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I'm just wondering why all three have to be there in order to consider it proper? For anyone.
My brother specializes in downs syndrome. One year he was doing the examines for the special Olympics. He told me that he had downs syndrome people that he examined that he was not able to determine if they were a male or a female. I did not really ask any questions as I did not know that much about it. Although I suppose I could go back and ask him now about it if I wanted to.Hi,
He, Alex, born in a female body, who is but 24 or so, asks me never to consider him as a gender. He/she/neither is what he and apparently the medical community sees his/her/neither's situation as.
It is proper, because for that person, it is the way it is for that person.
Not everyone fits with just a few definitions of existence, such as female, transgender, but there are actually agender (non gendered) people.
LOVE,
Why do you feel that you need to take hormones? Is there some reason your body is not producing those hormones?
My brother specializes in downs syndrome. One year he was doing the examines for the special Olympics. He told me that he had downs syndrome people that he examined that he was not able to determine if they were a male or a female. I did not really ask any questions as I did not know that much about it. Although I suppose I could go back and ask him now about it if I wanted to.
I hope you do not mind if I go in this direction with this. I remember we were in a Chinese restaurant and had gotten to be friends with the women that was the owner. She told us about the yin and the yang. That there was a little male in all females and a little female in all males and that they believe in China that the male and female have to be united to become one. Does that make any sense? Maybe not. Jesus says: "At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.". I wonder about places like the Philippines or Thailand. Where they have what they boy girls and people make a big joke out of it and laugh at them. These people often play along with the joke, but maybe they are crying on the inside. Still they seem to be more open in these countries and in the west sometimes they try to keep this more hidden.Hi,
Here is two ways to answer your question. One the medical community says for the extreme form of being transgender that I have, there is no other treatment option, than surgery and homones. So, that is the scientific answer.
There are all sorts of ways of being transgender, just like there are all sorts of way of being male, or being female. Some forms of being transgender, the people with it, never want hormones, and scientifically and justice wise, a country in Europe last year was forced to change their one solution, (surgery and hormones), fits all decision. The Eupropean Union, version of our Supreme Court told them they are violating the rights of the transgender community by forcing all of them to transition fully. It is what the transgender population had been telling them for years. Not everyone is severely transgendered, like I am.
Another way to answer your question, is my body is male enough to make testosterone, which really disagrees with me. My body is not totally masculinized as some men's bodies are, but you can't tell from looking casually.
It was only after the medical communtity, after I went to a Psychologist to see if essentially I was nuts and not Gender Dysphoric, that I found out how well hormones work for Gender Dysphoria, and they don't really know why.
I told her my Gender Dysphoria lessened instantly upon the use of Estrogen. She, my medical doctor says: Yes and we don't know why, however. However for me it is not enough, and my doctor and everyone knows it.
To help you a little bit with this, how gender can be opposite. For 65 years, I just did what the outward apppearance of my body suggested that I was, and. And when I could no longer handle that, in terms of agony, it soon became necessary to tell everyone that I was Transgender, plus all the other truths, but this is about being transgendered, so the others won't be listed here.
A person, who knew me for years, and she knows me well, says that now she understands me. She said that at no time in my life, did I actually fit what other males were like in the role she knew me by. She said, no Psychologist who listened to her, ever believed that her relation ship with me was male to female, and. And no she is not my wife or girlfriend.
She said that now, she totally gets it. No matter how hard I tried, I was still a female trying to act, like everyone else but me and some others say is true, I was a female trying to act, like a male. Telling her finally at age 65, that I was transgender, allowed her to put all the pieces together.
If I could have, I would have taken this to my grave with telling no one ever. It did not turn out that way, and even God got involved, but not in the way most people presently think, in Religions. He confirmed, my being female, in a male body, within that two years set of approved private revelations.
LOVE,
God does not allow anything in our lives unless good is able to come out of it. We are told "that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose." Even we are told to "give thanks for everything". When I first read that I thought you got to be kidding me. There was so much in life not to be grateful for. Yet we are told to give thanks for everything.
