I don't mind being pushed around by authoritarians but I won't support them with money any more. the death of God leads to tyranny and nihilism. a religion that trys to control its fellows has become dead and dry. when there is no more ability for the spirit to be free in God then all you will be left with is a book and a shallow understanding of it. those who quench the spirit open the doors wide for satan to rule their lives.
I really don't know what so many are scared or concerned about. religion makes me sick.
FredVB said:God is in reality truly unknowable. It can be understood that from what is seen of creation there is one God who is the Creator. Yet we can know God, in the sense of a relationship with God, though knowing nothing of how God would appear to us should God choose to be manifest before us. It would be through the revelation of Yahweh, who is the one God, shown to us, with what is known of God through that, and it is made possible through Christ, indeed one God, as one being, existing though in three offices of function, and this coming through in the revelation that is shown, with unity as the one being without any conflict between them, of the heavenly Father, Christ who is Logos the Word with God who is God in the incarnation as the Son of God, and the Spirit of God.
jugghead said:Sorry to say this ..... but this statement does not make sense to me, if Christ Himself said "If you have seen Me, you have seen the Father" ..... how can we not know what He would manifest as before us?
You would know from that what there is that Yahweh God revealed to you. But with God being the unlimited being of reality, apart from the creation, there is much more to God, and that you won't know. There will more revealed to you with you coming to God when you do, and that is possible with you knowing what you can of Jesus. Yet God is not limited to any expectation of how God would be manifested.
So true, and the process from seed time to harvest becomes shorter and shorter.
So that's another meaning of "if He had not shortened the days", that is so cool
I use the example of either giving a person a million dollars or giving them a penny the first day, 2 cents the second day, 4 cents the third day, 8 cents the fourth day, and so on, doubling the amount each day for 31 days, which would they take?
Most would say the million dollars, but when you figure it out, the full amount after 31 days is $10,737,418.24, which I know you know as the word exponentially, which our heavenly Father describes as a double portion.
Totally love it.
There seems like there are very few here to talk to, very few that have begun to enter in to the realities of Christ in them.
Carnal minded is taken as such a harsh term, that in nature it becomes quite deceptive as a place where the good Christian can't possibly be; reminds me of the Pharisees when they said, are we blind also? As if pride has remotely anything to do with it. There is so much pretense, so many adversaries, so much polarization.
Interesting enough, there is a place beyond the double portion (the book of Job ends with the portion of one son), a glory before the world was, yet a present truth we live in.
The becoming of one son is part of the process.
"The heart already lives in what the mind believes is yet to come."
Hmn I find the end of the book of Job to depict the inheritance of Job's three daughters as the one factor changed, Job 42:15.....
Interesting enough, there is a place beyond the double portion (the book of Job ends with the portion of one son), a glory before the world was, yet a present truth we live in.
The becoming of one son is part of the process.
Hmn I find the end of the book of Job to depict the inheritance of Job's three daughters as the one factor changed, Job 42:15
It is all a process within that experience relates to. The friends of Job are just legalistics trying to play a role during the process of losing self. Has anyone ever heard of another child actually replacing the one who has died? No, they are separate entities altho the former went nameless. The inheritances placed on the latter 3 daughters is in the name Job 42:14 ; they became living stones (with a future) upon which a name is written (does God keep things secret from His friends?) Revelation 2:17 That explains the change in the woman but in effect Job's wife remained the same. Again is in the process of Adam (both male and female) wheither one sins with the lips or not, becoming the new Adam. The pivotal door being for those who are learning in integrity to overcome. Just some thoughts for this morningMe as well.
I believe all of it to be a picture of the process in us, the different components reflecting the interaction of what they depict; the sum of it (which is relative) being about the end of Job, who gets knew children (the pivoting door (in reference to what a door is in scripture), the three daughters) and what these numerically represent, of the process in us), but not a new wife.
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