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Ouch ! Suffered a spanking by Mary in Wrestling with the spirit thread. Thanks for interceding Papa x141 ... It made me go intro (or outro? or both?) spective and look through Mary/katies eyes .

This is where you guys say , "Well taken son" LOL.

Jugg, your a movie man I see. Saw interstellar and FTARH. Seen "Lucy" yet ? The one where a lady gains full access to the brain. Chekkkk it ouuut :bigeye: ,if ya haven't...Thumbs up here. Umm, talking movies may need to go to yours or my own threads in respect to x141. Thanks again X for a well timed post !
 
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Ouch ! Suffered a spanking by Mary in Wrestling with the spirit thread. Thanks for interceding Papa x141 ... It made me go intro (or outro? or both?) spective and look through Mary/katies eyes .

This is where you guys say , "Well taken son" LOL.

Jugg, your a movie man I see. Saw interstellar and FTARH. Seen "Lucy" yet ? The one where a lady gains full access to the brain. Chekkkk it ouuut :bigeye: ,if ya haven't...Thumbs up here. Umm, talking movies may need to go to yours or my own threads in respect to x141. Thanks again X for a well timed post !

Yes, I have seen "Lucy" thought it was an excellant movie .... and yes .... to moving to another thread if we talk movies
 
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He starts with one then narrows it back down to one, which we are this one individually and collectively; it is a consensus of self.

Which is what I saw in the name you chose for this board .......
x = multiply
1+4+1=6 multiply man (who is the process)
first 1 = the beginning
second 1 = the end
4 = the earth

THUS:
x141 = Multiply the process (in the earth) between the beginning and the end

Which in a nutshell equals ..... be fruitful and multiply ..... a command before the world was
 
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"And the Lord said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of Egypt, have corrupted themselves."

God disassociates himself with his people even to the point of not having been the one who brought them out.

This verse speaks to the process of coming to the true nature of God that is hindered only by our own perception of him.

The symbolism (found in the language of God ) in the coming out of Egypt is found in everything, as the path one must take to the understanding of the motive of the one who brought you out, which process is found in each of us.

He calls every son out of Egypt.

Just reread this for the first time with what I have come to understand, man oh man, what a revelation.

I think I might have to reread the whole thread again
 
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Just reread this for the first time with what I have come to understand, man oh man, what a revelation.

I think I might have to reread the whole thread again

Build a city out of any truth, and the journey in ends, which is relative to the moment.

My soul never ceases to be amazed ...
 
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Which is what I saw in the name you chose for this board .......
x = multiply
1+4+1=6 multiply man (who is the process)
first 1 = the beginning
second 1 = the end
4 = the earth

THUS:
x141 = Multiply the process (in the earth) between the beginning and the end

Which in a nutshell equals ..... be fruitful and multiply ..... a command before the world was

It is amazing how truths like this are every where ... they are as visitations of angels, ascending and descending upon the son/soul of man.
 
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Been over at the UR thread and was lead to post the following because I saw dueling scriptures which most of the time does no good ......

The Father is the Spirit of the mind that contains all wisdom, knowledge and understanding (which is also in Christ)

The Son is the Spirit of the heart that contains all Love, forgiveness and compassion (which is also in the Father)

If you have seen Me, you have seen the Father

Those who seek the Son have their old heart of hatred put to death by the Father through Christ (through the forgiveness of sin), thus given a heart of love, given HIS heart of Love, compassion and forgiveness (Christ)

Those who seek the Father have the old mind of ignorance put to death (destroyed) by the Son by the giving of the Father's Spirit for the renewing of the mind so they can see the Father ..... given HIS mind of wisdom, knowledge and understanding (The mind of Christ who is the Father)..... so they can see the Father in the Son and see the Son in the Father

This is the universal reconciliation of mankind through the Son to the Father all accomplished in us by HIS Holy Spirit so that none can boast

Just wanted to add one last thing, this is the Christ (Heart of the Father) that I accept and continually accept as my Savior from my old heart and mind ..... He will finish a work He started in me .... He is not a ritual performed by us ... He is a lifestyle lived through us
 
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From SpanthatSpark's thread ...

A word that is God separates us if we take thought, if we are obedient it becomes something that (consciously) can be as a land we enter ever further into by this same obedience. In one form it is a bottomless pit (our soul) in another an ascending forever.

