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You have to be one with truth to understand truth, outside of this is the constant struggle our soul (when living) sends us through to find what we already have had from the beginning.

I walk towards others with no partiality in respect to this, they are all one to me.

Each earth is in it's seasons until all things are seen by them as fulfilled in them. Most times words are not necessary. To walk in the liberty of truth is to walk in the meekness of judgment that is unto victory.

I am so far removed from where most people are that I find the communion with my Father the only real thing I have. To walk with my father in his garden in the spirit of the day is not something I desire, it is something that I live, it is something that I am.

It is not of a simplicity, but a singleness, like the singleness of the cross is to the one who desires to be taught of God.

It's funny ... if I just peek at the words in the Bible the knowledge that flows like a river is like the stars when the Enterprise goes to warp speed. One glance at a single word is to an overflowing. The stranger thing (of which I never tire of) is when others speak to me (whether I know them or not) the same thing happens.

I find myself becoming more and more quite.
 
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You have to be one with truth to understand truth, outside of this is the constant struggle our soul (when living) sends us through to find what we already have had from the beginning.

I walk towards others with no partiality in respect to this, they are all one to me.

Each earth is in it's seasons until all things are seen by them as fulfilled in them. Most times words are not necessary. To walk in the liberty of truth is to walk in the meekness of judgment that is unto victory.

I am so far removed from where most people are that I find the communion with my Father the only real thing I have. To walk with my father in his garden in the spirit of the day is not something I desire, it is something that I live, it is something that I am.

It is not of a simplicity, but a singleness, like the singleness of the cross is to the one who desires to be taught of God.

It's funny ... if I just peek at the words in the Bible the knowledge that flows like a river is like the stars when the Enterprise goes to warp speed. One glance at a single word is to an overflowing. The stranger thing (of which I never tire of) is when others speak to me (whether I know them or not) the same thing happens.

I find myself becoming more and more quite.

Yes but lets talk about the simplicity that of following Christ as it pertains to instructions. If someone asks you about how to follow Christ and you give them that stuff which you are talking about then it wont help them.

What did the Apostles sound like?
 
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Yes but lets talk about the simplicity that of following Christ as it pertains to instructions. If someone asks you about how to follow Christ and you give them that stuff which you are talking about then it wont help them.

What did the Apostles sound like?

Actually that is not true, (I have one friend I met two years ago when he came to work for me, after three days I cornered him, but I came as a thief, I spoke from where he was and he became right before my eyes, even now as I say this I sense the purpose or state of being of our Father/Life in all things) this fellow had never read a Bible before and was adamantly proud of that fact) as was the commandment given to Jesus as to why he was born, a commandment he said was Life) if one picks up their cross one steps right into the truth of these things (for by this you do not limit God by opposing your self through your own reasoning's), for outside of a cross there is no way to be taught of the spirit; and I don't say this because it has not been my experience, I say it through experience in waking people from the deep sleep God caused them to fall into, being able to talk/fellowship with those who have never darkened the door of a church easier than the pastors of that church's door they have never darkened.

As far as the Apostles, people are still mostly in confusion, and divided over what they have said still over two thousand years later, (just as the Jews were over the law of Moses) which is apparent by the fruit that has come of it.
 
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Actually that is not true, (I have one friend I met two years ago when he came to work for me, after three days I cornered him, but I came as a thief, I spoke from where he was and he became right before my eyes, even now as I say this I sense the purpose or state of being of our Father/Life in all things) this fellow had never read a Bible before and was adamantly proud of that fact) as was the commandment given to Jesus as to why he was born, a commandment he said was Life) if one picks up their cross one steps right into the truth of these things (for by this you do not limit God by opposing your self through your own reasoning's), for outside of a cross there is no way to be taught of the spirit; and I don't say this because it has not been my experience, I say it through experience in waking people from the deep sleep God caused them to fall into, being able to talk/fellowship with those who have never darkened the door of a church easier than the pastors of that church's door they have never darkened.

As far as the Apostles, people are still mostly in confusion, and divided over what they have said still over two thousand years later, (just as the Jews were over the law of Moses) which is apparent by the fruit that has come of it.

I'm not confused at all. I see the Apostles giving us clear instructions, God is not the author of confusion. And if they say something that i don't understand then it doesn't matter because i'm not God, He is in control, HE gets all the Glory, He is the one who gives and takes away.

