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Thunder Lauriston lecture on "Why Sunday worship cannot be the Mark of the Beast"

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A commandment of God is a commandment of God whether it be one of the 10 commandments or not.
But not all of them are civil laws under a theocracy
Not all of them are animal sacrifice laws
Not all of them are about who can be a Levitical priest and serve in the temple.

Deut 5:22 "God spoke these ten commandments from the mountain to the people ... And He added no more"

Not all of the OT commands are included in the moral law of God applicable to all mankind

No wonder - almost every Christian denomination on Earth affirms the continued *"unit of TEN" for Christians today
 
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Wrong because I gave you verses that specifically state that the sabbath and the dietary laws have been abolished as a requirement.
you need to check your facts on that one.
 
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When you say not according to God or Jesus but according to 'Jewish law' do you mean some document Jews authored and not God? so then "Not scripture"? Not "The Word of God"??


2 Tim 3:15 "all scripture is given by inspiration from God"

Heb 3 "The Holy Spirit said ..." referencing text in the OT.
Are you talking about "Jewish tradition" as in Mark 7:6-13???
Jesus often corrected Jewish tradition as we see in Mark 7.
agreed.


And often violated the Law in their idea of tradition as Christ points out in Mark 7.
Mark 7:
6 But He said to them, “Rightly did Isaiah prophesy about you hypocrites, as it is written:
‘This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far away from Me.
7 And in vain do they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.
8 Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.
9 He was also saying to them, “You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition. 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘The one who speaks evil of father or mother, is certainly to be put to death’; 11 but you say, ‘If a person says to his father or his mother, whatever I have that would help you is Corban (that is, given to God),’ 12 you no longer allow him to do anything for his father or his mother; 13 thereby invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that.
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But that is not what we see here -

The New Covenant is found in Jer 31:31-34 and includes the Law of God spoken at Sinai - and known to Jeremiah and his readers as the Law of God -- according to the text

Deut 5:22 "He spoke the Ten Commandments from the cloud on the mountain to the people - and he added no more"
.
Matt 28:19 - Jesus tells His disciples to go and teach everything that He taught them - which is why we have gospel accounts of Jesus' teaching and practice. As you admit - His teaching and practice was to affirm scripture - not reject it.
In all of that you still didn’t address the fact that you’re making the same mistake that the Jews made by implementing regulations that God did not command.
not true.

The mere quote of those texts seems to give rise to your objection
 
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But not all of them are civil laws under a theocracy
Not all of them are animal sacrifice laws
Not all of them are about who can be a Levitical priest and serve in the temple.

Deut 5:22 "God spoke these ten commandments from the mountain to the people ... And He added no more"

Not all of the OT commands are included in the moral law of God applicable to all mankind

No wonder - almost every Christian denomination on Earth affirms the continued *"unit of TEN" for Christians today
Except for the Sabbath commandment. Very few Christian denominations keep the Sabbath commandment because of Colossians 2 and Romans 14.
Animal sacrifices were for the forgiveness of sins Hebrews 9:22 a way to purify oneself from sins, which all pointed to Jesus who became our sacrificial Lamb and why we no longer need to sacrifice animals for the forgiveness of sins we can go directly to Him. The lambs in the Passovers all represented Jesus, which is why they needed to be without blemish.


Numb 9:13 But the man who is clean and is not on a journey, and ceases to keep the Passover, that same person shall be cut off from among his people, because he did not bring the offering of the Lord at its appointed time; that man shall bear his sin.

2 Cor 30:17 For there were many in the assembly who had not sanctified themselves; therefore the Levites had charge of the slaughter of the Passover lambs for everyone who was not clean, to sanctify them to the Lord.

John 11:55 And the Passover of the Jews was near, and many went from the country up to Jerusalem before the Passover, to purify themselves.
ok your misquoting numbers 9:13 and 2 Chronicles 30:17. it was a sin not to keep the Passover, that’s why in Numbers 9:13 the clean person who doesn’t sacrifice a lamb for the Passover will bear his sin. What sin will this clean person bear? The sin of not observing the Passover.

