tolerance vs acceptance

Arthur Dietrich

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Blemonds said:
What I would do is irrelevant. It's what I have to the right to do that is relevant. If I don't want somebody working for me for whatever reason, I should be the one to make the decision. Period. For whatever reason

I'm just trying to understand you.

Whatever reason? So if you came in for an interview and I told you that, despite your qualifications and impressive resume, I won't hire you because you are wearing a green tie and I hate the colour green you would be OK with that?

Do you have reasons? Or is it a 'just because you can' thing?



P.S. OP?...uh...what OP? *shifty eyes*
 
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Blemonds said:
What I would do is irrelevant. It's what I have to the right to do that is relevant. If I don't want somebody working for me for whatever reason, I should be the one to make the decision. Period. For whatever reason
No, you don't. It's not in society's best interest that we give absolute power to employers, and therefore we don't.
 
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Arthur Dietrich said:
I'm just trying to understand you.

Whatever reason? So if you came in for an interview and I told you that, despite your qualifications and impressive resume, I won't hire you because you are wearing a green tie and I hate the colour green you would be OK with that?

Do you have reasons? Or is it a 'just because you can' thing?



P.S. OP?...uh...what OP? *shifty eyes*
It's happened to me many times, not for the green tie however. That's life
 
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Um Blemonds we all can read. I read it before any tweaking. You misunderstood him and ran with that misunderstanding. Reading comprehension is in question now. I am not sure myself about the nuts or even troll accusations, but please read before responding to posts, because you are making a fool of yourself.

Um can we get back to the OP, before the Mod comes and closes this thread? Please?
As I said, I quoted him verbatim. I'm unable to comprehend his misstatements and I have given him ample opprtunity to admit it was not his intent, but he prefers to insult my reading comprehension skills. You can easily find the post yourself and if you think your comprehension is so much better than mine. quote the post and clarify it.
 
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notto said:
The consitution does nothing to guarantee your rights in hiring or firing or as a business owner.

Discrimination Rules for Hiring Employees



Many state and local laws also prohibit discrimination. These laws often include smaller employers (more often those with five or more employees, but you should double-check to make sure), and they often prohibit additional types of discrimination, including discrimination on the basis of marriage, sexual orientation and weight. To learn about the anti-discrimination laws in your state, contact your state labor department or your state small business bureau.
and NOT ALL STATES HAVE THIS in their laws...
 
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Blemonds said:
Spoken like a good Socialist.
Too bad, because the foundations of all good governments is to do what is in the best interests of society as a whole. Actually many of the employment rules were hammered out by unions, who are a distinct entity from the government, and represent perhaps some of the best examples of democracy in action.
 
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Blemonds said:
As I said, I quoted him verbatim. I'm unable to comprehend his misstatements and I have given him ample opprtunity to admit it was not his intent, but he prefers to insult my reading comprehension skills. You can easily find the post yourself and if you think your comprehension is so much better than mine. quote the post and clarify it.
How many times can I say this. I may have not been 100% explicitly clear in the post that took you off track, but the meaning was clear enough. When you talk about suing in a conservation about discrimination law suit it's abundantly clear what is being said. Rather than construct a valid argument you are choosing to argue over symantics.

You are just peeved because you know you read things wrong and are being too stuborn to admit it.
 
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ThePhoenix said:
Too bad, because the foundations of all good governments is to do what is in the best interests of society as a whole.
And who, exactly is to judge society's best interests, in your book?

When any government overrides the wishes of the majority of its citizens to appease a squeaky minority asking for "rights" that overreach everyone elses' (including free speech and religion), thats tyrannically un-democratic... not to mention self righteous and pretentious of the activists (including traitorous judges) who've appointed themselves personal improvers of society based upon their definitions of morality (and profound lack thereof).
 
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Brother Christman said:
And who, exactly is to judge society's best interests, in your book?

When any government overrides the wishes of the majority of its citizens to appease a squeaky minority asking for "rights" that overreach everyone elses' (including free speech and religion), thats tyrannically un-democratic... not to mention self righteous and pretentious of the activists (including traitorous judges) who've appointed themselves personal improvers of society based upon their definitions of morality (and profound lack thereof).
Ok, let's apply that scenario to oh, say, the civil right's movement.

The majority of citizens, in some areas, would have kept black people oppressed and unable to find employment in decent jobs. They are just a lowly minority afterall, what is fair to them doesn't matter, it's all about what will make the majority feel warm and fuzzy. They could always move to another town where black people aren't oppressed.

Is it in societies best interest to discriminate against a minority when the trait that makes them a minority is of no relevance?
 
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