She (our soul) gives us to eat, which becomes a law to us, whether this be to us death or life (in relationship to seed time and harvest, or past this truth of the duality the process is formed out of; but the two are one (a garden enclosed) no matter what these two appear as to us (such as two sons) in the moment) though the soul comes out of the breathe that is (in symbolism) life, father, God, son, or truth, etc. (the soul being saved/delivered through a birth in relationship to self).

I heard by the hearing of the ear, but now I see, and have continually been entering into what I have seen, which is new to me every morning (and not subjected as it were to days hours or minutes).

I see others as myself.

The glory given is that we might wake up to see where he is, which is where we have all along been (it is a state of consciousness, or soul, as a city coming down from God out of heaven prepared as this from the beginning), not being a matter of thought, but thought being of the matter, or light.

As you know, the heavens open to you, and he causes you to sit and eat which is the process that is a continuous rest as opposed to a continuous wandering after an image.

I will say this, how the voice is heard depends on what heaven you are in.

All paths that begin in heaven lead to heaven …
 
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whether we live in the one wrong choice or a lifetime of wrong choices, it is still a life of sin which causes death

but to live in the one right choice we find we can do no wrong which brings life

Those who are born of God (which is a perception that we are woken up to as to where we have come from) being that you cannot get there unless you came from there) cannot sin, because his seed (this truth of self) remains in him (itself being a present truth not obtained through the labor of thought).

Who the son sets free is free indeed, and this by being that very son who the father reveals as them in them.

Even sin and death take on a present truth relative to perception as being who we are and it's reflections as to a seed that is spilt on the ground (or an it repented God that he had made man on the earth), which is tantamount to a truth cast down (or a cast thy self down) an temptation to eat, or to build a tower that reaches to heaven.
 
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What was silent in the Father, speaks in the Son, and often I found in the Son, the unveiling secret of the Father

The two are one truth, we are one truth, to which we by our soul are scattered from, and then gathered back again to. it is the multiplying of the sons (thoughts/words) of God, likened to a seed time and harvest as being reflective of the process the kingdom of God (which is the perception of the truth of self) undergoes.
 
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Re-Delving into the patterns found in the perception that is the inheritance …

It is easy to be distracted, or wander in the (a) field …

Joseph has two dreams (two weeks, or two sevens (maid child, two weeks unclean), they are two sons, two fathers two brethren (the two mothers bring us to a seemingly different category of sorts which are seen in the four rivers/angels/beasts/etc. which the forty and two play into as something that is in the midst of the week, and also something that is rent, or torn (in reference to the veil as seen in the temple or in the literal flesh of a woman as it is in her children) and is the view from the feminine of these three things according to her children), after these dreams you find him in a field which lands him in a pit as something sold to Egypt, and like a cross it don’t look right but it is. Noah has a seven days (and yet I will cause it to rain in lieu of a second forty), and his forty days and forty nights, and his three sevens (a perception) that causes him to make an offering, that leads him into a field (a planting of a vineyard (to the revealing of his nakedness (what son is tabernacled …) though chapter seven, and chapter eight of Genesis is packed full of symbolism that attest to every number that you asked about, but in forms that represent them in an abstract manner because they are simply pieces of the same whole and must not be divided by our soul) . They are akin to something not complete, (as you said of eleven (in the feminine things appear in two’s that lead to confusion, in the masculine the two are the same, such as Esau … where did he come in from and what did it lead him to do, but in the end what kind of God hates someone before they are born …) but the younger is the feminine the elder the masculine respectively (which is found in how their process unfolds to them), which you find in the phrases God rested from all his works, and Jesus’ I came to finish the work (we being the lucky charms or third). God starts with one and in the multiplication is the repetitive scenario until it becomes one nation chosen, just as much as it was Judas that was chosen (or what Joseph became to his brethren as someone God chose), or an Esau who was the chosen of his father but not of his mother (or in the feminine the daughter of my father and not the daughter of my mother where Abraham wanders concerning no fear of God in this place, Abimelech saying what did you see that would cause you to do such a thing), embedded in that is this same garden scenario with its hour, day, month and year (the narrative of the earthly/feminine (the sixth angel that sounds, and the four that are loosed become a law as much as the ten brethren did to Joseph.

The problem (as you know) with trying to write this out is that it goes so far beyond the path the words create and for most would only appear as gibberish, or in one picture what comes out of the woods, but with that said, I may add to this after a while, we also still need to see things from the vantage point of the God we perceived (from the first Pentecost/process) to be our father which becomes the masculine of what Noah (as one example of a rest) was the feminine of, which changes with the words “this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased.”
 
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