In 2 Chronicles 30:17 people must be made clean BEFORE they sacrifice the Passover lamb These people weren’t clean when they made their sacrifice so the Levite priests had to make another Passover sacrifice for them in order for their offering to be valid because the priests were clean.

And John 11:55 shows the same thing, that people had to make sin offerings BEFORE they sacrificed the Passover lamb. If the Passover lamb was a sin offering why would they need to purify themselves before sacrificing the Passover lamb? They purified themselves by making sin offerings. These verses only prove my point that the Passover sacrifice was not a sin offering otherwise they wouldn’t need to be clean before they made the Passover sacrifice. The only sin offerings I’m aware or in Judaism is the sin offerings made when a person sins and the yearly sin offering made on “The Day of Atonement” made with a scape goat.
 
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When you say not according to God or Jesus but according to 'Jewish law' do you mean some document Jews authored and not God? so then "Not scripture"? Not "The Word of God"??


2 Tim 3:15 "all scripture is given by inspiration from God"

Heb 3 "The Holy Spirit said ..." referencing text in the OT.
Are you talking about "Jewish tradition" as in Mark 7:6-13???
Jesus often corrected Jewish tradition as we see in Mark 7.
agreed.


And often violated the Law in their idea of tradition as Christ points out in Mark 7.
Mark 7:
6 But He said to them, “Rightly did Isaiah prophesy about you hypocrites, as it is written:
‘This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far away from Me.
7 And in vain do they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.
8 Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.
9 He was also saying to them, “You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition. 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘The one who speaks evil of father or mother, is certainly to be put to death’; 11 but you say, ‘If a person says to his father or his mother, whatever I have that would help you is Corban (that is, given to God),’ 12 you no longer allow him to do anything for his father or his mother; 13 thereby invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that.
=============================
But that is not what we see here -

The New Covenant is found in Jer 31:31-34 and includes the Law of God spoken at Sinai - and known to Jeremiah and his readers as the Law of God -- according to the text

Deut 5:22 "He spoke the Ten Commandments from the cloud on the mountain to the people - and he added no more"
.
Matt 28:19 - Jesus tells His disciples to go and teach everything that He taught them - which is why we have gospel accounts of Jesus' teaching and practice. As you admit - His teaching and practice was to affirm scripture - not reject it.

not true.

The mere quote of those texts seems to give rise to your objection
I think you missed the point of this post. The point was that the Jewish Law surpassed God’s commandment. They went above and beyond the commandments that God actually gave. And you’re doing the same thing by adding worship to the Sabbath commandment.
 
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I think you missed the point of this post. The point was that the Jewish Law surpassed God’s commandment.
Mark 7:6-13 deals with "Jewish Law" -- "the traditions of men" and contrasts it with the "Commandments of God" as the quote of the text below proves beyond all doubt. Your statement above appears try to draw a conflict between God's Commandments and what Jesus calls "The Word of God, the Commandments of God" -- correct?

7 And in vain do they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’
8 Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.”
9 He was also saying to them, “You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition. 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘The one who speaks evil of father or mother, is certainly to be put to death’; 11 but you say, ‘If a person says to his father or his mother, whatever I have that would help you is Corban (that is, given to God),’ 12 you no longer allow him to do anything for his father or his mother; 13 thereby invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that.”

In red we have what Christ Himself calls -- "Commandment of God", "Word of God", "Moses said"
(since ALL scripture is given by inspiration from GOD -- 2Tim 3:16

Christ places that in contrast with what is in bold underline black in the above quote "commandments of men" "but you say" "your tradition" - is that what you call "Jewish Law"??

Or do you call 'Do not take God's name in vain' Ex 20:7, and "Honor your father and mother" Ex 20:12 - as "Jewish law" no matter what Christ says to the contrary about that idea?