When it comes to things like deafness then you are dealing with sensory deprivation and the mind has ways to compensate for that. If a person is blind from birth and later in life they are able to have a transplant and have sight for the first time, there will still be issues because they did not have sight at essential development stages.
I hope you do not mind if I go in this direction with this. I remember we were in a Chinese restaurant and had gotten to be friends with the women that was the owner. She told us about the yin and the yang. That there was a little male in all females and a little female in all males and that they believe in China that the male and female have to be united to become one. Does that make any sense? Maybe not. Jesus says: "At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.". I wonder about places like the Philippines or Thailand. Where they have what they boy girls and people make a big joke out of it and laugh at them. These people often play along with the joke, but maybe they are crying on the inside. Still they seem to be more open in these countries and in the west sometimes they try to keep this more hidden.
Hi,
I don't mean to pry, but I am new here, and from reading some of your posts, I came to the conclusion that you are a professional scientist of some sort, and I wondered if that is true. Are you involved in astrophysics in any way? I ask because I am interested in metaphysics and a theologian by education.
Your response above was not to me. I loved most of it though. It would say that in my life, as long as I do not lean on my own understandings but God's things are fine, then I have to agree with you it seems.
Nothing about being trangendered for me, has done anything but produce good in this world, at least so far.
I asked a Petecostal one day, who told me he could see auras and was a rather large contributor to this objective scientist type eventually knowing that God is Real. His mysticism and his other Jesus ways for lack of terms here, really impressed me. I would find out why, but that is off the point.
After, I was asked in late 2007, if I would marry, and I was asked as a woman, and I was asked by a male to me, a total male to me. I wanted to catch up with him, as I had not seen him for years, and when I was done, he was under the definite impression, that my purpose for being born Transgender, and that being assented to by God, is to let the Religious world know that God is not against the Transgender, in fact Transgender individuals contribute mightily to this world.
I asked him where he got that from, but he wouldn't tell me. By and within an approved private revelation, but all in waking encounters with God, some so large that all other light compared to God, and later just Jesus was in fact dark, dark compared to Him Jesus, and certainly dark compared to God's Essence, within that approved and proven revelation, is so much information about God, that many have been helped, from me just talking about what happened to me, and. And many who are secretly against God, fight mightily against what I say, and that hopefully outs them to others.
In very straight talk now with you, did you know The Holy Spiirt told me, and certain religion to handle them properly, I am to use Matthew 7:15. Later, I found out why. I found the reason by using the next line down, Matthew 7:16, and. And I found out it not only applies in Religion it applies to all people in the world.
People who hurt others verbally, in secret or in public, for both males and females, are out to hurt others but pretend to be nice people in order to get to them to not only hurt them but to gain from them something like time, or allegiance, or money. Money is a big one for those types, and. And in psychology again highlighting God's command through a blessing to us in Genesis 1:28, to subdue the earth by science and other means, those Psychologists actually have a category for Matthew 7:15 types who out them selves by being thorn bush like, or briar like, while hiding among or pretending to be grape vines, or fig trees. Oh by the way, most everyone has seen grape vines. You cannot get hurt picking grapes from those vines. Also I have experience with two fig trees, they are very similar in that they don't hurt you, but are larger than grape vines, thus I always took that as figs are males, there. Similarly grapes are females.
Most of us who are transgender, or also have physical problems do actually in some form or another thank God for giving us all of those conditions.
LOVE,
I hope you do not mind if I go in this direction with this. I remember we were in a Chinese restaurant and had gotten to be friends with the women that was the owner. She told us about the yin and the yang. That there was a little male in all females and a little female in all males and that they believe in China that the male and female have to be united to become one. Does that make any sense? Maybe not. Jesus says: "At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.". I wonder about places like the Philippines or Thailand. Where they have what they boy girls and people make a big joke out of it and laugh at them. These people often play along with the joke, but maybe they are crying on the inside. Still they seem to be more open in these countries and in the west sometimes they try to keep this more hidden.
Remember, if you lay down with dogs you get up with fleas.
