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Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by JM, Oct 21, 2019.

  1. JM

    JM pre·des·ti·nar·i·an Supporter

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    What are the top three reasons you hold to the eschatological position you have now? If you feel up to it please state your position (example Premil, Pretrib, Futurist, etc) This is open to all, to anyone willing to share their theological reflections, thanks in advance.

    Yours in the Lord,

    jm
     
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  2. Jonaitis

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    Amillennialism - although I am still learning and somewhat lean toward Postmillennialism.

    It is actually found on the pages of Holy Writ. It is simple, harmonizes with the rest of biblical history and is compatible with covenant theology. I suppose that was more than three.
     
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  3. Dave L

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    All Millennial theories are false based on Jesus teaching his kingdom is not of this world. It comes WITHOUT observation. One must be born again to see it. And flesh and blood cannot inherit it. He also said it already arrived and suffered violence since John the Baptist began preaching it.
     
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  4. Tree of Life

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    Amil

    1. It coheres with what all of Scripture says about the final days (in which we currently live).
    2. It fits with the figurative language of Revelation.
    3. Premil and postmil suffer from fatal problems.
     
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  5. Tree of Life

    Tree of Life Hide The Pain

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    ^This theory^ is known as amillennial.
     
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  6. Dave L

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    = no millennium = all millennial theories are false.
     
  7. SeventyOne

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    Pre-trib, because both Isaiah 26 and Revelation 12 give us a glimpse at the rapture, one prior to God's wrath on the whole earth, and the other prior to Satan's wrath on Israel.
     
  8. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    I simply believe what the Father in heaven reveals in His Word, by and through Revelation and of course Yahushua Hamashiach, living and walking in union with the Father and with the Son Daily as written throughout the New Testament of the Ekklesia (called out ones, particularly in assembly of Ekklesia, but not ruling out , possibly, individuals in various places who are born again by the will of the Father in heaven) ....

    The various "views" of (so-called) eschatology don't impress me nor sway me one way or another.
    If something is in harmony with all Yahuweh's Word (Scripture), as the Heavenely Father Reveals, then good. It is truth.
    If not, it is not accepted.
     
  9. Dave L

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    The NT does not mention a pre-trib rapture. We need to interpret the OT from the NT and not the other way around.
     
  10. SeventyOne

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    It is what I've stated and I won't be arguing with you about it.
     
  11. Dave L

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    God is not the author of confusion.
    Selah.
     
  13. SeventyOne

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    If you look at post 3 on that thread, you'll see that I've already considered it. There is no such thing as a rapture 'top dog'.
     
  14. Hank77

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    'a' in amil. literally means 'no' in the Greek.
     
  15. Dave L

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    It is not a historic doctrine. But came about in the 1800s. The top dogs are those who spent considerable time developing the error.
     
  16. Dave L

    Dave L Well-Known Member Supporter

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    But truth doesn't confuse those who are born gain.
     
  17. Hank77

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    I agree, it's men/women who get confused.
     
  18. Hank77

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    Not all born again people agree, especially about eschatology and it's not a salvation criteria.
     
  19. Dave L

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    But the born again can see the kingdom according to Jesus.
     
  20. keras

    keras Writer of Bible prophecy studies.

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    I am a futurist, I believe we Christians have an amazing future! We must stand firm in our faith and trust the Lord for our protection during the fiery trial ahead. 1 Peter 4:12
    What WILL happen:

    The enemies of the Lord gather - Micah 4:11-12, Ezekiel 36:2

    They conspire to attack Israel - Psalms 83:1-8, Isaiah 21:2

    They prepare their weapons - Psalms 7:12, Ezekiel 7:14 [as is the situation right NOW]


    At the moment of attack, God will use His Creation: the sun to send fire - Deuteronomy 32:22 & 34-43, Isaiah 30:26 & 30, Psalms 11:4-6, Isaiah 66:15-17, 2 Peter 3:7, Amos 1:1-15 & 2:1-5, Psalms 50:1-3, Zephaniah 3:8, Revelation 6:12-17

    The sun will explode with an extremely bright flash and the moon will reflect bright red - Isaiah 30:26, Joel 2:31, Acts 2:20, Habakkuk 3:4-5

    The Lord will make their weapons recoil upon themselves, the Electro-Magnetic Pulse hit will cause them to explode - Psalms 7:13-16, Joel 3:4, Obadiah 15

    Then the sun, moon and stars will be obscured by the approaching Coronal Mass Ejection - Psalms 18:11-12, Isaiah 13:9-13, Ezekiel 32:7-8, Amos 8:9

    A huge superhot mass of hydrogen plasma approaches the earthJoel 1:15-20, Malachi 4:1, Zephaniah 1:14-18

    Everyone on earth will be shocked and terrified - Jeremiah 6:24-26, Ezekiel 21:5-7a, Isaiah 13:6-8, Revelation 6:15-17

    The atmosphere will be pushed asideRevelation 6:14, 2 Peter 3:10, Isaiah 34:4

    The whole earth will be enveloped by fire - Isaiah 66:15, Zephaniah 3:8, 2 Peter 3:7

    Only a remnant will survive in the Holy Land - Zechariah 13:8-9, Isaiah 6:11-13

    He will judge the nations, the wicked will die - Isaiah 63:1-6, Habakkuk 3:12, Revelation 14 18-20, Isaiah 66:17, Isaiah 29:20-21, Hebrews 10:27

    His enemies will become ashes - Malachi 4:3, Ezekiel 30:1-5, Jeremiah 49:2, Matthew 3:12b

    Millions will die around the world - Psalms 97:3-5, Jeremiah 25:33, Isaiah 13:12

    The Lord will protect those who call to Him - Isaiah 43:2, Joel 2:32, Acts 2:21

    But most people will take shelter until it passes. Isaiah 2:19, Revelation 6:15

    The survivors will form a One World Govt. - Daniel 7:23-24, Revelation 17:12

    The Holy Land will be regenerated - Ezekiel 36:8, Joel 2:21-24, Isaiah 35:1-10, Amos 9:13-15, Jeremiah 33:12-14

    And the Lord's faithful Christian people will gather there. - Psalms 107, Isaiah 35:1-10, Ezekiel 34:11-16, Isaiah 66:18b-21, Revelation 7:9-14

    They will become the new nation of Beulah - Isaiah 62:1-5, Ezekiel 36:3-38, Jer. 31

    They will build a new TempleZechariah 6:15, Haggai 2:9, Ezekiel 40 to 48

    The attack by a Northern army will be won by the LordEzekiel 38:22, Joel 2:20

    The leaders of Beulah will sign a 7 year peace treaty with the leader of the O.W.G. Daniel 9:27, Isaiah 28:15

    At the mid point he will break it and conquer Beulah -Daniel 9:27, Zechariah 14:1-2

    This commences the 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls of the Great Tribulation - Rev 8:2-

    Those who kept their faith in God will be taken to a safe place on earth. Daniel 11:32b, Revelation 12:14

    3.5 years later, Jesus will Return for His Millennial reign - Revelation 19:11-21, Matthew 24:30-31, Zechariah 14:3-4

    The Lord has told us His plans and He will not relent or change them - Jeremiah 4:28

    There are plenty more prophesies and details to prove this scenario.
    Believe it or not; up to everyone to decide! Psalms 19:11-12, Isaiah 48:6
     
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