Paul commands "'Honor your father and mother' which is the first commandment with a promise" Eph 6:2 in that still valid set of "Commandments of God" we call the TEN
They went above and beyond the commandments that God actually gave
True - their traditions did do that.
. And you’re doing the same thing by adding worship to the Sabbath commandment.
I did not write the Bible.

The Word of God calls the Sabbath "a day of holy convocation" Lev 23:3
The Word of God says "from Sabbath to Sabbath shall all mankind come before Me to worship" Is 66:23
The Word of God says that "Every Sabbath" Paul was at worship , preaching the Gospel to both gentiles and Jews Acts 18:4
The Word of God says that gentiles ask for "more gospel preaching to be given on the NEXT Sabbath" Acts 13

Apparently -- your statement only works by blaming me for what is found in the Word of God and hoping the reader will not notice.

Surely you know that your tactic would not be considered particularly "compelling" to those like me (and many others here) who have read these other "inconvenient" Bible texts listed above.
 
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Except for the Sabbath commandment. Very few Christian denominations keep the Sabbath commandment

Almost ALL Christian denominations on planet Earth affirm all TEN of the TEN Commandments including the Sabbath Commandment as we have seen repeatedly so far.

But the majority of them choose to "Edit" the Sabbath commandment and repoint it to weekday 1 after the cross. Is that what you are trying to say?
 
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And John 11:55 shows the same thing, that people had to make sin offerings BEFORE they sacrificed the Passover lamb. If the Passover lamb was a sin offering why would they need to purify themselves before sacrificing the Passover lamb? They purified themselves by making sin offerings. These verses only prove my point that the Passover sacrifice was not a sin offering otherwise they wouldn’t need to be clean before they made the Passover sacrifice. The only sin offerings I’m aware or in Judaism is the sin offerings made when a person sins and the yearly sin offering made on “The Day of Atonement” made with a scape goat.
1. The scape goat was not a sin offering. All sin offerings were slain. In Lev 16 the scapegoat is to be set free. only the Lord's goat dies as a sin offering.

2. 1 Cor 5 "Christ our PASSOVER has been slain"
Is 53 Christ "made Himself a SIN offering" -- "made Himself an offering for sin
"

The same is the case in the Lord's supper today - the Christian prays for forgiveness BEFORE engaging in the Lord's Supper lest they be guilty of participating in an unworthy manner as we see in 1 Cor 11.
 
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Except for the Sabbath commandment. Very few Christian denominations keep the Sabbath commandment because of Colossians 2 and Romans 14.

True and its sad, especially once you start examining the context of these two scriptures. One is referring to ordinances Col 2:14 KJV and the other not once mentions the Sabbath commandment. Plus, it doesn't fit since Jesus expected His people to be keeping the Sabbath long after He ascends back to heaven Matthew 24:20 and the apostles and His followers kept every Sabbath long after the cross and will be kept in heaven, but yet people hold fast with their traditions over the commandments of God despites Jesus clear warning for doing so. Matthew 15:3-9
ok your misquoting numbers 9:13 and 2 Chronicles 30:17. it was a sin not to keep the Passover, that’s why in Numbers 9:13 the clean person who doesn’t sacrifice a lamb for the Passover will bear his sin. What sin will this clean person bear? The sin of not observing the Passover.

In 2 Chronicles 30:17 people must be made clean BEFORE they sacrifice the Passover lamb These people weren’t clean when they made their sacrifice so the Levite priests had to make another Passover sacrifice for them in order for their offering to be valid because the priests were clean.

And John 11:55 shows the same thing, that people had to make sin offerings BEFORE they sacrificed the Passover lamb. If the Passover lamb was a sin offering why would they need to purify themselves before sacrificing the Passover lamb? They purified themselves by making sin offerings. These verses only prove my point that the Passover sacrifice was not a sin offering otherwise they wouldn’t need to be clean before they made the Passover sacrifice. The only sin offerings I’m aware or in Judaism is the sin offerings made when a person sins and the yearly sin offering made on “The Day of Atonement” made with a scape goat.
All of the feast days, food offerings, sin offerings drink offerings and festivals all pointed to Jesus who took the penalty of sin. Sin is defined as breaking God's law 1 John 3:4 Romans 7:7 and what we all will be judged by James 2:10-12.

