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Abraham gave up two sons, one he sent away, the other he sacrificed, which began to define what the son was to him, as it did for the city he looked for; a pattern.
 
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Abraham gave up two sons, one he sent away, the other he sacrificed, which began to define what the son was to him, as it did for the city he looked for; a pattern.
Agree and yet there is a lot here. allegorically we are to kick out the woman and her son, Ishamael. Which I have seen that Ishmael means mocking n one place and then God will hear in another, soo. And Hagar meaning immigration and flight. Yet to me this is the flesh rising up, with its chaos instead of peace coming down.
 
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Agree and yet there is a lot here. allegorically we are to kick out the woman and her son, Ishamael. Which I have seen that Ishmael means mocking n one place and then God will hear in another, soo. And Hagar meaning immigration and flight. Yet to me this is the flesh rising up, with its chaos instead of peace coming down.

Like all things, it speaks of process ...

Hagar is the first to name God ... who like the first earth labored to bring forth her firstborn, a temple formed by hands, of the dust of the earth.

The earthly seed names God; the heavenly seed names the place God met them.
 
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Like all things, it speaks of process ...

Hagar is the first to name God ... who like the first earth labored to bring forth her firstborn, a temple formed by hands, of the dust of the earth.

The earthly seed names Go; the heavenly seed names the place God met them.
Like Pineal?
 
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Like Pineal?

portrayed on some temples as a pine cone, hence pine/Christmas tree ... seat of the soul etc
Quite profound, considering it being the gland that produces melatonin that helps the synchronization of circadian rhythm and regulate reproductive hormones.

...Awake! Seed..
 
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Quite profound, considering it being the gland that produces melatonin that helps the synchronization of circadian rhythm and regulate reproductive hormones.

...Awake! Seed..
Yes circadian rhythm-- like in be fruitful, multiply and replenishing the earth.....cell regeneration..
 
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The Revelation within a single sound, or a single thought, or word, or image (as an Adam), becomes one drop in an endless river defined to us as the one we are; a river out of Eden, or river birthed out of pleasure (that moved for Jesus from a righthand of where truth is seated, to in my father's throne, to being the very life that flows out of it (my son, in whom I am well pleased) a very intimate truth (If indeed you can even use such a word as truth to begin to describe his person) ... which becomes more and more defined as the endless increase of the very person of God, as us; which from one place of seeing, is the only way back, as an anchor; an inward truth, which determines the reality of those things that are without us.
 
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The Revelation within a single sound, or a single thought, or word, or image (as an Adam), becomes one drop in an endless river defined to us as the one we are; a river out of Eden, or river birthed out of pleasure (that moved for Jesus from a righthand of where truth is seated, to in my father's throne, to being the very life that flows out of it (my son, in whom I am well pleased) a very intimate truth (If indeed you can even use such a word as truth to begin to describe his person) ... which becomes more and more defined as the endless increase of the very person of God, as us; which from one place of seeing, is the only way back, as an anchor; an inward truth, which determines the reality of those things that are without us.

So much in this! The revelation of truth (to describe his person) can only become reality when it comes from within (inwardly)...a quality or state of being true/Truth. Flesh/five senses create/build an image out of 'the end', when it is actually back to the beginning we find our end that is without end.

In 1 Timothy 2 & 3 Truth of the house/dwelling place of God "is without controversy"(no more opposition/duality within)...the mystery of godliness..."God manifest in the flesh, justified in the spirit"...even speaks to the first Adam and what Eve truly means in our process/journey and the question "Where art thou?"

"Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time."

Mediator = intervention in a process or relationship
Ransom = payment demanded for release of a prisoner; obtain release
Testified = evidence or proof of something's existing or being the case; bear witness
Justified = cleared, acquitted, accepted
 
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So much in this! The revelation of truth (to describe his person) can only become reality when it comes from within (inwardly)...a quality or state of being true/Truth. Flesh/five senses create/build an image out of 'the end', when it is actually back to the beginning we find our end that is without end.

In 1 Timothy 2 & 3 Truth of the house/dwelling place of God "is without controversy"(no more opposition/duality within)...the mystery of godliness..."God manifest in the flesh, justified in the spirit"...even speaks to the first Adam and what Eve truly means in our process/journey and the question "Where art thou?"

"Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time."

Mediator = intervention in a process or relationship
Ransom = payment demanded for release of a prisoner; obtain release
Testified = evidence or proof of something's existing or being the case; bear witness
Justified = cleared, acquitted, accepted
Ya-- seems renewed mind is better than revival or reformation....
 
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We settle for so little of God in the way of relationship.

What is your beloved more than any other beloved is spoken by one whose husband is not her own ...

The two men are not unlike the two pastures ... which become the same one truth to those who follow on to know ... and in the saying only appears to be something separate, becoming proportional to the process, when it is a truth separate from self.
 
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We settle for so little of God in the way of relationship.

What is your beloved more than any other beloved is spoken by one whose husband is not her own ...

The two men are not unlike the two pastures ... which become the same one truth to those who follow on to know ... and in the saying only appears to be something separate, becoming proportional to the process, when it is a truth separate from self.
agree--in that God and man are one..
 
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We settle for so little of God in the way of relationship.

What is your beloved more than any other beloved is spoken by one whose husband is not her own ...

The two men are not unlike the two pastures ... which become the same one truth to those who follow on to know ... and in the saying only appears to be something separate, becoming proportional to the process, when it is a truth separate from self.

To KNOW the Truth, truly..."a truth separate from self" instead of the image that 'self' creates thinking Christ outside of them...while the mystery hidden in the Gospel - "Christ IN you"...

"For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."


"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord."

...may grow up into him...even Christ

The end of our faith takes us (back) to the beginning..."in the image of God created he him"
 
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