Love and holiness are not confusing. And this is what God asks from us. We dont need to sound confusing to speak that truth. The Apostles were not confusing about those things. They may have spoke some hard to understand things but when it came to clear instructions they were not confusing at all.
 
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You are right God is not the author of confusion ...

Genesis 11:7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.

Jeremiah 1:17 Thou therefore gird up thy loins, and arise, and speak unto them all that I command thee: be not dismayed at their faces, lest I confound thee before them.

Isaiah 28:13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

Luke 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.

We are.
 
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You are right God is not the author of confusion ...

Genesis 11:7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.

Jeremiah 1:17 Thou therefore gird up thy loins, and arise, and speak unto them all that I command thee: be not dismayed at their faces, lest I confound thee before them.

Isaiah 28:13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

Luke 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.

We are.

Amen.
 
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God hardened pharaohs heart because pharaoh picked evil even though God only does good to all but God even uses our folly to help whoever is willing.

most people are not going to walk the path of mysticism because of the confused nature of the world but we will all go with God as much as we see that God is good. the funny thing is that the peace and harmony that real mysticism brings is a much greater one than what the superficial outer layers of my own religion have ever been able to produce and that is because being spiritual is a real thing for humanity and religion is an adaptation of the fallen nature towards that which it could not fully receive ( the Spirit of God ). obviously all the best and pure things in Christianity are due to the fact that God was with them.

Jesus himself said he wished for the world to be caught on fire by the fires of heaven and not hell. but not many see the heavenly fire that is the world because they are carnal and so we burn in hell in the fires of sheol... and so we are taught baby teaching of virtue and discipline and anyone with a pure heart that seeks God will indeed see God. God is not hindered at all.

the mystics warn everyone to not even bother with seeking God if you are not serious. they don't even want people to pay attention to them if a person is just going to ruin it like all the other times they tend to ruin Gods gifts. but still God keeps on giving everyone as much as they can handle and if they want more then they will search for God until they find him.

you would think that love is something simple to understand but it is amazing what some people think love is.
 
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and the prophets have a chip on their shoulders to the degree that they are very bothered by how the world is. Jesus had a huge chip on his shoulder even though he also had a great peace about him.

as Jesus said:

Matthew 23:37
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"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones God's messengers! How often I have wanted to gather your children together as a hen protects her chicks beneath her wings, but you wouldn't let me.


this chip on the shoulder can be a good or bad thing. I get sick of myself just as much as I get sick of everyone. I would have no chip on my shoulder if people would just stop being insane but they keep driving me insane. and it's all because we don't understand, all because we have not seen the face of God. God has forsaken us because we have forsaken God even though God never stopped having love and mercy towards us. God is not the problem, it is us. and despite how much people say 'they know that'... they keep on making problems.

one person wipes out a family and takes their land because they are evil and so good people have to take up swords and defend the innocent people but then this entire mess turns into more evil because there is no end of the tree of knowledge of good and evil without God and it is only because some of us do not love God who is good that we have created so many evils and made God out to be like fallen man.

theology and dogmas are good and right but peoples understanding of them are the thing that they REFUSE to admit to, they literally don't understand that they are confusing themselves with God, they think they know, they think God is simple and they think they understand love. and then they attach their own understanding to the purity of God and say "this is your God O israel, bow down and worship the idol made with the hands of men"

John 16:1-3 (YLT)
`These things I have spoken to you, that ye may not be stumbled, out of the synagogues they will put you; but an hour doth come, that every one who hath killed you, may think to offer service unto God; and these things they will do to you, because they did not know the Father, nor me.

Num 23:19-20 (YLT)
God is not a man--and lieth, And a son of man--and repenteth! Hath He said--and doth He not do it ? And spoken--and doth He not confirm it? Lo, to bless I have received: Yea, He blesseth, and I can not reverse it.

Num 24:1-9 (YLT)
And Balaam seeth that it is good in the eyes of Jehovah to bless Israel, and he hath not gone as time by time to meet enchantments, and he setteth towards the wilderness his face; and Balaam lifteth up his eyes, and seeth Israel tabernacling, by its tribes, and the Spirit of God is upon him, and he taketh up his simile, and saith: `An affirmation of Balaam son of Beor--And an affirmation of the man whose eyes are shut-- An affirmation of him who is hearing sayings of God--Who a vision of the Almighty seeth, Falling--and eyes uncovered: How good have been thy tents, O Jacob, Thy tabernacles, O Israel; As valleys they have been stretched out, As gardens by a river; As aloes Jehovah hath planted, As cedars by waters; He maketh water flow from his buckets, And his seed is in many waters; And higher than Agag is his king, And exalted is his kingdom. God is bringing him out of Egypt; As the swiftness of a Reem is to him, He eateth up nations his adversaries, And their bones he breaketh, And with his arrows he smiteth, He hath bent, he hath lain down as a lion, And as a lioness: who doth raise him up? He who is blessing thee is blessed, And he who is cursing thee is cursed.'

