Transgender Activists Hold Irreverent Funeral for Atheist Prostitute at St. Patrick’s Cathedral

[Vambram]

https://www.dailysignal.com/2024/02...ral-atheist-prostitute-st-patricks-cathedral/

The Archdiocese of New York did not immediately respond to a request for comment from The Daily Signal as to why St. Patrick’s Cathedral hosted the funeral, “an event with no likely precedent in Catholic history,” as The New York Times described it. The cathedral referred The Daily Signal to the archdiocese.
After publication, the archdiocese released a statement condemning the funeral and announcing priests had performed a Mass of Reparation.
“That St. Patrick’s Cathedral would host the funeral for a high-profile transgender activist who was well known for her advocacy on behalf of sex workers, transgender people, and people living with HIV might come as a surprise to some,” The New York Times reported. The funeral appears to have been widely attended by media from top U.S. publications.
One of the organizers of the funeral said that St. Patrick’s Cathedral was not told that Gentili identified as a transgender woman. Gentili is also revered by those who identify as LGBTQ as a “transgender icon” and advocate.
“I kind of kept it under wraps,” organizer Ceyenne Doroshow, a man who identifies as a woman, told the Times, explaining that St. Patrick’s Cathedral is “an icon, just like her.”
The Rev. Fr. Edward Dougherty led the service, according to Time magazine, telling the funeral attendees: “Cecilia died with Christ.”

 

[Whyayeman]

It seems that a Catholic had a Catholic funeral. Wow.

Whatever next?

 

[eleos1954]

https://www.dailysignal.com/2024/02...ral-atheist-prostitute-st-patricks-cathedral/

The Archdiocese of New York did not immediately respond to a request for comment from The Daily Signal as to why St. Patrick’s Cathedral hosted the funeral, “an event with no likely precedent in Catholic history,” as The New York Times described it. The cathedral referred The Daily Signal to the archdiocese.
After publication, the archdiocese released a statement condemning the funeral and announcing priests had performed a Mass of Reparation.
“That St. Patrick’s Cathedral would host the funeral for a high-profile transgender activist who was well known for her advocacy on behalf of sex workers, transgender people, and people living with HIV might come as a surprise to some,” The New York Times reported. The funeral appears to have been widely attended by media from top U.S. publications.
One of the organizers of the funeral said that St. Patrick’s Cathedral was not told that Gentili identified as a transgender woman. Gentili is also revered by those who identify as LGBTQ as a “transgender icon” and advocate.
“I kind of kept it under wraps,” organizer Ceyenne Doroshow, a man who identifies as a woman, told the Times, explaining that St. Patrick’s Cathedral is “an icon, just like her.”
The Rev. Fr. Edward Dougherty led the service, according to Time magazine, telling the funeral attendees: “Cecilia died with Christ.”

Funerals are meaningless to Jesus ... it's something we humans do .... after a person has passed his/her eternal fate is sealed and none of us know what that is ... salvation is completely up to Jesus and only known by Him who is or isn't.

 

[Chrystal-J]

The nonsense that went on at that funeral was a slap in the face to any church.

 

[Belk]

Apparently transgenders and atheists should not be allowed to have funerals.

 

[RileyG]

It seems that a Catholic had a Catholic funeral. Wow.

Whatever next?

They weren’t in good standing and they essentially lied about themselves.

 

[RileyG]

Apparently transgenders and atheists should not be allowed to have funerals.

It was in a Catholic Church for a non practicing Catholic who rejected church teaching. Not ok.

 

[RileyG]

Funerals are meaningless to Jesus ... it's something we humans do .... after a person has passed his/her eternal fate is sealed and none of us know what that is ... salvation is completely up to Jesus and only known by Him who is or isn't.

Why? Certainly Jewish people of his time had funerals and prayers for the dead. Not arguing here.

 

[Belk]

It was in a Catholic Church for a non practicing Catholic who rejected church teaching. Not ok.

