I see that this (Because of the "vernacular" you used), is being overlooked,
and you do have a great point.
But it's not "energy centers" or "chakras" and since you do know Christian
words to use, and since this is a Christian site, it might help if you just used
those?
You could be speaking of the "lust of the flesh"
Or you could be experiencing spiritual activity
THAT may be the "empathy" thing you refer to, and I think you're right,
that in that case, it's not really WHAT she's wearing so much as a more
subtle seductive draw
?
Which is why I didn't and wont just ignore such references as being
interchangeable.
I have friends who I am very concerned about mixing this junk.
And I've seen your posts transform over the past year or so, as you've
learned and grown in different ways,... some good things, then some
(IMO) dangerous ideas, etc.
This stuff is NOTHING to play around with.
Don't just assume that every "spirit" is good.
And don't let my questions be a rock of offence to you.
I'm nobody, just a voice, (crying out in the wilderness?) lol
How do I know what you're into or not, hon?
it was a question, meant to cause a discussion.
I'm not your enemy, else I'd be an enemy of God Himself, no?
(I am assuming you're in covenant with the great I AM)
Hope that helps.
If I've offended you, I hope you
forgive me ...
I'm learning to be less offensive
...trying anyhow!
Rev Randy said:The distiller(my meaning in that post) is the person working the distilling equipment. I'm quite sure they can think and know that there are alcoholics out there.
I can look upon a woman, appreciate her beauty without desiring to partake of her sexually or I can take it to the next step and desire her. The choice is mine.
I am not saying that women who dress purposely to attract the lustful looks of men are not also in err. That would be a separate sin or wrong of of being a temptress. I'm saying it's not an excuse I would argue before the Lord. A cause might be the reason we sin but not an excuse that works.
I apologize,I misunderstood your post. I'm pretty sure we are agreeing with each other. i agree that if I am drunk, I cannot blame the bartender. That is a good example if the woman is dressed moderately and the man has an issue with idolizing and lusting after the woman.
Rev Randy said:No problem . I could see you thought I was speaking of the still itself.
Rev Randy said:It's the man's fault if she's naked and he lusts
This topic always depresses me...
I have a problem with the phrase "if Christ is in your heart there will be no desire to (insert anything applied)". There are times when we do things and we do not recognize it's sinful or that it is a stumbling block to others and that is in no way saying that you don't have Christ in your heart. I am not asking for rules, my goal is to ask the guys what clothing causes them to sin so that I can ease their struggles even if it's just a little bit.I have not replied to this topic for almost the same reason. If Christ is in the heart there will be no desire to dress inappropriately. We have women at work who dress to draw attention to themselves. They will wear short shorts and cowboy boots.
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God. - Deuteronomy 22:5
But I have seen in Pentecostal Holiness circles people trying to doctrinalize the clothesline. They will try to say that a woman must have a dress on. I have seen this type of stuff drive away many people.
So this topic depresses me too.
Why is that?
What is wrong with asking someone if "this is okay"? My best friend ask me that all the time. Some people do struggle with the way they dress and so therefore, they have to ponder "So...is this skirt ok or what about this top?" And I think God would be pleased that we're at least recognizing that our attire is not professing godliness.Because Paul specifically says that women are to adorn themselves with good works, and then the next question is: "So...is this skirt ok?" Or: "What about this top, this isn't sinful, is it?"
:facepalm:
I mean really, how much time did Jesus spend pondering the 'appropriateness' of his wardrobe? Just throw on some culturally acceptable clothing and go feed somebody already.
seeingeyes said:Because Paul specifically says that women are to adorn themselves with good works, and then the next question is: "So...is this skirt ok?" Or: "What about this top, this isn't sinful, is it?"
:facepalm:
I mean really, how much time did Jesus spend pondering the 'appropriateness' of his wardrobe? Just throw on some culturally acceptable clothing and go feed somebody already.
Joykins said:Put it this way: if I were to ask my husband "So...is this skirt ok?" Or: "What about this top, this isn't sinful, is it?" it wouldn't end in me getting dressed.
Modesty isn't rocket science. Go with clothes that cover you more or cling to your body less if you are in doubt. If you get disapproving or oglig reactions, or someone mentions that you look like a nun, you may have gone too far in either direction.
Mike to Michael said:We're guys - we make everything sexy in our heads. Trust me, we'll find a way to lust over you wearing jeans with sweatpants over the top, snow boots, a turtle neck under a winter coat, and a facemask. Seriously.
Joykins said:So you think she should wear skimpier, tighter clothing to be more modest?