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To tithe, or not to tithe. That is the question!

Should Christians tithe?

  • Yes, we should give 10%.

  • No, we should give whatever the Lord Places upon our hearts.

  • No, we should not give anything to the church.

  • Other (please explain)


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I still think the 10% is the minimum and one is not giving to God, but paying what one owes God already.

Can you show me Scriptural support for this belief? Even under the Old Covenant, the tithe was only to be taken from livestock and crops. money was never tithed.

So, where in the Bible does God tell Christians that we owe him 10% of our income?
 
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Thanks for responding, Frogster, saved me the effort. Tithers have no case Scripturally. It only survives because pastors are afraid to teach the truth lest they have less money.

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yeah, and they would have to get a job like Paul did, for the most part, as you know.
 
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ever notice that tithe proponents never mention giving to the poor?


Gal 2:10 Only, they asked us to remember the poor, the very thing I was eager to do.

Paul, Barabas, Titus, Timothy, Priscilla and Aquila, a Jewish prophet named Silas all WORKED, when they were with Paul, not to burden the church...

Ask pastors to teach on that one day..:D
 
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Take the following True or False quiz to see how much your really understand about tithing. We predict that many of you will be surprised. Record your answers.
1. The Lord Jesus Christ would have tithed. True or False?

2. Simon Peter, originally a fisherman, would have tithed of the fish that he caught. True or False?

3. Everyone in the Old Testament seeking to obey the Law of Moses would have tithed. True or False?

4. Abraham tithed to Melchizedek in the same way that believers tithe to the Lord Jesus Christ. True or False?

5. The Lord Jesus Christ taught His disciples that they should tithe. True or False?

6. There are many examples of people tithing of their incomes in the Bible. True or False?

7. The New Testament teaches that we should tithe to ministers in the same way that Jews tithed to the Priests. True or False?

8. The Bible teaches that God’s standard for giving is ten-percent. True or False?

9. The righteous poor tithed in the Old Testament. True or False?

10. Since everyone is held to the same standard, tithing is fair to everyone. True or False?

Bonus Question. The Bible teaches that everyone should give ten-percent of their ongoing income. True or False?

Here are the answers:

1. The Lord Jesus Christ would have tithed of His income. This one is false. The Lord Jesus Christ was a carpenter by profession and then after He became 30 years old He was a preacher and teacher. Neither of these professions was required by the Law of Moses to tithe anything.

2. Simon Peter, originally a fisherman, would have tithed of the fish that he caught. This one is false also. Fishermen were not required to tithe anything either. There were only two kinds of professions in ancient Israel that were required to tithe. Farmers and husbandmen (shepherds and cattle herders) were the only tithers in ancient Israel. They only tithed the food they produced.

3. Everyone in the Old Testament seeking to obey the Law of Moses would have tithed. It should be evident by now that this one is false also. There were many people with other professions who were not required by the Law to tithe. For instance, the apostle Paul being a tent-maker was not required to tithe. In fact, none of the Twelve apostles would have been tithers because none of them came from the required professions.

4. Abraham tithed to Melchizedek in the same way that believers tithe to the Lord Jesus Christ. This one is false also. Abraham’s tithe was very different than what the Church practices today. For instance, Abraham only tithed once. The Church tithes continually. Abraham tithed of the spoils of a war. The Church tithes of its income. Abraham had no increase because he gave the other 90% of the spoils of the war back to the original owner. The Church tithes of its increase. There is no commandment or any logic or indication in the New Testament that believers are to tithe anything to the Lord Jesus Christ. Believers are to give generously as God blesses them and whatever is in their heart according to Paul (2 Corinthians 9:7, 1 Corinthians 16:1-2).

5. The Lord Jesus Christ taught His disciples that they should tithe. False. Christ only makes three statements about tithing. None of these statements say that His disciples should tithe anything. Christ first statement, repeated in two Gospels, is spoken to the Pharisees not to His disciples. (Mattthew 23:23, Luke 11:42) In that statement, Christ says that the Pharisees should continue to tithe mint, dill and cummin. This is a tithe of food not money. He also says that this tithe of food is a part of the Law and says that it is not even an important part of the Law. His other statement is about a self-righteous Pharisee bragging that he tithes. Christ says that the other man who was not tithing who humbled himself was justified in the sight of God. The self-righteous tither was not justified in the sight of God. This is hardly an encouragement for Christ’s disciples to tithe money.