Isa 1:28-31 (YLT)
And the destruction of transgressors and sinners is together, And those forsaking Jehovah are consumed. For men are ashamed because of the oaks That ye have desired, And ye are confounded because of the gardens That ye have chosen. For ye are as an oak whose leaf is fading, And as a garden that hath no water. And the strong hath been for tow, And his work for a spark, And burned have both of them together, And there is none quenching!


Matt 5:21-22 (YLT)
`Ye heard that it was said to the ancients: Thou shalt not kill, and whoever may kill shall be in danger of the judgment; but I--I say to you, that every one who is angry at his brother without cause, shall be in danger of the judgment, and whoever may say to his brother, Empty fellow! shall be in danger of the sanhedrim, and whoever may say, Rebel! shall be in danger of the gehenna of the fire.

Matt 10:24-42
`A disciple is not above the teacher, nor a servant above his lord; sufficient to the disciple that he may be as his teacher, and the servant as his lord; if the master of the house they did call Beelzeboul, how much more those of his household? `Ye may not, therefore, fear them, for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed, and hid, that shall not be known; that which I tell you in the darkness, speak in the light, and that which you hear at the ear, proclaim on the house-tops. `And be not afraid of those killing the body, and are not able to kill the soul, but fear rather Him who is able both soul and body to destroy in gehenna. `Are not two sparrows sold for an assar? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father; and of you--even the hairs of the head are all numbered; be not therefore afraid, than many sparrows ye are better. `Every one, therefore, who shall confess in me before men, I also will confess in him before my Father who is in the heavens; and whoever shall deny me before men, I also will deny him before my Father who is in the heavens. `Ye may not suppose that I came to put peace on the earth; I did not come to put peace, but a sword; for I came to set a man at variance against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law, and the enemies of a man are those of his household. `He who is loving father or mother above me, is not worthy of me, and he who is loving son or daughter above me, is not worthy of me, and whoever doth not receive his cross and follow after me, is not worthy of me. `He who found his soul shall lose it, and he who lost his soul for my sake shall find it. `He who is receiving you doth receive me, and he who is receiving me doth receive Him who sent me, he who is receiving a prophet in the name of a prophet, shall receive a prophet's reward, and he who is receiving a righteous man in the name of a righteous man, shall receive a righteous man's reward, and whoever may give to drink to one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say to you, he may not lose his reward.'


Matt 11:1-6 (YLT)
And it came to pass, when Jesus ended directing his twelve disciples, he departed thence to teach and to preach in their cities. And John having heard in the prison the works of the Christ, having sent two of his disciples, said to him, `Art thou He who is coming, or for another do we look?' And Jesus answering said to them, `Having gone, declare to John the things that ye hear and see, blind receive sight, and lame walk, lepers are cleansed, and deaf hear, dead are raised, and poor have good news proclaimed, and happy is he who may not be stumbled in me.'


you see the truth is that God teaches us but for we the weaker ones have need of teachers that God fills (for he is the only real teacher) that we may understand until the day comes when we see the Lord for ourselves then we believe not because someone else told us but because he himself we see. it is VERY hard to understand some of the things God teaches without God himself letting us know. it is VERY easy for God to teach us but we have to be receptive to him and that means being spiritual rather than carnal, to not be a slave to the wisdom of the world and the perceptions of reality of the world and how it is but rather how God is and how we all work with his angels and in the heavens which we are all in right now and yet so many do not see and that is why they are carnal for they only perceive the carnal and so they receive the reward of the carnal but there is also inside of them children of God and their spirit crys out for a glass of water.

because walking in the spirit of peace is a reality and a constant experience that fills all of reality. because the wisdom from above is very real and the wisdom from below is very small and weak and dying and almost vanished but I seek to gather those that are dying on the streets but there are not many people that believe God anymore and they have replaced him with the idea of the modern world and the fearful past of fallen men and that God is far away even though he himself in the OT was there with his people. for he has no where to leave but we can be blinded from him because babies don't even know how to walk but they learn very quickly when you reason with them and they learn very slowly if you always mistreat them and then all they know to understand is how to be mistreated and it creates a constant cycle of torments and blessings until something huge happens, a big change, a death.

and so having proper nourishment and being treated by God rather than by men and not having the devil whisper into our ears what God is like we begin to heal due to God being our healer but if we are crazy and run away from God we have done a horrible thing to ourselves and to God for he wishes to make his deer better but his deer runs away in fear and wounded by her wounds she has made them worse by simply trying to escape from that which is good for her and so she must be sedated.
 