We have free will to do and believe what we want, but scripture shows its not the majority who keep the commandments of God, but His remnant Rev 12:17 KJV which is why we should never follow the majority over God's written and spoken Words. Narrow is the gate. Matthew 7:13-14
 
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Mark 7:6-13 deals with "Jewish Law" -- "the traditions of men" and contrasts it with the "Commandments of God" as the quote of the text below proves beyond all doubt. Your statement above appears try to draw a conflict between God's Commandments and what Jesus calls "The Word of God, the Commandments of God" -- correct?

7 And in vain do they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’
Yes this is exactly what you’re doing. You’re teaching that God commanded that we must worship on the Sabbath when there is no commandment to worship. The commandment was to rest.
 
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Mark 7:6-13 deals with "Jewish Law" -- "the traditions of men" and contrasts it with the "Commandments of God" as the quote of the text below proves beyond all doubt. Your statement above appears try to draw a conflict between God's Commandments and what Jesus calls "The Word of God, the Commandments of God" -- correct?

7 And in vain do they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’
8 Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.”
9 He was also saying to them, “You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition. 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘The one who speaks evil of father or mother, is certainly to be put to death’; 11 but you say, ‘If a person says to his father or his mother, whatever I have that would help you is Corban (that is, given to God),’ 12 you no longer allow him to do anything for his father or his mother; 13 thereby invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that.”

In red we have what Christ Himself calls -- "Commandment of God", "Word of God", "Moses said"
(since ALL scripture is given by inspiration from GOD -- 2Tim 3:16

Christ places that in contrast with what is in bold underline black in the above quote "commandments of men" "but you say" "your tradition" - is that what you call "Jewish Law"??

Or do you call 'Do not take God's name in vain' Ex 20:7, and "Honor your father and mother" Ex 20:12 - as "Jewish law" no matter what Christ says to the contrary about that idea?

Paul commands "'Honor your father and mother' which is the first commandment with a promise" Eph 6:2 in that still valid set of "Commandments of God" we call the TEN

True - their traditions did do that.

I did not write the Bible.

The Word of God calls the Sabbath "a day of holy convocation" Lev 23:3
The Word of God says "from Sabbath to Sabbath shall all mankind come before Me to worship" Is 66:23
The Word of God says that "Every Sabbath" Paul was at worship , preaching the Gospel to both gentiles and Jews Acts 18:4
The Word of God says that gentiles ask for "more gospel preaching to be given on the NEXT Sabbath" Acts 13

Apparently -- your statement only works by blaming me for what is found in the Word of God and hoping the reader will not notice.

Surely you know that your tactic would not be considered particularly "compelling" to those like me (and many others here) who have read these other "inconvenient" Bible texts listed above.
Isaiah 66:23 is saying we will worship God everyday in heaven, not just on the sabbath.
 
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1. The scape goat was not a sin offering. All sin offerings were slain. In Lev 16 the scapegoat is to be set free. only the Lord's goat dies as a sin offering.

2. 1 Cor 5 "Christ our PASSOVER has been slain"
Is 53 Christ "made Himself a SIN offering" -- "made Himself an offering for sin
"

The same is the case in the Lord's supper today - the Christian prays for forgiveness BEFORE engaging in the Lord's Supper lest they be guilty of participating in an unworthy manner as we see in 1 Cor 11.
Yeah you’re correct, I knew that, I don’t know why I included that as a sin offering.
 
