Time For This Challenge Again

[AV1611VET]

Great mini series.
TV VIEW; 'JEWEL IN THE CROWN'- SUPERB DRAMA

England was a mighty nation at one time.

She was the most powerful nation on the face of the earth after the defeat of the Spanish Armada in 1588, and she gave us the King James Bible, Isaac Newton, and Charles Spurgeon.

But she gave her allegiance to the Catholic church, and not the church that Jesus Christ set up when He walked among us.

As a result, she came after us with a vengeance when we subordinated Divine Right of Kings to Consent of the Governed, and God intervened and ... as they say ...

How the mighty have fallen.

Today she houses one of the biggest mosques in Europe and heats her hospitals with aborted children.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

That's why smart people take in many different sources so they can avoid bias...

Even smart people have biases. The more educated one becomes the more biased toward liberal thought. They then suffer from the same kneejerk responses that others do.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

England was a mighty nation at one time.

She was the most powerful nation on the face of the earth after the defeat of the Spanish Armada in 1588, and she gave us the King James Bible, Isaac Newton, and Charles Spurgeon.

But she gave her allegiance to the Catholic church, and not the church that Jesus Christ set up when He walked among us.

As a result, she came after us with a vengeance when we subordinated Divine Right of Kings to Consent of the Governed, and God intervened and ... as they say ...

How the mighty have fallen.

Today she houses one of the biggest mosques in Europe and heats her hospitals with aborted children.

She has fulfilled the destiny of Ephraim.
We have fulfilled the destiny of Manasseh.
May God have mercy on us both.

 

[AV1611VET]

She has fulfilled the destiny of Ephraim.
We have fulfilled the destiny of Manasseh.
May God have mercy on us both.

Ever read this book?

 

[Kylie]

I'm ending the discussion about homelessness and poverty with you as you have injected outrageous non sequiturs into it.

lol, where?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

England was a mighty nation at one time.

She was the most powerful nation on the face of the earth after the defeat of the Spanish Armada in 1588, and she gave us the King James Bible, Isaac Newton, and Charles Spurgeon.

But she gave her allegiance to the Catholic church, and not the church that Jesus Christ set up when He walked among us.

As a result, she came after us with a vengeance when we subordinated Divine Right of Kings to Consent of the Governed, and God intervened and ... as they say ...

How the mighty have fallen.

Today she houses one of the biggest mosques in Europe and heats her hospitals with aborted children.

Wow. From this one could reasonably conclude that you have little knowledge of British history, little knowledge of Church history, little knowledge of US history and little understanding of present day Europe.

Maybe because it's not recorded in the bible so it can take a hike?

 

[AV1611VET]

From this one could reasonably conclude that you have little knowledge of British history, little knowledge of Church history, little knowledge of US history and little understanding of present day Europe.

Just how much do I need anyway?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Just how much do I need anyway?

To live? None. To be in a position to pontificate on such matters? Enough to get what you say correct.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Recall that I would review all cases, not just your extremes.

That sad part about my example, is that they aren't even that extreme.
People are being born virtually chanceless in the ghetto's every day.

Poverty and homelessness are indicators of failed morality, not failed policies,

Delusional.

and most of the blame belongs on those who have failed.

Yes, yes... like those kids that were unfortunate enough to be born into a poor family in the ghetto, surrounded by gangsters and do-nothings, that can't afford a proper education.
Yes, it's all that kid's fault. He just failed. uhu.

On the flip side, the son of the family with money, gets to do whatever the heck he wants and mommy and daddy will just bail him out and send him to harvard or princeton anyway. A normal middle class kid can forget about those schools if he does one mishap, but that's not a problem for the rich kid, who simply makes some extra payment to make that mishap "go away".

Your empathy, social resonsability and realistic view of society is completely lacking dude.

That is no way means that I don't have compassion on the unfortunate. I just recognize where to place the blame for their situation.

So first you say that you will review every case individually, and in the next breath you say that it's all their own fault.

Uhu.

In the case of the inner city kid I blame his parents.

But it's the kid that ends up homeless.

However when he or she becomes of age their future is their responsibility.

I'ld like to see you in such a setting.

I'm guess it wouldn't be pretty.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Holding people responsible for their behaviors is not unChristlike.

Really?
I though forgiveness and care for the poor and weak was christ-like.

Apparantly not.

 

[DogmaHunter]

I assume you are referring to third world countries.

No.

In America anyone can succeed (if not, try, try again).

Delusional.

