Thoughts ...

PeaceJoyLove said:

Right believing leads to right living...The problem with sin dies when our identity crisis is revealed in the son...

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ya-- God conscious, and not sin conscious..

mozo41 said:

Like Pineal?

portrayed on some temples as a pine cone, hence pine/Christmas tree ... seat of the soul etc

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Or like "Peniel", the place where Jacob wrestled God face to face...and got a new name.

In a picture in the beginning... As a child we talked to our friend as we play by ourselves. Who were we talking too in joy...

open the pine cone with fire and eat the seeds. one reason Jesus used the figure of Father to denote God was so that we can notice our perception and experience of a father which helps define what we think of God.

psychologically... saying "my Father is greater than all" can be seen as someone trusting in reality and having a stability or peace in it that surpasses understanding. it is also in the line of those (i think called) pure land buddist who are very open to the mercy/grace and put it all in Buddhas hands. in those things there is a kind of huge openness of spirit that a lady named jill had a spiritual experience of when she had a certain kind of stroke on a left part of her brain.

yet Jesus was killed which I think shows a truth that both scoffs at survival while at the same time being a higher kind of survival in that many were saved by his action and much goodness was done in the world due to his death.

but the kind of calculation as to what can be done in reality that will be well and good for all is not something a human has the ability to know fully. maybe in some sense even God can't know some things since he is playing a game with his creatures least by his power we all melt and burn and become uniform, thus rendering the work he set forth to completion to not be revealed in certain ways. all things are justified in the name of love and souls. the image of reality, our universe, has both planets and suns. it would not be the same if there was only suns or only planets. they go together and they make it better.

we already have all things which is not only just the different separations of stuff. how could one think that Jupiter is less important for the earth than the sun is? they both make the earth what it is but what evil does is something like make Jupiter go against it's own laws and get closer to the earth and break the earth apart. however God appears as a serpent at the first and who knows what would be if Jupiter really came closer to the earth. what would jupiters moons be like if they did not have jupiter? they might still be but how they would be would then be different.

when humans value something it already starts to devalue other things. we put our limited efforts and focus upon something and thus it is taken away from other things. but don't worry, we have all eternity1 and infinity2 and it's always unique3.

FanthatSpark said:

In a picture in the beginning... As a child we talked to our friend as we play by ourselves. Who were we talking too in joy...

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was that a dream of yours? I have been having a lot of great dreams lately, I always love when I get to experience heaven more and somehow have a revelation or clarity by something in a dream since my brain can't flesh everything out by only experiencing things in waking life and thinking about stuff. plus dreams give a kind of relief from being trapped with this kind of a crude body.

in dreams the constructions of my brain are resurrected into a more spiritual form and they are more reality than just the scientific knowledge of how the body is constructed. one part of my brain was literally trying to tell me that we are all but I did not notice or regard her til I woke up and thought about it. the dream would have turned out differently if I had heeded her advice because I would have stopped with the thought process come to life in the figure of another authoritarian woman who was trying to frame me for something. but it was still a really cool experience.

scientific understanding about reality can throw some big punches at mysticism which is good because it gives us the option to reject it and to become something else which will turn it well for us if we are pure. as for me, I can't find value in the hard-headed and "I don't like it but it's the truth" kind of attitudes. i'm more the "might as well kill myself now if i'm gonna not exist in a few years" kind of guy. I prefer to embrace as much truth as possible and I have not found anything that can defeat some of what I have.

Noxot said:

was that a dream of yours?

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A state of mind.

I like to drink a lot of coffee for a while because it seems to suppress certain functions in my brain which then will get released in a greater amount to make vivid dreams. weed is known to stop people from dreaming too. I hope to exist in the kind of state of being that I desire even though I can't see it clearly. sometimes I feel this world is no longer worth it even though i know there is a lot of potential and actual goodness that can come out of it.

I still get tired of how many people are or how they could be to me if I decided to be certain ways. I find it very annoying how so many people love some kind of official authority or abstract idea such as government or land more than they love people. imo their (society in general) morals are not high or refined enough. I know we are all creatures and I certainly feel a powerful separation from most others due to my kind of personality and in being a creature so i get why the world is how it is. I also know things could be a lot worse. I don't want to have to be thankful for merely existing in a world or society where I have food and shelter and endlessly toil over such things but that seems to be part of what creatures are and I know the spirit yearns to perfect all such kinds of things.

knowing that if I killed myself so i can stop being here would only mean I get to go and enjoy something else yet it is pushed back by the fear that I will have done damage and not fulfilled the plans of why i'm in the world. I don't wanna make my soul bad but I wish people would accept that death is basically nothing but a kind of release from the suffering that being a creature naturally has. I do have a fear that I am becoming too selfish but I question why so many laud being selfless as a high virtue just because that is what i hear has been highly successful and a main component of heaven. I have no clue why people burden themselves with expensive funerals.

(In one form) the slaying of the Philstines with the jaw bone of an ass is a picture of a kingdom not given.

There is more in what is not said, then what is said.

Be careful how you hear ... (but even such a statement as this, can be a serpent, if you have not agreed with your adversary).

Noxot said:

I like to drink a lot of coffee for a while because it seems to suppress certain functions in my brain which then will get released in a greater amount to make vivid dreams. weed is known to stop people from dreaming too. I hope to exist in the kind of state of being that I desire even though I can't see it clearly. sometimes I feel this world is no longer worth it even though i know there is a lot of potential and actual goodness that can come out of it.

