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I'm more curious about those who are posting w/ Christian symbolsIm curious as to why so many non believers think they can debate christian philiosiphy and ethics for a christian when they are not one?
you do have a point thereArchivist you are under the impression that non believers are qualified to state what is and isnt ethical within christianity when they arent members of the church?
Yes, but by then you will have grown up, and will act so much like us that it would frighten you if you could see it now, or else you will be one of those pathetic old men who still try to act like teenagers for their whole lives.
So 2 things I'd point out here -
1) I think women should predominantly be in this field just as a precaution.
2) God can and does GIFT doctors to be able to perform their fields of service. This is a gift of God.
I did make a rational argument, you seem to be expecting that I have to answer it another way.That makes things a lot easier. By positing a gift from God for male gynecologists (something entirely without basis in Scripture), you've clearly made your position the one burdened with self-proof.
Either you must make a rational argument for this (unless there's something in Scripture about male gynecology that I've never heard of), or you discard it, or you discard your system. Or you ignore me.
wow
Tissue - do you have a crystal ball at 19 because when i was 19 i sure didnt know everything about everything and i still dont at the age i am now especially enough to tell other people why they think the way they do ...
God doesn't GIFT men to be celibate? He most certainly does. God gives us the gifts we have to attain our wealth/incomes.
God absolutely can gift a Dr. to be able not to have sexual stimulation as a gynocologist when they see the female biologically and medically not sexually.
On that I would agree - to a large degree lolI don't really one should be characterized simply by their age.
Older people can easily scoff younger people as being immature, ignorant, or without any life experience. Younger people can easily call older people senile, unchanging, or stuck in their ways. Age does not necessarily bring with it wisdom or maturity; I've met some 20-somethings with more wisdom, maturity, and life experience than some 50 and 60 year old I know.
IMO, no one should be condescending toward others because of their age.
I missed that, thanks for the infokarisma most of the condecsention in this thread came from the younger sect if you would care to read back through the thread in fact it was the 19 year old who even introduced the topic of age by calling another member old.
Tissue there is a difference between knowledge and wisdom. Wisdom does come with age even if that is a foreign concept to you. Whether or not you like it also - you wont understand that concept untill you get older.
Actually Angel is correct - wisdom does come with age - why do you think a President has to be at a certain age to even run for office?This is exactly the sort of condescension she is referring to.
What is meant by wisdom? Not some pat, Hallmark card definition, but a true, reasonable definition that fits into a comprehensible system of thought?
How is wisdom generated; through life up and against society, or in relationship with other people?
What are the particular values of this 'wisdom'?
It seems to me that wisdom, as most use the term, is simply the proper application, understanding, and valuation of one's experience/knowledge (using Socrates as a vague model). If this is the case, then I can immediately think of some examples of wise, older people, both in my church, and at my college, whom I highly respect and admire. I can also think of some older people who think they have this wisdom and do not.
If we are operating off wisdom as defined in Proverbs, then we're all on an equal playing field; after all, I only need to act exactly as Solomon says, and then I would be perfectly wise with respect to Scripture; certainly even a four-year-old could do this.
EDIT: I've long toyed with the idea of removing my age from my profile, so that others would not be so quick to judge who I am. After all, without it, perhaps some would think me some disgruntled old fogey who knows quite a lot about a little bit, instead of some rash 19-year-old who can't keep his mouth shut and respect his elders (as all old people are wiser than the young). Obviously it's a bit late now, but there are definitely merits.
It isn't JUST American lust.... but you're free to drink any koolaide.
I'd add once AGAIN that Paul taught MODESTY in apparel - not immodesty, not 1/2 nudity or whole nudity.
At the time Paul wrote his epistles, WAS TOPLESSNESS COMMON IN ISRAELI CULTURE? NO it was not. So obviously he is not including topless females in his guideline for dress and "proprietal" appearance
no it was not. It came centuries LATER.
the more I see, and the longer God gives me life... the more I see that statement is the absolute truth.Thats also the reason Jesus started ministry at age 30 and why rabbi's had to be 30 to minister and why the bible says wisdom comes with age as well.
Nothing truer than Gods word.
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