How are you going to justify all the future homeless baby boomers that have earned big salaries and yet are not financially prepared for retirement or the health costs facing them as they age further. I envision 'homeless camps' around the nation, with millions of destitute baby boomers. Who is to blame, certainly not them.

It's not about justification or assigning blame.
It's about not letting people die in the gutter like rats. No matter who they are or how they ended up there.

 

[DogmaHunter]

America - the most un-christian nation on earth where your fellow man's suffering is their fault so they have to sort it out for themselves with no helping hand up at all. It disgusts me.

Funny how the least religious western countries in the world, also have the most "christ-like" social policies, while the most religious western country, is the exact opposite.

 

[DogmaHunter]

1. What is the wait time for your ingrown toenails and triple-organ transplants?

Much shorter then in the US and possible in any hospital, not just the one that some money-grabbing third party "approves".

I required surgery couple years ago. I had a bad case tendonites in my shoulder.

Here's how it went down:
- Visited housedoctor on monday
- Sends me to surgeon and fixes me an appointment on wednesday.
- Surgeon tells me I needs surgery and I get booked for friday
- 3 weeks paid sick leave
- 2x 20 physio therapy sessions. It would have been just one 1, but I added a second one because I wanted to get back to 100% motion very fast, because I wanted to go back playing the drums.

TOTAL cost for me, from beginning to end: 240 bucks. And it would have been just 110, but the second series of revalidation therapy was not fully covered, since it wasn't really necessary.

Wait time was thus virtually nothing.

I need another surgery now as we speak. It's a small thing, but it still needs to be done. But there is no hurry, I mean.

Went to housedoc, who sends me to specialist. Appointment was again made for me, within 3 workdays after housedoc visit. Specialist tells me I require surgery. If I wanted to, I could have gone in the very next day. But that didn't work for me due to business stuff.
So I went home without appointment, and with the knowledge that all I have to do is pick up the phone and tell the dude that I'm up for it and I could be in the OR within 3 to 5 workdays.

Ow, and it will cost me 90 bucks (housedoc visit included).


Yeah, it's quite nice, living in Europe.

 

[AV1611VET]

Much shorter then in the US and possible in any hospital, not just the one that some money-grabbing third party "approves".

Nice as ice!

Are you bragging or complaining?

 

[DogmaHunter]

Are you bragging or complaining?

Neither. Instead, I'm answering your question.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Much shorter then in the US and possible in any hospital, not just the one that some money-grabbing third party "approves".

I required surgery couple years ago. I had a bad case tendonites in my shoulder.

Here's how it went down:
- Visited housedoctor on monday
- Sends me to surgeon and fixes me an appointment on wednesday.
- Surgeon tells me I needs surgery and I get booked for friday
- 3 weeks paid sick leave
- 2x 20 physio therapy sessions. It would have been just one 1, but I added a second one because I wanted to get back to 100% motion very fast, because I wanted to go back playing the drums.

TOTAL cost for me, from beginning to end: 240 bucks. And it would have been just 110, but the second series of revalidation therapy was not fully covered, since it wasn't really necessary.

Wait time was thus virtually nothing.

I need another surgery now as we speak. It's a small thing, but it still needs to be done. But there is no hurry, I mean.

Went to housedoc, who sends me to specialist. Appointment was again made for me, within 3 workdays after housedoc visit. Specialist tells me I require surgery. If I wanted to, I could have gone in the very next day. But that didn't work for me due to business stuff.
So I went home without appointment, and with the knowledge that all I have to do is pick up the phone and tell the dude that I'm up for it and I could be in the OR within 3 to 5 workdays.

Ow, and it will cost me 90 bucks (housedoc visit included).


Yeah, it's quite nice, living in Europe.

Gotcha beat. I failed a heart stress test (ordered by my doctor). The cardiologist wanted to admit me and schedule me for bypass surgery right then and there.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

lol, where?

The cartoonist who wanted others to pay his bills and the guy freeloading off his student status.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Ever read this book?

No, but it looks interesting. I'll give it a read. My main source of British Israelism info comes from "Judah's Sceptre and Joseph's Birthright" by Rev. J.H. Allen, copyright 1902.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Your empathy, social resonsability and realistic view of society is completely lacking dude.

I'll put my citizenship up against anyone (bring your best challenger, and choose your metrics).

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Funny how the least religious western countries in the world, also have the most "christ-like" social policies, while the most religious western country, is the exact opposite.

We are a Christian people and it is fitting that able bodied people 'who refuse to work' should go hungry (words of God, through Paul).