I still get tired of how many people are or how they could be to me if I decided to be certain ways. I find it very annoying how so many people love some kind of official authority or abstract idea such as government or land more than they love people. imo their (society in general) morals are not high or refined enough. I know we are all creatures and I certainly feel a powerful separation from most others due to my kind of personality and in being a creature so i get why the world is how it is. I also know things could be a lot worse. I don't want to have to be thankful for merely existing in a world or society where I have food and shelter and endlessly toil over such things but that seems to be part of what creatures are and I know the spirit yearns to perfect all such kinds of things.

knowing that if I killed myself so i can stop being here would only mean I get to go and enjoy something else yet it is pushed back by the fear that I will have done damage and not fulfilled the plans of why i'm in the world. I don't wanna make my soul bad but I wish people would accept that death is basically nothing but a kind of release from the suffering that being a creature naturally has. I do have a fear that I am becoming too selfish but I question why so many laud being selfless as a high virtue just because that is what i hear has been highly successful and a main component of heaven. I have no clue why people burden themselves with expensive funerals.

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There is a balance (consciously) found in death and life, that makes the ground continuously fertile, yet a single thought taken can send you spiraling from it.

Aseyesee said:

(In one form) the slaying of the Philstines with the jaw bone of an ass is a picture of a kingdom not given.

There is more in what is not said, then what is said.

Be careful how you hear ... (but even such a statement as this, can be a serpent, if you have not agreed with your adversary).

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Trying to get a clear innerstanding of this.. there is more in what is not said than what is said-- when we speak we create and thus this makes it not robbery to be equal with God, as God spoke things into existence, and so do we in speaking words. So is it also possible to resurrect the words spoken and give them new meanings or intentions, instead of them being a serpent?

serpents are beautiful creatures. the problem is not the serpent the problem is trying to make an image into all of reality. idols are bad because they don't in and of themselves have life in them. good things are meant to serve us, not dominate us.

as a creature there is always going to be more darkness than light due to God being infinite and this is for our delight. thankfully his utmost simple nature means that we also fully know him. he is both wisdom and love because he is all.

the seed is just as worthy as the forest. the serpent is beautiful when it is alive and ugly when it is dead. but zoom in and what do you see? tons of life having a feast upon a dead corpse.

the jawbone of an ass turns into the ass that saw an angel and the philistines turn into the children of God but perception is not everything because reality itself is everything. heehawww ssssiiisssss

ofc I can't think for or oppose someone in and of themselves... to me perception is equivalent to soul and so the very stuff it is made out of is the very stuff that God is.

Words of God continually bring forth, which is an entering into as the process of the word, via the soul found.

wolf and sheep are two sides of the same coin. the wolf tends to be very loyal to his fellows and they take care of one another and work together well. sheeps also cling to each other. sheeps are more harmless in some ways than wolves but sheeps are weaker than wolves are and more prone to do dumb things like get caught in brambles. wolves are wiser because they eat meat. wolves guts can also tolerate bad meats more than a sheep could. i'm no expert on sheeps but what do sheep eat but some simple vegetarian and milk diet?

it's not good to confuse all the different creatures and to call them a name that they are not.

in some ways wolves know sheep in ways that sheep can not know sheep because wolves sometimes eat them. on the other hand sheep don't know of the vicious things that wolves sometimes do in order to live, sheep can sometime be content to perish and give up quickly in some kind of divine acceptance of slaughter.

both knowing and not knowing are vitally important for the development of the soul.

interestingly when Noah's Ark slid down the mountain (some time after it came to rest) it was pierced by a rocky outcrop in its right side, ( which brought it to a stop or a second rest if you will ) whereas for Jesus after he had died his body was pierced in its left side .... which got me thinking about the ass jaw bone and how only half could have been used as an intact jaw bone would have easily split in two after the first strike ... so my thought is that Samson used only the right side of this jaw bone .....

a telling thing about serpents is ( which I stumble upon often when out prospecting in rivers for gold ) that entrenched in our phycology is a strong foreboding of them coupled with a mesmerizing fascination and this not dependent on whether they be poisonous or not because as a defense mechanism we tar them all with the same brush ... I mean I am no great expert on snakes but do have a rudimentary knowledge of them and when out in the bush will not pick up and play with one unless I am 100% sure it be harmless ... the thing is that I can be peacefully wondering up a river listening to birds and bugs and taking in all the splendor of the creation but the moment a serpent happens on this path/perception it changes in an instant ....

it is interesting that Paul having been saved by a centurion and then making it ashore and in the cold and the rain GOD still sees it fit to have a serpent bite him ...

on further thought ... Samson having an iron like grip and therefore it possible that he held this jaw bone intact whilst clubbing the heads of these Philistines and therefore both the left and right side was used ... this ties into the fact to the left and to the right hung/hangs a thief, seeing that the reasoning between the two slays the truth in us ( speaking of our perception of where we are ) which makes me ask the question is this possible to know ... for it states all things will be revealed

interestingly Christ's blood was sprinkled on the west side of the mercy seat whereas Moses would sprinkle the blood of beasts on the east side ... east being the right side and west the left side and in relation to gender the right side feminine and the left side masculine in relation to soul and spirit ...

I find this feeling of foolishness I get when having answered my own question enjoyable ...if that makes any sense

interestingly ( for a better word ) Christ had two nails driven through his right foot and one through his left foot ... the heel of his right foot held fast to his cross whilst the left foot fastened to his right foot which meant he pushed upon one heel ...

and thou shalt bruise his heel.