Not OK according to whom? Isn't that determination up to the church?

 

[Chrystal-J]

Not OK according to whom? Isn't that determination up to the church?

When someone shows up in the thong...yeah, it can be a problem with the Church. plus: The funeral of a renowned transgender activist in a New York cathedral elicited a denunciation of the event by a senior church official, who called the mass a scandal within one of the preeminent houses of worship in U.S. Catholicism. NY Archdiocese denounces transgender activist's funeral, holds Mass of Reparation

 

[Belk]

When someone shows up in the thong...yeah, it can be a problem with the Church. plus: The funeral of a renowned transgender activist in a New York cathedral elicited a denunciation of the event by a senior church official, who called the mass a scandal within one of the preeminent houses of worship in U.S. Catholicism. NY Archdiocese denounces transgender activist's funeral, holds Mass of Reparation

Then it would seem a good opportunity for Catholic leadership to clarify what is or is not allowed in their churches.

 

[essentialsaltes]

They weren’t in good standing and they essentially lied about themselves.

She was dead; she didn't lie about anything.

St. Patrick's can't possibly just let any dead person have a funeral. I presume she, or her family, is in the parish register or whatever.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Sounds like the organizer(s) purposely kept some details under wraps and may have specifically wanted to use the high profile church to "prove a point" or perhaps troll them a bit? (since that church was the target of LGBT protests in the past)

“I kind of kept it under wraps,” organizer Ceyenne Doroshow told the Times, explaining that St. Patrick’s Cathedral is “an icon, just like her.”

Seems like this isn't the kind of approach that builds any bridges.

Leaving out certain pieces of information (specifically ones pertaining to activism measures that directly contradict the values of the proposed hosting venue, like advocacy for sex work) to secure the venue, only then to show up the day of (with a bunch of people wearing thongs and dressed in drag, and setting up rainbow flags around the church) at which point some of the clergy probably realized what they had unwittingly signed up to host, again, doesn't seem like a way to build bridges or earn trust.


Hypothetical here...let's look at it through a different lens.

If there were a right-wing activist that had previously established "heat" with a Muslim place of worship (and even protested against them in the past), and that activist's friend arranged for the mosque to host an event to honor them (while keeping certain pertinent pieces of info from the Imam in order to secure the venue), and then the day of, a bunch of people show up wearing Muhammed shirts and eating bacon in the mosque, I think people would look at it a little differently and wouldn't be so dismissive about why some people were a little upset by it.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Apparently transgenders and atheists should not be allowed to have funerals.

I don't think it's so much that, as it is that the notion that an organization being basically tricked into giving an honorary ceremony for someone who labelled them an ideological enemy, perhaps doesn't sit well with people.


If some people tricked PETA into hosting an award ceremony for Ted Nugent, and PETA leadership got upset about it once they realized what happened...

Would your response be a dismissive "Apparently people who hunt and eat meat shouldn't be allowed to win awards"... or would it be obvious that there's a little more to it than that?

 

[RileyG]

She was dead; she didn't lie about anything.

St. Patrick's can't possibly just let any dead person have a funeral. I presume she, or her family, is in the parish register or whatever.

He.

 

[RileyG]

Not OK according to whom? Isn't that determination up to the church?

It’s in the catechism

 

[Belk]

It’s in the catechism

The catechism says "No funerals for trans people"?

 

[RileyG]

The catechism says "No funerals for trans people"?

No. No funerals for those who apostatized. Essentially, he only wanted the funeral because the Cathedral was an icon. Not because of his faith.

 

[Belk]

No. No funerals for those who apostatized. Essentially, he only wanted the funeral because the Cathedral was an icon. Not because of his faith.

Ah! So funerals in the Catholic church should only be for those of the Catholic faith? See, that is entirely reasonable and even handed. Perhaps that should of been the lead off instead of "TRANS!".

 

[Whyayeman]

At this point something authoritative from the Bible might be useful. My own knowledge of the Bible isn't helping.