6. There are many examples of people tithing of their incomes in the Bible. False. In 4000 years of recorded biblical history there is not a single example of what the Church practices today in tithing money. There are two one-time acts of tithing recorded before the Law. Neither man, Abraham or Jacob, seems to think that they should continue this process beyond the one-time act. Neither man is tithing of their income since each is only involved in a one-time act. Abraham is tithing of the spoils of a war. Neither man seems to teach their children to tithe. All the other tithing recorded in the Bible is found in the Law of Moses. In the Law, money was never used to tithe only food. In fact, when someone wanted to use money rather than bring the produce to Jerusalem, God required a 20% penalty to be added. (Leviticus 27:30-31) In other words, God discouraged the tithing of money.

7. The New Testament teaches that we should tithe to ministers in the same way that Jews tithed to the Priests. False. The New Testament has nothing at all to say about this. This is extra-biblical logic that is not found in the New Testament. In fact, the Book of Hebrews makes it clear that believers are not of the Levitical order of priests. Believers are of a higher order, the order of Melchizedek.

8. The Bible teaches that God’s standard for giving is ten-percent. False. Neither the Old Testament nor the New Testament teaches this. This is extra-biblical logic again. First of all, the food tithe in the Old Testament was not ten-percent. It was actually more like 23% annually on average. There were three tithes in the Law of Moses. The first tithe was paid only by agrarian families three times yearly at the feasts to the Priests in Jerusalem. The second tithe was saved by the agrarian families to support these trips. It was called the festival tithe. It was for a family vacation. The third tithe was given every three years to the local storehouse, so it amounted to about 3% annually. This was the poor tithe collected for those in need. This is the tithe that Malachi wrote about. None of these tithes were money. They were only food. Those who earned their livings by other occupations did not pay a tithe of anything. However, they did give offerings required by the Law some of which were in silver, gold, bronze and copper coins. Nowhere does the New Testament change this legal obligation of tithing food for some agrarian Israelites in the Law to money tithing for all Christians. This transformation of the food tithe to a money tithe is done by teaching that our harvest is our income and bringing us under a spiritualized form of the Law of Moses.

9. The righteous poor tithed in the Old Testament. False. The poor had no harvest or flocks to tithe from. They were able to glean the corners of the field of those who were more prosperous.

10. Since everyone is held to the same standard, tithing is fair to everyone. False. Tithing is incredibly unfair. Ten-percent of the income of a poor person is a great burden, while ten-percent of the income of a rich person may be no burden at all. If a person only has a $1000 a month income, then $100 of that income will affect their lifestyle and may even impact their ability to take care of their children’s basic needs and pay their bills. If a person has a $10,000 a month income then giving $1,000 per month should have little affect on their lifestyle since they should have a good amount of disposable income beyond their basic needs. If a person has a $100,000 a month income, then $10,000 a month has no appreciable affect on their lifestyle at all. Some continue to teach tithing to poor persons by arguing that if the poor person will give ten-percent of their income then God will bless them. However, coming under a spiritualized form of the Law will hinder God’s blessing in finances. The poor should simply obey the Lord as He guides them in giving.

Bonus Question. The Bible teaches that everyone should give ten-percent of their ongoing income. False. The modern practice of tithing has five basic elements expressed as everyone gives 10% of ongoing income. How do Bible facts about tithing actually fit with this teaching? Let’s compare and contrast the modern teaching of tithing with the Bible.

