Time For This Challenge Again

[bhsmte]

That is easy, That which agrees with the Word of the God (that created all things truly scientific) is true science. That which contradicts the true word of God, is neither accurate or true science, but a counterfeit, false science. "...avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science (knowledge) falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning the faith (the true way of living in the reality of this world). Grace be with thee. Amen." 1 Timothy 6:20-21.

You must have to reject quite a bit of proven science then. I can only imagine, how engaged your defense mechanisms need to be, to do so.

Lastly, how do you determine, whether you have the correct interpretation of what you call' god's word'?

 

[bhsmte]

You must be totally unfamiliar with all the secular and religious doctors that have attributed some surgical successes to God and answered prayers.

I would guess, the theory of evolution is one scientific theory you reject. If so, next time you go the the doctor, ask them if they agree with the theory and how it has contributed to modern medicine. At that point, i would hold your ears.

 

[TheFriendlyAtheist]

Some souls would prefer that they were spontaneously aborted rather than come full term, and then grow up to be a heathen, or an atheist, and end up in a Lake of Fire (Revelation 20:15) for eternity. God's ways are higher than our ways, Isaiah 55:8-11.

This is why a lot of people dislike Christianity. So ignoring the implication that this would mean abortion is actually a good thing because it would guarantee that child goes to heaven. Same with all childhood deaths. But this is saying I'm doomed to burn FOREVER in a flaming lake of sulfur based on not believing. The thing that is so pernicious about that is that I don't get to choose what I believe. I'm either convinced or I'm not. So if I were to profess my belief and devotion to Jesus without first being convinced of the truth of Christianity I would be bearing false witness. So I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't, literally.

I didn't become an atheist because I wanted to. I became an atheist because none of God's followers have been able to convince me that they know what he wants of us or whether or not God even exists.

 

[bhsmte]

This is why a lot of people dislike Christianity. So ignoring the implication that this would mean abortion is actually a good thing because it would guarantee that child goes to heaven. Same with all childhood deaths. But this is saying I'm doomed to burn FOREVER in a flaming lake of sulfur based on not believing. The thing that is so pernicious about that is that I don't get to choose what I believe. I'm either convinced or I'm not. So if I were to profess my belief and devotion to Jesus without first being convinced of the truth of Christianity I would be bearing false witness. So I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't, literally.

Nailed it!!!

 

[Kylie]

Well they don't, in my opinion.

But this bears repeating:

A little child should be able to look a Ph.D. right in the eyes and tell him he's wrong.

Because little children often know more than Ph.D.s do in their field.

Oh wait, no, that's just indoctrinating children, isn't it?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Not sure what this means?

Are you claiming naturally aborted pregnancies, are caused by a mother's diet?

Are you claiming that miscarriage is 'natural'? If so there's no reason to get uptight about it.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

LOL. If you think the above are the main reasons for naturally aborted pregnancies, you are fooling yourself.

These are some of the reasons for miscarriage, as outlined in the medical literature.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Ah, I get it. Of course. God cares about the unborn babies who might otherwise be born into a rough existence, but never mind the 3,100,000 kids who die from hunger each year. Screw those kids.

Got it.

God has left it up to us to address all these problems.

 

[Kylie]

God has left it up to us to address all these problems.

And the American government is stopping all those programs designed to help people in poverty, and yet people still support them.

 

[bhsmte]

These are some of the reasons for miscarriage, as outlined in the medical literature.

And many babies, are born to mothers addicted to drugs, who smoke and are alcoholics. Why doesnt god abort those?

 

[bhsmte]

Are you claiming that miscarriage is 'natural'? If so there's no reason to get uptight about it.

A large chunk of miscarriages, are not from any fault of the mothers lifestyle.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

And the American government is stopping all those programs designed to help people in poverty, and yet people still support them.

Not to worry, programs are still in place. Lot's of help for the poor. The liberal media and the activists make it seem like there is mass starvation and homelessness. We have the best cared for poor in the world.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

A large chunk of miscarriages, are not from any fault of the mothers lifestyle.

The literature also lists genetic weaknesses, among others not directly related to the mothers lifestyle, as causes.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

And many babies, are born to mothers addicted to drugs, who smoke and are alcoholics. Why doesnt god abort those?

Maybe he figures there's hope for them. The mother isn't that far gone.

 

[bhsmte]

The literature also lists genetic weaknesses, among others not directly related to the mothers lifestyle, as causes.

Of course, but many women who have natural miscarriages, also have normal pregnancies.

 

[bhsmte]

Maybe he figures there's hope for them. The mother isn't that far gone.

OK, so god allows some unhealthy babies to be born and to suffer.

 

[TheFriendlyAtheist]

Well according to the Old Testament if you look to King David. He sinned by getting a married woman pregnant then having her husband killed in battle. God punished David and the woman by killing their newborn child. So according to the bible God has punished children for the sins of their parents.

Or when God rained down pestilence on Israel because David requested a census without God telling him to. 70,000 innocent people were killed for that one.

 

[HitchSlap]

God has left it up to us to address all these problems.

So when god has an abortion, no problem, but heaven forbid if humans choose to have an abortion for the same reasons.

smh

 

[Kylie]

Not to worry, programs are still in place. Lot's of help for the poor. The liberal media and the activists make it seem like there is mass starvation and homelessness. We have the best cared for poor in the world.

lol

 

[AV1611VET]

Or when God rained down pestilence on Israel because David requested a census without God telling him to. 70,000 innocent people were killed for that one.

Maybe God should have just stayed out of the picture and let the Canaanites chew them up and spit them out, eh?