duh!

• Since men can transform to women now, shouldn't the definition of "Mother" and "father" be re-defined literally everywhere?

Fathers are not only men and mothers are not only women. Men can be mothers too, and women can be fathers too. It's time for everyone on the planet to get with the program into the 22nd century.
But of course, shouldn't "Mother's Day" and "father's Day" hallmark commercials and other companies or brands celebrating these days, have trans-inclusive families and holiday cards and other imagery? What should happen to these horrible bigots? Should these companies be fined? Simple petition? Should the CEO be fired? Should the marketing team be arrested? What should happen to these bigots?

Also, the textbooks everywhere all around the world, need to make it clear that fatherhood is not exclusive to "cis-gendered" men and motherhood is not exclusive to "cis-gendered" women. The United Nations and world leaders need to step in on this issue and make it clear that any academic book and every dictionary needs to changed everywhere, the definition of "mother" and "father". Cuz you know, Caitlyn Jenner logically celebrated Father's day as a woman and father a few months ago.
Bigots need to get with the times and start incorporating trans-inclusive language and facts on this issue.

• Since men can transform into women now, and men can transform into women, shouldn't all restrooms, shower rooms/locker room, etc be required to mix all men and women together?

You know, what exactly is the point of this OPPRESIIIIVE and bigoted separation between men and women? Not only should transgendered women be allowed to enter women's locker rooms/shower rooms and bathroom, but "cis-gendered" men should be allowed to enter women 's locker/shower rooms and bathrooms too right? Wouldn't it be great if federal law required ALL places with bathrooms and shower/locker rooms to include all men and women period?
Regardless if you are "transgendered","transitioning",or "cisgendered"? Wouldn't it awesome if the United Nations and world leaders came together to implement this everywhere too? You know, what should happen to horrible bigots who refuse? Fine? Arrest? CEO should get fired?

• Since men can transform into women now, and men can transform into women, shouldn't clothing department labels and all other stores with a clothing section, ban "men's and women's clothing"?

You know it is just sooo bigoted and closed minded, that clothing departments and any store with the clothes section have to segregate men and women. Isn't this exclusive against transgendered individuals and even crossdressers? This subliminally promotes the eviiill "cis-gendered" centered world right?

Why should there be a distinction between men and women's clothing? Clothes are clothes. So what should happen to these horrible bigots who separate men and women's clothing? Fine? Simple petition?Arrest? The CEO should be fired? You know, wouldn't it be great if Federal law required all stores remove the "men's" and "women's" clothing sections? The clothes should just be racked up together. And what about shoes!!!!?????

"men's"and women's" shoes section are also horribly bigoted. Not only should federal law include this too but shouldn't the UniteD Nations and world leaders step in to implement this in all nations everywhere? Trans people have feelings too and everyone period who wants to wear any clothing should not be offended to see these evil bigoted clothing departments segregate these items. Shame on them.

• Since men can transform into women, and women can transform into men, now is the time that people understand that sports gender separation is bigotry

Did you know, that horrible bigots are responsible for propagating the MYTH that men and women, boys and girls, are different? Also, these bigots help push hateful trans-exclusive rules in the world of sports. There should be no "ATP Tennis" and "WTA Tennis". There is no difference between male and female tennis players. And you know, since men can become a woman and a woman can become a man, then what's the point with the bigoted rules?
Equality is what's best. Men should be able to play against the women in singles.And women should be able to play against the men in singles. Also, why should this be exclusive to Tennis?

This should also apply to basketball, football, soccer, and every other sport.
Who says trans men cannot fight "cisgendered" men in boxing and MMA? Who says that cisgendered women cannot fight cisgendered men in boxing and MMA? Bigots.

Shouldn't sports organizations, that separate men and women games be punished?What should happen to these bigots? Fine? Arrest? Simple petition? CEO get fired? Shouldn't there be a Federal law, requiring sports organizations to remove the separation of "men's" and "women's" games? Also wouldn't it be great if the United Nations and world leaders, got together to remove this HORRIBLE SEGREGATION of the sexes in sports games?

Social justice warriors, UNITE!!!!!!

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Thanks for proposing these great ideas LovelyGiselle. Let's get these proposals implemented ASAP.

 

[Cute Tink]

I am trans and I don't know what you mean by "transgender agenda".

"Cis gender" literally means "not transgender".

As to the rest of the OP, I don't make it a habit to call people bigots, call for people to be fired, etc. The rest of the OP is a ridiculous rant I'm not going to bother responding to.

 

[Cute Tink]

GID is mental disorder, and "trans" is a feeble, primitive way of dealing with it. As we do more research, it will fade into history as better treatments arise.

GID is an outdated term. It is now classified as Gender Dysphoria to remove the idea that the individual is disordered. Your statement is factually incorrect.

I gather when you say "'trans' is a feeble, primitive way of dealing with it" that you mean "transition", which isn't normally shortened to "trans".

FYI, if more effective treatments arise that don't involve surgery, many people would embrace them.

 

[super animator]

Thanks for proposing these great ideas LovelyGiselle. Let's get these proposals implemented ASAP.

I'm calling a poe.

 

[super animator]

I am trans and I don't know what you mean by "transgender agenda".