Everyone gives 10% of ongoing income. Considering the “Everyone” element. The two events before the Law do not support the idea that everyone should pay tithe. Only Abraham and Jacob in each situation are paying tithe. Genesis doesn’t record anyone else tithing. Abraham and Jacob don’t seem to teach their children to tithe. One of Jacob’s children, Joseph, is a particularly righteous man. In the more than ten detailed chapters devoted to Joseph, we don’t discover him tithing either. Not everyone tithed in Genesis before the Law.
In the Law of Moses, not everyone was required to tithe or give firstfruits. Only those who were actually growing food or raising sheep or cattle were required by the Law to tithe the food or present firstfruits. People from other occupations were not required to tithe since they had no harvest or growth of flocks to tithe or to present firstfruits from. Not everyone tithed food who lived under the Law. No one under the Law tithed money at all.
Christ has only a few words to say about tithing. In those words, Christ does not say that everyone should tithe. He says that unbelieving Jews living under the Law should tithe food if they are growing it. He mentions three food plants. Christ is not addressing His disciples. He is addressing unbelieving Pharisees.
The apostle Paul does not teach that everyone is obligated to tithe or to even to give. He teaches that giving is completely voluntary. The first apostolic council in Acts Chapter 15 does not say that Gentile believers should tithe either. There is absolutely no evidence that any Gentile Christian in the First Century ever tithed anything. Here is what the Encyclopedia Americana says about the history of tithing: "It was not practiced in the early Christian church but gradually became common (in the Roman Catholic church in western Europe) by the 6th Century. The Council of Tours in 567 and the second Council of Macon in 585 advocated tithing. Made obligatory by civil law in the Carolingian empire in 765 and in England in the 10th Century... The Reformation did not abolish tithing and the practice was continued in the Roman Catholic church and in Protestant countries... (until it was) gradually replaced by other forms of taxation. The Roman Catholic church still prescribes tithes in countries where they are sanctioned by law, and some Protestant bodies consider tithes obligatory."The Encyclopedia Britannica points this out about tithing... "The eastern Orthodox churches never accepted the idea of tithes and Orthodox church members have never paid them."
Everyone gives 10% of ongoing income. Considering the “gives” element. The two events before the Law do seem like giving. They are both voluntary acts. God does not require either man, Abraham or Jacob, to give anything. While this does on the surface seem to support the tithing teaching, it actually contradicts some aspects of the Tithing Obligation teaching. While the proponents of tithing teach that tithing is giving, they also often teach that tithing is required, that a tithe must be paid. Of course, this is a contradiction in their teaching. Something can be only given if it is entirely voluntary. If it is required, then it is, in this case, a fee for spiritual services or a religious tax. If some teach that a believer comes under a curse if they do not tithe, then they are not teaching giving but teaching paying an obligated tithe. Of course, they are right in one sense because they are often spiritualizing the Law of Moses to teach tithing.
Tithing in the Law of Moses was never giving. It was much more like paying taxes. The Law of Moses required tithing by farmers and husbandmen. They would not have seen their tithing as giving. There was nothing voluntary in their paying tithe. They would have been in violation of the Law if they had not done it.
Again, Christ has very little to say about tithing. He did say that Jewish people living under the Law pay tithe. Christ does teach a great deal about finances and giving but never instructs His disciples to tithe money or anything else. He does not instruct them to receive tithes either.
Paul writes a great deal about finances and giving but never instructs anyone to tithe or to receive tithes. The first apostolic council in Acts Chapter 15 is silent on the subject of tithing and establishes that Gentiles are not to keep any aspects of the Law of Moses, even spiritualization of the Law. That would include tithing of anything.


Everyone gives 10% of ongoing income. Considering the “10%” element. The two events before the Law of Moses do seem to support the idea that ten percent of something should be given. The number ten is the same. However, the other four elements are significantly different. This makes tithing being practiced by the Church very different from what is happening in Genesis. The only similarity is the ten percent number.


Christ does validate the ten-percent number but only for Jews living under the Law of Moses. He tells the Pharisees that they should pay tithe, ten percent, of their produced food. He also tells them that paying ten-percent is not a weighty matter of the Law. In saying this, Christ does tell us that tithing is a matter of the Law.

The apostle Paul repeatedly warns believers about the curse of the Law. Gentile believers should not attempt to keep any aspects of the Law. Believers are not required to give ten-percent of food or anything else. The writings of the other apostles, James and Peter, are silent about Christians giving ten percent of food or anything else.