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True and its sad, especially once you start examining the context of these two scriptures. One is referring to ordinances Col 2:14 KJV and the other not once mentions the Sabbath commandment. Plus, it doesn't fit since Jesus expected His people to be keeping the Sabbath long after He ascends back to heaven Matthew 24:20 and the apostles and His followers kept every Sabbath long after the cross and will be kept in heaven, but yet people hold fast with their traditions over the commandments of God despites Jesus clear warning for doing so. Matthew 15:3-9

All of the feast days, food offerings, sin offerings drink offerings and festivals all pointed to Jesus who took the penalty of sin. Sin is defined as breaking God's law 1 John 3:4 Romans 7:7 and what we all will be judged by James 2:10-12.

We have free will to do and believe what we want, but scripture shows its not the majority who keep the commandments of God, but His remnant Rev 12:17 KJV which is why we should never follow the majority over God's written and spoken Words. Narrow is the gate. Matthew 7:13-14
I’m not following the majority I’m following scripture. If I were following the majority I would believe in faith alone and eternal security, both of which are false doctrines. I base my beliefs on my own study of the scriptures not on what somebody tells me. I learned a long time ago that going off of what people tell you about the scriptures only leads to confusion and chaos because you can find a commentary for every false doctrine ever invented.
 
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I’m not following the majority I’m following scripture. If I were following the majority I would believe in faith alone and eternal security, both of which are false doctrines. I base my beliefs on my own study of the scriptures not on what somebody tells me. I learned a long time ago that going off of what people tell you about the scriptures only leads to confusion and chaos because you can find a commentary for every false doctrine ever invented.
Let me guess, Revelation 12:17 was quoted. To basically be interpreted as, the remnant who keeps the comments of God by going to an SDA church on Saturday.

My guess is many sabitarians don't really folow the commandment of the sabbath to the letter. They turn on lights, wipe up a spill, wash a dish, cook or warm up a meal, make a salad, pick up their kids toys, do a little shopping etc etc.
 
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Yes this is exactly what you’re doing. You’re teaching that God commanded that we must worship on the Sabbath when there is no commandment to worship. The commandment was to rest.
and to gather for holy convocation Lev 23:3

The Word of God calls the Sabbath "a day of holy convocation" Lev 23:3
The Word of God says "from Sabbath to Sabbath shall all mankind come before Me to worship" Is 66:23
The Word of God says that "Every Sabbath" Paul was at worship , preaching the Gospel to both gentiles and Jews Acts 18:4
The Word of God says that gentiles ask for "more gospel preaching to be given on the NEXT Sabbath" Acts 13
 
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Isaiah 66:23 is saying we will worship God everyday in heaven, not just on the sabbath.
The word everyday is not included in Isaiah 66:23. This would be mean the saved would be gathering before the Lord 24/7 for worship when scripture tells us the saints will be building homes and tending to vineyards, so this interpretation is another way to sadly explain another Sabbath verse away, instead of accepting it for what it really says.

And it shall come to pass
That from one New Moon to another,
And from one Sabbath to another,
All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord.


I go to church from one Sabbath to another, I do not go to church daily. Just like now, not every day is the Sabbath, no work 24/7 would be impossible and God's will for us on earth is not different for us in heaven.
I’m not following the majority I’m following scripture. If I were following the majority I would believe in faith alone and eternal security, both of which are false doctrines. I base my beliefs on my own study of the scriptures not on what somebody tells me. I learned a long time ago that going off of what people tell you about the scriptures only leads to confusion and chaos because you can find a commentary for every false doctrine ever invented.
That's good, I was only mentioning that because you said the majority of people don't keep the Sabbath, like that is who we follow - over God's Word that says the Sabbath is one of God's commandments that He wrote and He spoke and is in His heavenly Temple Revelation 11:19 , the day God set aside for holy use and blessed. God deemed all days except the Sabbath as working days. Exodus 20:8-11
Yes this is exactly what you’re doing. You’re teaching that God commanded that we must worship on the Sabbath when there is no commandment to worship. The commandment was to rest.
The commandment is to keep the Sabbath day holy Exodus 20:8 do you not think our worship to God is holy on the day He sanctified and blessed for holy use? Do you think the day set aside to honor God Isaiah 58:13 is different than worship?
 
