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Top Ten Problems with Darwinian Evolution

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Justatruthseeker said:
Evolutionists are simply confused as to what species are, so it is no wonder they are confused when it comes to kinds. You still haven't solved your own classification problems, let me know when you do.


Confused??? You think a spider is an insect, and you tell us WE are confused??? That is hilarious!! ^_^ ^_^
BUT THE SOLAR SYSTEM IS 99.8% PLASMA. YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID!
 
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I'm sure that assessment is based on your years and years of studying them.


And I am sure yours is based upon the fact that they are all similar, all share the same genetic code? Yet you classify them as different species???

On what basis? Some spin different webs? Some live in the ground instead of in trees? Oh yah, that's real scientific.

Why don't you classify Chinese people as a different species than Blacks? You do that with the same kind of cats and dogs??? Even though we have personally witnessed the breeding of all dogs from the wolf stock.

Evolutionists still can't make up their minds what species are.
 
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About as similar as bears and bats, yes.

Sounds like you are not very familiar with the range of variation among spiders.


Funny how bears and bats do not even look similar, yet spiders do. As do cats, dogs, whales, shark, etc, etc, etc. It is evolutionists that say that bear and bat, shark and spider, all came from the same common ancestor, not me. I'm not that confused about naming things to make that illogical leap.

I am not the one that says that a German Shepard which according to evolutionists evolved from a wolf is a seperate species. I know they came from wolves and are nothing more than the same canine kind in different forms.

As I said, it is evolutionists that have a species problem, not creationists.

Species problem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Cut some of those precious bones up.

http://www.ted.com/talks/jack_horner_shape_shifting_dinosaurs.html
 
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And I am sure yours is based upon the fact that they are all similar, all share the same genetic code? Yet you classify them as different species???

On what basis? Some spin different webs? Some live in the ground instead of in trees? Oh yah, that's real scientific.

Why don't you classify Chinese people as a different species than Blacks? You do that with the same kind of cats and dogs??? Even though we have personally witnessed the breeding of all dogs from the wolf stock.

Evolutionists still can't make up their minds what species are.

Good observations! I think they like to confuse things with their name game.

I found this as well:

As of 2008, at least 43,678 spider species,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider#cite_note-2 and 109 families have been recorded by taxonomists;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider#cite_note-WSC-3 however, there has been confusion within the scientific community as to how all these families should be classified, as evidenced by the over 20 different classifications that have been proposed since 1900.
 
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Good observations! I think they like to confuse things with their name game.

Says the person playing name games with kinds.

I found this as well:

As of 2008, at least 43,678 spider species, and 109 families have been recorded by taxonomists; however, there has been confusion within the scientific community as to how all these families should be classified, as evidenced by the over 20 different classifications that have been proposed since 1900.

We have been saying from the very beginning that all classifications above the level of species are arbitrary. There is no reason why humans and apes should be in separate generas, or in the same one. Everything from Genus upwards is a human contrivance.
 
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Funny how bears and bats do not even look similar,

Since when? Last I checked, they are put in the mammal kind because they are similar.

It is evolutionists that say that bear and bat, shark and spider, all came from the same common ancestor, not me.

That's what their shared features indicate.

I'm not that confused about naming things to make that illogical leap.

There is as much similarity between bats and bears as there are between two divergent spider species.

I am not the one that says that a German Shepard which according to evolutionists evolved from a wolf is a seperate species.

Then show me evidence of free gene flow between German Shepards and wolf populations. Last I checked, gene flow is extremely limited between those populations which indicates that they are separate species.

I know they came from wolves and are nothing more than the same canine kind in different forms.

And humans are a different form of ape, primate, mammal, and vertebrate.

As I said, it is evolutionists that have a species problem, not creationists.

We have told you over and over that the blurry lines between species is evidence for evolution, so why is this a problem?
 
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Says the person playing name games with kinds.



We have been saying from the very beginning that all classifications above the level of species are arbitrary. There is no reason why humans and apes should be in separate generas, or in the same one. Everything from Genus upwards is a human contrivance.

But at least we can provide a definition for all those categories, arbitrary and contrived as it may be. If only they could do the same for 'kind'...
 
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But at least we can provide a definition for all those categories, arbitrary and contrived as it may be. If only they could do the same for 'kind'...

Ya ... ain't that a shame?

When it comes to worldly things, you guys can explain it -- right down to twisted DNA.

But when it comes to Heavenly things, it's a different story, isn't it?
 
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We also can't explain how the Easter Bunny hides eggs, how Santa's reindeer fly, or how the Tooth Fairy makes all that money to put under pillows.

What a shame.

You'd better hope no one asks you to then.

Especially if you have children, and you've been telling them that for years.
 
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What a shame.

You'd better hope no one asks you to then.

Especially if you have children, and you've been telling them that for years.

Reminds me of the questions I used to ask in Sunday school. My teachers weren't able to answer those either.
 
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Funny how bears and bats do not even look similar, yet spiders do.

Bears, bats, cats, dogs and whales all do look similar. They all have mammalian characteristics, tetrapod characteristics (or remnants of them in the case of whales), and vertebrate characteristics. Compared to what they have in common, the differences are relatively superficial.

Spiders look similar in that they all have arachnid characteristics (e.g. eight legs on a two-segment body) and chelicerate characteristics and arthropod characteristics, but within that framework there is as much difference among them as in mammals. You just haven't seen as many different kinds of spiders as you have of mammals. Probably because you have never been curious enough to look for them--even pictures of them.
 
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Reminds me of the questions I used to ask in Sunday school. My teachers weren't able to answer those either.
Oh, I'm sure they weren't.

What did you ask them? where Jesus got His y-chromosome?
 
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Reminds me of the questions I used to ask in Sunday school. My teachers weren't able to answer those either.

I had a lengthy discussion with my sunday school teacher once about snakes. He was saying how the devil was a snake and we should kill all snakes. I was asking specifically what kind of snake, and why a snake and not any other animal. He said God "cursed" the snakes to live close to the ground, I told him there was nothing wrong with living close to the ground and there was a lot of food there, so I didn't really see it as a curse. He made me finish my inquiry with something like "God works in mysterious ways". I was 9. This was the moment when I started questioning the whole thing.
 
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