Indeed I do, and that's not what it says. If you make a claim about what the Bible says, then you should be able to quote it.
I see. You don't provide any quotes it does. Since you have access and are or seem to be a student of the law (OT), why is it you need a quote from me and don't provide one contrary to my claim?
Moses says very clearly the covenant law was given to Israel only in Deut 5. This covenant is also quoted therein. The quote is from the stone tablets according to Deut 4:13. Ex 31:13, 17 specifically says the 4th is a sign of that covenant. There's no mention anywhere this covenant was given to the people of Canaan or Egypt from which they were delivered. No mention of the people of Ur included either. Jeremiah a prophet of Israel said there will be a new covenant. The word new here means not in prior existence. It doesn't mean renew as self defined in the same sentence of 31:31-33. Then there's no mention of the 4th commandment in any list of commandments found in the NT. There's not any mention of the sabbath in any list of sins either. Kinda strange that it's said to be a requirement in the NT or of its believers.
Romans 2:6-8 He will render to each one according to his works: 7 to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; 8 but for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury.
So what works are you going to tell God you did come that fateful day? I know what God will say because of Scripture even from the OT. Your righteousness will be called filthy rags and cast into the fire. There's only one way to get through those pearly gates.
JN 10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you,
He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.
4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.
6 This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them.
7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.
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All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.
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I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
Jn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life:
no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
The bolded have specific meaning and are the words of Jesus.
These verses are fully in agreement with Moses and in favor of those doing good works in obedience to the Mosaic Law and are against those who do not obey it. In Romans 2:13, only the doers of the Law will be justified. In Romans 2:26, the way to tell that a Gentile has a circumcised heart is by observing their obedience to the Law, which is the same way to tell for a Jew (Deuteronomy 10:12-16, 30:6)
You forgot the words of Ps 14:3 and Rom 3:23. They give you a headache. Neither will allow for your explanation. There are no doers of the law. My Father made sure there would be none. That is what drives us to Jesus. Well some of us. Jesus nor the Holy Spirit enables any one to be a doer of the law. None of our works even the goods works God created us to do have anything to bring about our salvation. One of your buddies references Eph 2:8 and never verse 9 part of the sentence. I think it's because they believe works can cause salvation.
God's Law refers to the Law that God has given, which everyone is under because God is sovereign, and I listed some examples where Gentiles were under God's Law and were obligated to obey it.
Not if you reference Gen 26:5 or refer to Adam subject to the law issued to Israel only. Only Israeli are subject to the famous 10 per Moses as I've shown above.
You are so focused on whom the Law was given to that you've lost sight of whom it was given by. There are many verses that describe the Mosaic Law as being instructions for how to walk in God's ways, such as Deuteronomy 10:12-13, Isaiah 2:2-3, Joshua 22:5, Psalm 103:7, and many others, so the Law was not given as instructions for how to live as a Jew, but as instructions for how to express God's character traits, such as holiness, righteousness, goodness, justice, mercy, faithfulness, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness, and self-control. Jesus expressed these character traits through his actions and what that looked like was complete obedience to the Mosaic Law, so that is what it should look like when he is living in us. Our sanctification is about being made to be more like Christ, to have and to express the same character traits, so there is no sense in Gentiles wanting to be made like him while wanting nothing to do with what he was like.
Incorrect. Everything you referenced is said to Israel only. As such it applies to Israel only. There's not a shred of evidence the law was given to anyone else even in Romans. Your statements are the result of bad indoctrination,
not Scripture.
So while the Law was given to Israel, it was never intended only for Israel, but rather it was given to Israel in part so that they would be equipped to be a light to the nations and bless them through teaching them to repent from theirs sins and how to walk in God's ways in obedience to His Law (Isaiah 2:2-3, 49:6). In Deuteronomy 4:5-8, the intended reaction from the nations of seeing Israel's obedience to God's Law was to marvel and how great and wise God is. In other words, the Law was intention to be used as a tool to evangelize the nations and draw them into a covenant relationship with God. There is no sense in a Gentile wanting to become a follower of God while refusing to follow the instructions that He gave for how to follow Him.
Ah yes fear was struck in the hearts of the local nations of the middle east because of God and Israel. Read about that in Joshua. I disagree that Israel was to spread the law to other nations as you seem to think with Isa 49:6. I think this is a direct reference to Jesus the light of the world. JN 8:12, 12:36
Indeed, there are many examples of God's laws being given throughout Genesis prior to when they were given. Sin was in the world before the Law was given (Romans 5:13), so there was was nothing that became sinful when the Mosaic Covenant was made or that ceased being sinful after it has become obsolete, but rather the Law revealed what has always been and will always be sinful. So if under the New Covenant you believe that we should still refrain from what God has revealed to be sin, then you should believe that we should still obey His Law.
Not quite correct.