If I were you I wouldn't waste my time getting trapped up having Internet arguments with sheltered people with no real life experience, but alas, I am not you.
more misrepresenting what I said. When someone says, "you want me to believe" what they are saying is, this sounds absurd, please clarify if I am correct in how I read you. In this case, that means, are you telling me that this person asked you to refer to him/her/neither as him/her/neither? How would that look in conversation....Hey Joe, how's it going, I was wondering if (instead of you insert) he/she/neither was going to go to the park with us? Oh, wait, wouldn't that mean that US would also be he/she/neither? I had this conversation once with a transgender person and it is totally absurd to me. "Hello, Bonnie, nice to see he/she/neither tonight, maybe if you have time to hang out he/she/neither can hang out with them/their/they at the party. Really, that just is the most insanely awkwardly worded sentence structure I have ever seen. But since you don't "care what I believe" I guess we are to assume that this is exactly how you talk to this friend of yours. I'm so glad that I don't have to cater to that kind of nonsense in the people I call friends.Hi,
I certainly care nothing about what you believe. It is not my job.
now wait a moment, you just covered about your friend and in two places referred to him/her/neither as he and his. That would mean that you just hated your friend by not using your friends chosen words of he/she/neither instead of he and his....shame on you for hating your friend so much that you called your friend he and his instead of your friends preferred pronoun of he/she/neither. shame shame shame shame and yet you all have the nerve to judge me for using he/she/it when I don't know what pronoun is preferred....shame shame shame on you.I can prove that statement. Do you wish it to be done, but with consequences for you? I will see if he, who I just exchanged two emails with today, will counter your words with his words, or whether he will agree with you?
but in this very post you are abusing your friend repeatedly because you replace your friends preferred pronouns of he/she/neither with he yet again. Seriously, why do you have to judge someone you are calling a friend by using a pronoun like he to refer to someone who wants to be called he/she/neither? Man if that is how you treat your friends I would hate to be an enemy, at least since you think that pronouns are such a huge deal that if your friend says call me "he/she/neither" you can't even accommodate and insist on calling your friend "he"...disturbing, very disturbing....I would rather not bother him, as he has been abused vebally and assaulted for years over this issue, thus suffered at one time from severe PTSD. He also gets flashbacks from time to time.
well, this sentence starts out with less hate, but then you neglect to call your friend he/she/neither in exchange for he again. I really don't get why you would call Alex a friend and then refuse to call Alex "he/she/neither" like Alex asked you to do and instead keep calling Alex he...this is just horrible of you to be so hateful of Alex that you refuse to use he/she/neither for every pronoun instead, you hate Alex by using he....I don't even know what to say at this point, hate is of the devil and yet according to the transgender people on this thread, all you have done when it comes to your friend Alex is hate him/her/neither.If you need this I will tell him of your need, and see what gender wise, he/she/neither who goes by the personal name of Alex with me, for my conveniences, and I will see if he will respond to you directly, so you don't have to interface with me.
I don't personally care what pronoun Alex goes by, never have, never will, but I will reserve one pronoun where one is called for, because I personally find that to be respectful. To insist that every pronoun be replaced with he/she/neither is just nuts. But then again, this whole discussion has been nuts, so expected that you would think not saying he/she/neither for every pronoun is hate, then turn around and refuse to conform to Alex's wishes as you have presented them.I will want something from you, if you take it this far.
Do you want to go there or not?
LOVE,
okay, I have heard you disrespect Alex for the last time, the second word in this post uses the pronoun he instead of he/she/neither as you said your friend wished to be addressed. I will not listen to you disrespect your friend anymore. Shame on you for hating your friend. Washing my hands of your hate.Hi,
He, Alex, born in a female body, who is but 24 or so, asks me never to consider him as a gender. He/she/neither is what he and apparently the medical community sees his/her/neither's situation as.
It is proper, because for that person, it is the way it is for that person.
Not everyone fits with just a few definitions of existence, such as female, transgender, but there are actually agender (non gendered) people.
LOVE,
If I did not actually love everyone here, I don't think I would be here. How do you ignore those you love?