It's the same nonsense as the "gay agenda". I call it spooky spooky boo.

 

[Grizzly]

Until supporting evidence that "liberals" are pushing this agenda is provided, I would have to say that is argument is one of the largest strawmen I have seen in a long while.

 

[DaisyDay]

Why should I mind be "labeled" cis gendered or a cis woman? It's accurate and, depending on the context and conversation, can be edifying and appropriate.

I don't understand the problem with being polite to transgendered people. As far as I can tell, the agenda is the same as the agenda of most people - to be accepted. It not only doesn't hurt me, but it makes my life richer to know people different than myself - I'm not God's prototype of how everyone else should be. It's a wide and wonderful world, rich with variation.

Golden rule.

 

[morningstar2651]

I'm calling a poe.

Whoops! Forgot the winking smiley.

 

[Red Fox]

Why should I mind be "labeled" cis gendered or a cis woman? It's accurate and, depending on the context and conversation, can be edifying and appropriate.

I don't understand the problem with being polite to transgendered people. As far as I can tell, the agenda is the same as the agenda of most people - to be accepted. It not only doesn't hurt me, but it makes my life richer to know people different than myself - I'm not God's prototype of how everyone else should be. It's a wide and wonderful world, rich with variation.

Golden rule.

That is true, especially when you consider how Christians are commanded by Jesus Christ to love their neighbor as they would love themselves. I seriously doubt they would have such self hate and contempt for themselves or if they did, they would need some serious professional help. If they are going to represent Jesus Christ to the world and lift Him up before all men, as He commanded them to, then many of these Christians are going to have to change their attitude and start treating the people they do not like or approve of with more respect and compassion. Otherwise, they could do more damage to the name of Christ and to His image than they could ever possibly realize.

 

[SnowyMacie]

As a liberal and someone who isn't cis gender (which by way simply means "not transgender", like straight means "heterosexual"), I've always wondered what these agendas we supposedly have are.

 

[Yeshuas_My_Freedom]

GID is mental disorder, and "trans" is a feeble, primitive way of dealing with it. As we do more research, it will fade into history as better treatments arise.

Notice how the trans=agenda label is mocked? While it is the trans community that invented a classification for non-trans people. "Cis" gendered? What's the "Cis" short for?

And non-trans have to have a label? To differentiate themselves from the Trans labels?
That's the plan of reforming societal nomenclature at work.

Trans box with labels the natural born emotionally and mentally healthy individuals to classify themselves so they'll not be confused with Transgender people who argue all they're looking for is........equality because labels are cruel!

And the Trans men that think they're female inside have an easier time of it as far as surgical alterations are concerned. If they're female inside they shouldn't hesitate to get their male member surgically removed.

 

[SnowyMacie]

Notice how the trans=agenda label is mocked? While it is the trans community that invented a classification for non-trans people. "Cis" gendered? What's the "Cis" short for?

"Cis" is a Latin-derived prefix, just like trans, but means "on the side of".

 

[Yeshuas_My_Freedom]

Thanks. Now we know "Cis" makes no sense even more than before.

 

[SnowyMacie]

Thanks. Now we know "Cis" makes no sense even more than before.

In Latin, cis is the opposite of "trans", which means "on the opposite side of". Cisgender means "on the same side as your gender", transgender means "the opposite of your gender". Cis and Trans is also used in chemistry... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cis–trans_isomerism

 

[DaisyDay]

Trans box with labels the natural born emotionally and mentally healthy individuals to classify themselves so they'll not be confused with Transgender people who argue all they're looking for is........equality because labels are cruel!

We have more than a few trangendered members here, yet I can't recall one of them ever making that particular argument. Perhaps you have a linkie?

 

[Cute Tink]

Notice how the trans=agenda label is mocked? While it is the trans community that invented a classification for non-trans people. "Cis" gendered? What's the "Cis" short for?

As noted, it is not short for anything. The trans community did not create a classification for non-trans people.

And non-trans have to have a label? To differentiate themselves from the Trans labels?
That's the plan of reforming societal nomenclature at work.

Trans box with labels the natural born emotionally and mentally healthy individuals to classify themselves so they'll not be confused with Transgender people who argue all they're looking for is........equality because labels are cruel!

People like to classify. If you have one label, they will make an opposite. Labels themselves are not cruel.

And the Trans men that think they're female inside have an easier time of it as far as surgical alterations are concerned. If they're female inside they shouldn't hesitate to get their male member surgically removed.

Trans woman is the proper term for male to female.

Clearly you don't realize the fact that getting bottom surgery is a costly, long term process that insurance may not yet cover for the trans person. It's not as easy as just saying, "I'm trans, give me surgery".

 

[Cute Tink]

Among other things, a website. http://transgenderagenda.com/

Yes, this is the kind of website you just linked to:

About how there are biologically "intersex" people, born naturally with various combinations of sexual characteristics and genetics, and about what implications that might have for the traditional "gender binary:" About whether the rapes and murders of Transgendered "people" should carry the same weight as crimes against normal people

There are biologically intersex people. Denying that is absurd.

And this website implies that we are less than people. Congrats on finding this awful site.

There is nothing on that website worth reading.