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The word everyday is not included in Isaiah 66:23. This would be mean the saved would be gathering before the Lord 24/7 for worship when scripture tells us the saints will be building homes and tending to vineyards, so this interpretation is another way to sadly explain another Sabbath verse away, instead of accepting it for what it really says.

And it shall come to pass
That from one New Moon to another,
And from one Sabbath to another,
All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord.


I go to church from one Sabbath to another, I do not go to church daily. Just like now, not every day is the Sabbath, no work 24/7 would be impossible and God's will for us on earth is not different for us in heaven.
Every day and daily doesn't mean 24/7. It just means 7 days a week instead of one day a week. From one sabbath to another means from one week to another, from one new moon to another, means from one month to another. Do you really think worshiping the Lord is confined to and limited to being in church once a week for an hour?

That's good, I was only mentioning that because you said the majority of people worship on Sunday, like that is who we follow - yet no commandment for that, not a day God set aside for holy use- sanctified or blessed. God deemed all days except the Sabbath as working days. Exodus 20:8-11

The commandment is to keep the Sabbath day holy Exodus 20:8 do you not think our worship to God is holy on the day He sanctified and blessed for holy use?
The word worship isn't in Exodus 20:8-11. God commanded the Hebrews to rest on the Sabbath in that passage.
 
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Every day and daily doesn't mean 24/7. It just means 7 days a week instead of one day a week. From one sabbath to another means from one week to another, from one new moon to another, means from one month to another. Do you really think worshiping the Lord is confined to and limited to being in church once a week for an hour?
It says on the Sabbath (from one Sabbath to another) not from one day to another- the saints will be coming before the Lord for worship. Isaiah 66:22-23 This corelates perfectly with the Sabbath commandment that God said would be a perpetual covenant and has never been abrogated in scripture.

We should worship God daily, but that does not mean every day is the Sabbath where 24/7 we spend the entire day in communion and fellowship with God. The Sabbath is much more than an hour of worship, this commandment deals with our time and God wants to spend holy time with His children on the day He designated, not the day assigned to Him by man that God said to work and do labors.
The word worship isn't in Exodus 20:8-11. God commanded the Hebrews to rest on the Sabbath in that passage.
It says to keep the Sabbath day holy Exodus 20:8 To do all of our labors in six days Exodus 20:9- is your worship to God better suited to be on the day God sanctified for holy use and blessed, or the day He said to do work and labors.

God included everyone....

Exodus 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Gentiles are included....God wants to bless everyone...

Isaiah 56:6 “Also the sons of the foreigner
Who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him,
And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants—
Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And holds fast My covenant

Hense- the Sabbath was made for man Mark 2:27

The Sabbath is God's holy day, not the holy day of the Jews Isaiah 58:13 and we are made in the image of God to follow Him, not to do our own thing which was the very first sin.
 
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Let me guess, Revelation 12:17 was quoted. To basically be interpreted as, the remnant who keeps the comments of God by going to an SDA church on Saturday.

My guess is many sabitarians don't really folow the commandment of the sabbath to the letter. They turn on lights, wipe up a spill, wash a dish, cook or warm up a meal, make a salad, pick up their kids toys, do a little shopping etc etc.
No scripture says one will be judged based on what others do or did not do, we all will be judged individually based on our own deeds. 2 Cor 5:10 Nothing will be secret, we can't fool God. Ecclesiastes 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. 14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

There is no sin in eating on the Sabbath, but it would be to do shopping as God designated Friday as the Preparation Day Mark 15:42 so one can be ready to keep the Sabbath day holy. We have a very understanding Creator and knows our every thought and action and many think the Sabbath is like how the Jews were making it, all about man-made rule keeping and not about the day to honor God and keep His Sabbath day holy Isaiah 58:13 Exodus 20:8 and many use this argument that the Sabbath can't be kept instead of relying on the power of the Holy Spirit who is given so we can keep the commandments, including the Sabbath. John 14:15-18 Acts 5:32
 
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