Everyone gives 10% of ongoing income. Considering the “ongoing” element. The two examples before the Law of Moses do not reveal the practice of on-going tithing. They both appear strongly to be one-time acts. In the case of Jacob, we don’t know exactly what he did but it does seem that he is promising to tithe once if God blesses him. Of course, this is exactly opposite of what the Church teaches. The Church teaches that that God will bless us if we tithe. Jacob says he will tithe if God blesses him. The Church’s practice of ongoing, repetitious tithing simply cannot be validated by two one-time acts. They are not similar to what the Church teaches about tithing.
The only place in the Bible where ongoing, repetitious tithing can be found is in the Law of Moses. Those who were farming or practicing husbandry in Israel had a lifetime obligation to tithe the food that they produced. This ongoing food tithe to support the Mosaic Levitical ministry is often borrowed from the Law and spiritualized to justify repetitious money tithing in support of Christian ministry. This justification is not found in the New Testament.
Christ’s statement about tithing reveals that the ongoing tithing of food is under the Law. Christ says nothing about His disciples practicing ongoing tithing of anything. While the writings of the apostles in the New Testament often speak of generous giving, they are silent about ongoing tithing of anything. The first apostolic council is also silent about ongoing tithing of anything but releases Gentile believers from any aspects of keeping the Law of Moses.
Everyone gives 10% of ongoing income. Considering the “income” element. Abraham tithes on the spoils of war, not his entire income. Abraham tithed the captured belongings of his defeated enemies. Additionally, Genesis reveals that Abraham didn’t even keep the ninety percent that was remaining. He returned those possessions to the King of Sodom. Abraham’s income, his possessions or any part of his own wealth wasn’t involved at all in his tithing. He had no increase to tithe on. In Jacob’s case, we don’t know exactly what he did since all Genesis records is his promise to God. In other words, there is no support in the events before the Law that Christians should give ten percent of their ongoing income.
Nearly everyone that teaches tithing resorts to using the Law and prophets living under the Law to teach it. Those that teach Christian tithing from the Law often neglect to reveal that only food produced was tithed on but never money. Only those who earned their livings by producing food tithed at all. Those Israelites who earned money by other means such as tent making, weaving, carpentry, money lending, fishing or many other occupations never tithed on their incomes since it was not commanded of them.
Christ does not change tithing food to tithing money. The writings of the apostles do not change tithing food to tithing money. The apostolic council releases the Gentile believers from any keeping of the Law. They certainly do not change tithing food to tithing money. The book of Hebrews does mention the Old Testament tithing of food but does not validate tithing money for believers today.
Finally, it should be obvious to the reader that this doctrine is pieced together from these various passages. Not a single passage in itself actually teaches what the Church practices today. Spiritualization of the Law is used to teach tithing. Reasoning that is not found in the Bible is used to justify Christians embracing a legalistic practice from the Old Testament. In more than 4000 years of recorded Biblical history, there is not a single recorded example of tithing that is similar to what the Church practices today. We recommend that every Christian renounce this unscriptural practice and reject any lingering fear, guilt or condemnation! God’s children have no debt to their Father to pay other than thanksgiving and praise. Their elder brother, the Lord Jesus Christ, has paid in full the debt. Christ will build His Church but only with the truth. He needs no help from a false doctrine that puts the Children of God under bondage to fear and the curse of the Law. The children are free!
 
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Mark 12:17 Then Jesus said to them, “Give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.”

Malachi 3:8(b)“In tithes and offerings. 9 You are under a curse—your whole nation—because you are robbing me. 10 Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the Lord Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it. 11 I will prevent pests from devouring your crops, and the vines in your fields will not drop their fruit before it is ripe,” says the Lord Almighty. 12 “Then all the nations will call you blessed, for yours will be a delightful land,” says the Lord Almighty.

I see nothing in the New Testament that invalidates that. The 2 scriptures together make it look to me that God is saying that the tithe belongs to Him, and then Jesus said that we are to give unto God what is Gods.

But I can't point to a specific commandment in the new testament to tithe, in spite of the implication of what Jesus said in Mark 12:17. So I would recommend that you examine the motives of your heart. If you genuinely feel that God is not telling you to tithe, then by all means follow your conviction. But don't let a lack of faith in God's ability to provide supernaturally interfere with God's ability to talk to you on this. What if he tells you to give 50% of your income to the church? Are you willing?
 
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Quoted with permission:

Take the following True or False quiz to see how much your really understand about tithing. We predict that many of you will be surprised. Record your answers.
1. The Lord Jesus Christ would have tithed. True or False?

