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It's A definition of homosexuality...I said "married," not "dating." Marriage involves sex and that would be one XY having sex with another XY. Is that not the definition of homosexuality?
People commit sins all the time in ignorance.so someone is comitting a sin if they don't know the person is male? Or they are interseted in them because of their outward appearance? Man this is pretty intolerant.
Yes I understand all that. And I am in a quandary as to what should be done with/to/for these people.Chromosones is a stupid way to classify someone, as it doesn't at all relate to appearance, so unless your going to force everyone to have their chromosones checked your not going to find their sex, the way your going. And lets say you find someone thats a male chromosonally but for some reason they have the appearance of a female, are you going to force them into surgery? What will you do to enforce this keeping with their chromosomes?
There are so many situations where males look female, or females look male to a small extent, or carry both genders, this nonsense idea of gender being black or white is outdated.
There are even groups of humans where 'females' become male at puberty, how should they be treated?
Fair enough. IMO the person who underwent GRT is in fact living in sin. So that throws the whole thing into a sinful situation.But let me pose you another scenario... how do you feel about a couple with XX and XY chromosomes getting married and having sex when one of them is, in fact, transgendered and has undergone GRT? So even though they're genetically heterosexual, they are, for all practical purposes, a homosexual couple?
How's GRT sinful?Fair enough. IMO the person who underwent GRT is in fact living in sin. So that throws the whole thing into a sinful situation.
Ladies have what men can't have, in various ways, not only physical.
Well . . . the "easy" answer is women can get pregnant. And I'll offer that sexual parts are for reproducing, not only for using people to get pleasure. And a woman has the ability to help a man, in ways that men can't. I think we can see how, in general, women have been able to do men good in ways that men have not helped each other. They can support, and be reminders of how a guy needs to be kind and caring and nurturing. But, "of course", I understand this is developed partly because of culture and maybe even what you might call "brainwashing".Such as?
There are things, not only sexual, which women are specialized for, which men can't be and do.
This would go more for after a woman becomes a Christian and God changes her into all that is possible for each lady of Jesus. If you are still in a fallen state, you "might" not know what you can do and how you can be good for other people like you could be, with God through Jesus.NAME ONE.
It is not an identity thing, but simply how God has designed each individual.
No, no . . . the problems now are not because of how God designed us. But after He made humans right, humans went after wrong stuff which got them in the messes and confusion we now see . . . or refuse to see.Either he's really bad at following his own plans or you're wrong about sex. See my previous post about XX males and XY females.
Except that they do have usable parts, in a number of "cases". And we can learn how to handle and use well whatever we do have . . . in God's sufficient grace (2 Corinthians 12:9) with His creativity. Only with God can we learn what to do with what we have > Matthew 11:28-30 < we learn with Jesus, who is "gentle and lowly in heart" with us, "and you will find rest for your souls." (Matthew 11:28-30) What we need is how He "alters" us, spiritually and emotionally, so we can be creative and do the loving things and sharing which He intended for us to do with whatever we do have.Let me bring a different perspective: God intended transwomen to be female and transmen to be male, but due to the fallen creation, they were born with the wrong body...much like how people are born with broken or missing body parts.
acknowledged . . . good to meet you, MalvinaWhat a pity we have this on a Christian forum
It's a pity fauxgender even exists. It's a primitive, crude way of dealing with a mental illness.It is a pity that transgender people, and other people who actually show them respect and compassion, feel it necessary to speak up against all of the misinformation, misconception, and even prejudice that transgender people often encounter on a Christian forum such as this one. It is also a pity that there is such a lack of respect and compassion among many Christians for people who are different from how they are or simply people they do not like and approve of. It is a shame that many Christians fail to love their neighbor, that being transgender people in this case, as they would love themselves or to treat other people, transgender people included, as they would like to be treated. So, in that respect, I agree with you. It is a pity we have this on a Christian forum. We should expect more from these Christians, such as showing the love of Christ.
Yet it's the best legions of specialists have yet come up with, and continue to work on. Maybe you shouldn't throw rocks unless you have a better solution?It's a pity fauxgender even exists. It's a primitive, crude way of dealing with a mental illness.
Yet it's the best legions of specialists have yet come up with, and continue to work on. Maybe you shouldn't throw rocks unless you have a better solution?
This is dogma, not reality. Saying it over and over does not make it true.See, an important factor in psychological health is what Freud called "Leidensdruck" (literally: "suffering-pressure", tanslated as "psychological strain/stress"): but with trans*-people, this suffering derives mostly from the hate and rejection inflicted upon them by other people.
Modern psychotherapy for people with gender identity disorders does not resemble the conservative conception of a dual gender structure based on naturalistic fallacies, though. Quite the contrary, having the patient realize just how much of our gender roles is based on random cultural factors is a crucial part of such a treatment.Psychotherapy is much better. The thing is it's not conspicuous so you don't really hear about it, even though it's employed successfully.
So, you believe that a) trans*-people aren't harassed, insulted, rejected, or physically assaulted, or b) you do not believe that these reactions have got anything to do with whether they are content or suffering?This is dogma, not reality. Saying it over and over does not make it true.
gunna have to slap a big ol' [citation needed] on ya, there.Psychotherapy is much better. The thing is it's not conspicuous so you don't really hear about it, even though it's employed successfully.
I liked Geri "Ginger Spice" Halliwell until she declared her undying allegiance to the conservative party and Margaret Thatcher (though I did share her dislike for Blair's "New Labour").No, no, no, you have both been deceived by Satan to think that the Spice Girls even deserve mentioning. The shame...
Except that they do have usable parts, in a number of "cases". And we can learn how to handle and use well whatever we do have . . . in God's sufficient grace (2 Corinthians 12:9) with His creativity. Only with God can we learn what to do with what we have > Matthew 11:28-30 < we learn with Jesus, who is "gentle and lowly in heart" with us, "and you will find rest for your souls." (Matthew 11:28-30) What we need is how He "alters" us, spiritually and emotionally, so we can be creative and do the loving things and sharing which He intended for us to do with whatever we do have.
It's a pity fauxgender even exists. It's a primitive, crude way of dealing with a mental illness.
Psychotherapy is much better. The thing is it's not conspicuous so you don't really hear about it, even though it's employed successfully.
I said "married," not "dating." Marriage involves sex and that would be one XY having sex with another XY. Is that not the definition of homosexuality?
Psychotherapy is much better. The thing is it's not conspicuous so you don't really hear about it, even though it's employed successfully.
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