50 years ago I had a class in Ancient History. The teacher was a Hebrew that got out of Germany right before the Holocaust. He seemed so strict but he had a heart of gold. I left the school because it was so boring and I wanted more excitement in my life. He was unhappy that I was leaving and pleaded with my mom to try and get me to stay. He just felt there was a lot he could do to help me. Not to long ago I found out he was almost 100 and living in Florida. I sent him a card or letter or something, but he did not reply. Then very recently I heard that he died. Lots of people at the school remember him well and have lots of nice things to say about him. It was soon after he died that I started to feel his presence in a way, from Heaven. I did not much feel anything when he was still alive. But now it is as if he wants to help to help me and I do seem to understand Egyptian history a lot better now. So it is like I am getting some help from him.Hi,
I made a mistake above. My YES, and loudly made us one. I was instantly married, when I said YES. The consumation, I never expected, but it makes sense, if I am what I say I am, and. And, I would say like Paul said one day, not all things are to be said, as if I could ever keep my mouth shut.
I am the biggest blabbermouth, in the sense that is something is true, it is true, and why withold it? I will tell all and say all, but normally that part of my life, is not even handled well by what I call living saints, those people on earth like Theresa Little Flower, and Padre Pio who are not to pray for themselves anymore, and no one is supposed to pray for them either.
Normal humans, those without a large direct contact with God in some way, cannot usually understand anything I say about God, and the history books are filled with just that conclusion, but. But I will put their statements in my terms not theirs.
What is so simple to me; What I know so well; even with clear concise descriptions; even using mutiple types of descriptions; is just not understood, by anyone who has not actually had contact with God yet, and sometimes contact with God in that way.
One of the problems might be, is the way God communicated with me, which I hope is the standard way. My words, plus a feeling with content from Him, plus a vision with content from Him, and an interaction with content with Him, is in all of my contacts with God.
When I want to tell someone about just one part, seeing The The Essence of God, Trinitarianly. How do I give you the feeling of joy? How do I give you the feeling of The Power of The Holy Spirit. How do I tell you of the Royal blue on one side of each of Them that I still do not undestand, and to me should not be there, but it is. How, do I tell you of the man dissapearing as God, in His Essence gets brighter and brighter. How do I tell you of feeling God? How do I tell you of falling in love with God? How do I tell you of the agony? How do I tell you of sensing where God is? How do I tell you, of the agony of: "You can't leave me like this. You can't" "He'll take me. He'll take me." How can I tell you that just not being able to see God is agony and I spent more than 18 months without another exposure to Him, like that. There is much more.
I cannot give you the feelings with content, while talking about Jesus, but I would like to. I can't tell you as I am sure, it will not work, just like the hours I used to spend telling people about God, Your Trinitarian God, only to find out, he or she did not understand a single word.
It was my YES, actually on the third and last time I was to be asked that question, that made me married. I was married then, and started to become one, with Him.
LOVE,
okay, I have heard you disrespect Alex for the last time, the second word in this post uses the pronoun he instead of he/she/neither as you said your friend wished to be addressed. I will not listen to you disrespect your friend anymore. Shame on you for hating your friend. Washing my hands of your hate.
It's I won't listen to your hate speech anymore, if you can talk about transgender people without the hate speech we are good, but disrespecting people who are already hurting is just a very low blow for someone who claims to be living so much good in the world.Hi,
Is this good-bye then?
LOVE,
50 years ago I had a class in Ancient History. The teacher was a Hebrew that got out of Germany right before the Holocaust. He seemed so strict but he had a heart of gold. I left the school because it was so boring and I wanted more excitement in my life. He was unhappy that I was leaving and pleaded with my mom to try and get me to stay. He just felt there was a lot he could do to help me. Not to long ago I found out he was almost 100 and living in Florida. I sent him a card or letter or something, but he did not reply. Then very recently I heard that he died. Lots of people at the school remember him well and have lots of nice things to say about him. It was soon after he died that I started to feel his presence in a way, from Heaven. I did not much feel anything when he was still alive. But now it is as if he wants to help to help me and I do seem to understand Egyptian history a lot better now. So it is like I am getting some help from him.
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