2. Simon Peter, originally a fisherman, would have tithed of the fish that he caught. True or False?

3. Everyone in the Old Testament seeking to obey the Law of Moses would have tithed. True or False?

4. Abraham tithed to Melchizedek in the same way that believers tithe to the Lord Jesus Christ. True or False?

5. The Lord Jesus Christ taught His disciples that they should tithe. True or False?

6. There are many examples of people tithing of their incomes in the Bible. True or False?

7. The New Testament teaches that we should tithe to ministers in the same way that Jews tithed to the Priests. True or False?

8. The Bible teaches that God’s standard for giving is ten-percent. True or False?

9. The righteous poor tithed in the Old Testament. True or False?

10. Since everyone is held to the same standard, tithing is fair to everyone. True or False?

Bonus Question. The Bible teaches that everyone should give ten-percent of their ongoing income. True or False?

Here are the answers:

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great post, thanks!

Also the priests served on rotation from what i have heard, they did not live on it all thier lives every day, like some pastors and preachers do.
 
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Mark 12:17 Then Jesus said to them, “Give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.”

Malachi 3:8(b)“In tithes and offerings. 9 You are under a curse—your whole nation—because you are robbing me. 10 Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the Lord Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it. 11 I will prevent pests from devouring your crops, and the vines in your fields will not drop their fruit before it is ripe,” says the Lord Almighty. 12 “Then all the nations will call you blessed, for yours will be a delightful land,” says the Lord Almighty.

I see nothing in the New Testament that invalidates that. The 2 scriptures together make it look to me that God is saying that the tithe belongs to Him, and then Jesus said that we are to give unto God what is Gods.

But I can't point to a specific commandment in the new testament to tithe, in spite of the implication of what Jesus said in Mark 12:17. So I would recommend that you examine the motives of your heart. If you genuinely feel that God is not telling you to tithe, then by all means follow your conviction. But don't let a lack of faith in God's ability to provide supernaturally interfere with God's ability to talk to you on this. What if he tells you to give 50% of your income to the church? Are you willing?

If you examine the Malachi passage carefully, a totally different picture emerges. The first thing to note is that this is addressed to the Israelites, not to any gentile. So there is a possibility that it doesn't even apply to Christians at all. But lets continue to examine the passage.

The verse before where you start your quote (v 7) says, "From the days of your fathers you have turned aside from my ordinances, and have not kept them. Return to me, and I will return to you," says Yahweh of Armies. "But you say, 'How shall we return?'" (World English Bible) So this is referring to the Law of Israel, and the way the tithe is commanded to be kept in that Law. In that law, only the crops and livestock were submitted to the Lord. This is emphasized in verses 10 and 11: "Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house, and test me now in this," says Yahweh of Armies, "if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough for. I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast its fruit before its time in the field," says Yahweh of Armies." (world English Bible)

It is clear that Malachi is referring to the agricultural tithe, and not a tithe of income. A tithe of money is NO WHERE commanded in any scripture in the entire Bible.

Just some food for thought: Did you know that even the Jews do not tithe today, for they feel that it cannot be applied except in the land where there is a Levitical priesthood?
 
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for some reason as the tithe teachers use the Mal 3 curse to scare people, because of a jewish ordinance, they at the same time don't use the curse for breaking food ordinances like eating shrimp, catfish, crab, pork, lobster etc, that go against the law.

why?

because they wil get their congregations mad, that they r told can't eat their shrimp!

so they select the curse that favors their pockets!
 
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Some food for thought for you as well: they were an agricultural society, so their crops were their income. The implication is still a portion of income. The point of the tithe was to support the priesthood, since they weren't apportioned their own share of land.

As I already indicated, i don't see a commandment to tithe in the new testament, but I do see a promise of blessing that is no where invalidated in scripture.
 
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good pastoral advice here...:thumbsup:


acts 20:28 Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God,[d] which he obtained with his own blood.[e] 29 I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; 30 and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after them. 31 Therefore be alert, remembering that for three years I did not cease night or day to admonish every one with tears. 32 And now I commend you to God and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up and to give you the inheritance among all those who are sanctified. 33 I coveted no one's silver or gold or apparel. 34 You yourselves know that these hands ministered to my necessities and to those who were with me. 35 In all things I have shown you that by working hard in this way we must help the weak and remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he himself said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”
 
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Some food for thought for you as well: they were an agricultural society, so their crops were their income. The implication is still a portion of income. The point of the tithe was to support the priesthood, since they weren't apportioned their own share of land.

