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In a global flood, topsoil and mountain sides would be scoured clean, into the seas
~no longer to see the air or the light
This is not consistent with the creationist hypothesis
that all the sedimentary layers we see were laid down by the flood.
God could write and talk when Adam was here.
Grains or pollens etc found are only dated using beliefs.
Your choice is only in what to belive. I think that is clear.
. . .If you tell me Adam had a chariot, please forgive me my chuckling (at the thought). . .
dave
That is not our model. That seems more to me like a decades old opinion of some.This is not consistent with the creationist hypothesis that all the sedimentary layers we see were laid down by the flood.
You have no peers that know the nature of the past. Be honest.Oh yes, irrefutably....
on the other hand, while there is no doubt Adam could speak (also)
Nowhere does the bible mention, that he could also write, at-all (?)
Missing evidence ?
What you believe, may not be ~what others believe (Is 'clear')
unfortunately, you, cannot prove that you are ALWAYS RIGHT
Whereas, eminent and specialist minds have also given their considered opinion
based-upon, scientific examinations and have written these 'facts' down in peer-evaluated white-papers
ergo: 'considered true'
dave
That is not our model. That seems more to me like a decades old opinion of some.
To which you replied:davedajobauk said:Oh yes, irrefutably.... on the other hand, while there is no doubt Adam could speak (also)
Nowhere does the bible mention, that he could also write, at-all (?)
Missing evidence ?
What you believe, may not be ~what others believe (Is 'clear')
unfortunately,
you, cannot prove that you are ALWAYS RIGHT
Whereas, eminent and specialist minds have also given their considered opinion based-upon,
scientific examinations and have written these 'facts' down in peer-evaluated white-papers
ergo: 'considered true'
Dad said:You have no peers that know the nature of the past. Be honest.
Dad said:Adam may not have needed to write.
Personally, I suspect that later post flood post Babel man invented writing, pics at first.
Dad said:God could write and talk when Adam was here.
Grains or pollens etc found are only dated using beliefs.
Your choice is only in what to belive. I think that is clear.
Adam was created having maturity, but without a history.Yes, I suppose pictograms (pictographs) would surely have come 'first'
What's this then?Oh for sure.... The FIRST mention of 'writing' in the bible, was surely the mention of "SCRIBES"
What's this then?
Genesis 5:1a This is the book of the generations of Adam.
You're entitled to your opinion, but I respectfully disagree.The reduction to writing of what had been oral tradition for a long, long time.
Creationists have many, many models that are inconsistent with each other. Without reality to constrain them, their imagination naturally does that.
Oh for sure.... The FIRST mention of 'writing' in the bible, was surely the mention of "SCRIBES"
and the second mention, was of the Stone Tablets that God gave to Moses
Whereupon it may be assumed 'that they could be read'
__
Exodus 31:18 (NIV)
When the LORD finished speaking to Moses on Mount Sinai,
he gave him the two tablets of the covenant law,
the tablets of stone inscribed by the finger of God.__
Re: grains and pollens
are they not assessed (for age) by credible testing means ? (genetically, also)
Oh yes, we are truly given choice
and, to choose; as to whether the alleged evidence, is plausible /credible or not
Many, over the centuries, have spent their whole careers (adult life)
'honing' their experience and skills with God-given talents
and committed their knowledge (beliefs) to paper
I sure wish you had been able to spread some light upon 'Ezekiels Wheels' for me
I had sought your opinion / knowledge, of them
dave
If men needed to write before the tower of Babel, then Adam could write. Not so much 'could' but would have had some need to. It seems to me that when you cannot talk to hardly anyone outside your little tent village or whatever, that writing would start to be needed. Pics at first, just to communicate. Writing is just a form of communication, after all.
The throne of God and wheels in Ezekiel seem to be of a heavenly nature, so naturally would be subject to many interpretations and opinions. It seems to me that God hovered over the earth in creation week. He probably hovered over the birth of Christ (star of Bethlehem) and there is a place where it may talk of God's usual orbit while on such visits...the 'circle' of the earth!
Since similar if not identical visions were had elsewhere in Scripture to that of Ezekiel, I assume it would also involve more than space travel, but through time also.
Adam was created having maturity, but without a history.
I'm sure that maturity would include the ability to read and write.
He got it from God.Where did he learn it?
From God.
Just like Paul did the Gospel.
Galatians 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
Galatians 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
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