As I already indicated, i don't see a commandment to tithe in the new testament, but I do see a promise of blessing that is no where invalidated in scripture.

Yes there is a blessing for those who give, but not to those who give 10%. According 2 Corinthians 9, those who are blessed are those who give cheerfully, as much as been laid upon their hearts.

My wife and I are pretty poor, as I am in college and only work part time, and she works in education. We generally give around 5% of our income as gifts to the church. This is because if we pay more we will definitely not be able to pay our bills. My last paycheck was a bit more than expected, and the amount laid upon my heart comes out to about 12%. Also, we got an unexpected check in the mail, and the amount laid upon our hearts for this check is right at 10%.

We follow the model of cheerfully giving what the Lord has laid upon our hearts, and God blesses us greatly for it. Not always financially, but financial blessings are the least important kind.
 
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Some food for thought for you as well: they were an agricultural society, so their crops were their income. The implication is still a portion of income. The point of the tithe was to support the priesthood, since they weren't apportioned their own share of land.

But as in any agricultural society, not everyone were farmers. There were a great number of craftsmen (blacksmiths, carpenters, etc.), fisherman, etc. These people were NEVER required, anywhere in the Law or rest of the Bible, to pay ANY percentage of their income. What do tithers make of that? As far as I have seen, this point is often ignored by tithers.
 
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If you tithe - don't brag about it, don't beat people up with your so called doctrine about it.

However,

If you don't tithe - don't brag about it, don't beat people up with your so called doctrine about it

Be mature enough to state your beliefs and let it rest.

Be loving enough not to cram things down another's throat

Be humble enough to let the Holy Spirit deal with people
 
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My view is that the tithe was a part of the Old Covenant, much like sacrifices and festivals, that does not apply to Christians. It was given to the Children of Israel to support the Levitical priesthood.

We should give to our church whatever we are led to give, as the tithe is nowhere commanded of Christians in the New Testament.


'tis weird though that the Didache continued to support tithing though the contents were to be given teachers/prophets.


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'tis weird though that the Didache continued to support tithing though the contents were to be given teachers/prophets.


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Please correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the Didache only support the idea of firstfruits, but says nothing of tithing? I agree with firstfruits, setting aside money for the offering before you use your money for anything else. However, the tithe I do not agree is binding upon Christians.

Every firstfruit of the produce of the wine-vat and of the threshing-floor, of cattle and flocks, you will take and give as the firstfruit to your prophets; for they are your chief priests...If you prepare food, take and give the firstfruit according to the commandment. Likewise, when you open a jar of wine or oil, take and give the firstfruit to the prophets. Take also the firstfruit of money and clothing and every possession, as it may seem right to you, and give according to the commandment.
(from the Didache)
 
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how much money do I owe, please send me an invoice.:)

10% of every dollar you have made. Like every other law given by God in the OT and Jesus in the NT...no one completely abides by this.

and that's really the point. No matter how one interprets God's Word the fact still remains, nobody is doing it completely...hence the need for a Savior.

This is one of those argument that misses the point in either direction. Whether you are right or I am right the fact remain neither of us are doing what we believe complete with out error and it only takes one "miss" to void our part of the deal.

Thank you Jesus...is the point.
 
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'tis weird though that the Didache continued to support tithing though the contents were to be given teachers/prophets.


Steve

Didache
12:4 but he shall not stay with you more than two or three days, if it be necessary.
12:5 But if he wishes to settle with you, being a craftsman, let him work for and eat his bread.

Bread, just like Paul said in Thess, about working not to burden, and paying for his bread, with his own money.
 
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10% of every dollar you have made. Like every other law given by God in the OT and Jesus in the NT...no one completely abides by this.

and that's really the point. No matter how one interprets God's Word the fact still remains, nobody is doing it completely...hence the need for a Savior.

This is one of those argument that misses the point in either direction. Whether you are right or I am right the fact remain neither of us are doing what we believe complete with out error and it only takes one "miss" to void our part of the deal.

Thank you Jesus...is the point.

can u please start to post NT text, to bind me to a 10% church tax for the rest of my life? Thanks, rib-it.
 
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