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so the most important thing is seeking God. to get as close as you can and no matter how much the devils try to kill you, you have to be innocent and with all you can you must reach for God rather than the evils. for God is our only hope and without him there is a very terrible place of tortures and torments and I did not know how bad that place was until I left that place and found a place where kind people stayed and who fed me instead of hurt me. because life is already the biggest hell I know of compared to what God gives to us.... if we would only stop being insane and mad with sickness and darkness and evil mixed with some good which kills you all the more because you start to confuse the good, the only hope, with the evil that is offered along side it.
 
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It seems good to stay humble and also to sit in silence and meditate on peace. This world is a battlefield.

Its hard to be humble in the midst of debate and contention. As Paul said, meditate on good and lovely things.



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I find that if we admit we have mental problems then people shun us, they think we are demon possessed or something. THey think having the mind of Christ means never having spiritual battles of the mind. BUt i think that once you have experienced these things then it doesn't seem so strange anymore, its difficult but not strange.

Are we not Christians too? Do we not hope in the Lord? Why should we be treated this way?

I wished i had a whole church full of people liker myself, people with problems who understand this suffering. People who love each other and put their hope in heaven instead of this broken world.

I believe in Grace, i also believe in living in holiness and walking in love. I believe in faith, love and hope. I may not have faith that moves mountains but i don't deny that its possible. I try to live in holiness as much as i can, i try to love others as myself.

These are not the beliefs of a lunatic or someone who is demon possessed. I'm just a poor broken man who needs love and hope. Thats all. And i do have problems, thank God i see that i have problems but surely they don't mean that i am less of a Christian.
 
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Jesus was accused of being crazy and of being demon possessed. likewise i think perhaps many of the prophets were accused of the same. God didn't like to call noble and respected men to preach the Word it seems. He liked to call foolish things to shame the wise. He instructed Ezekiel to walk the streets naked for three years. He also asked him to eat bread baked using human dung as fuel. Im sure John the baptist seemed crazy too, he lived in the wilderness and ate insects. I suppose that if those men could live that way then i can handle whatever my lot is in life. Praise the Lord.


1 Co 1:26 For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called. 27 But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty; 28 and the base things of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are, 29 that no flesh should glory in His presence. 30 But of Him you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God—and righteousness and sanctification and redemption— 31 that, as it is written, “He who glories, let him glory in the Lord.”[c]
 
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"And the Lord said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of Egypt, have corrupted themselves."

God disassociates himself with his people even to the point of not having been the one who brought them out.

This verse speaks to the process of coming to the true nature of God that is hindered only by our own perception of him.

The symbolism (found in the language of God ) in the coming out of Egypt is found in everything, as the path one must take to the understanding of the motive of the one who brought you out, which process is found in each of us.

He calls every son out of Egypt.

it is about the fact that many then israelites had been corrupted even before God brought them out of egypt, because there was a very great spiritual iniquity there in the form of deep occultism and systematic idolatry, remember how the clerics of egypt succeeded to make the same miracles that God made before them (with the rod become a serpent and the water of the river turned into blood, Exodus 7) - how powerful/mighty occultists they were?!, the problem was that many then israelites had been involved in egyptian consumptions sacrificed to idols, that is why they had had corrupted hearts and minds

Numbers 11:4-6 "And the mixt multitude that was among them fell a lusting: and the children of Israel also wept again, and said, Who shall give us flesh to eat? We remember the fish, which we did eat in Egypt freely; the cucumbers, and the melons, and the leeks, and the onions, and the garlick: But now our soul is dried away: there is nothing at all, beside this manna, before our eyes."

for that reason God was like compelled to pass them through all that reeducation in the desert for 40 years in order to break their idolatrous/heretical habits and beliefs, that is why God punished the egyptians so much and the egypt has later become a symbol of the spiritual iniquity in the form of occultism and idolatry

Revelation 11:8 "the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt"

Blessings
 
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It seems good to stay humble and also to sit in silence and meditate on peace. This world is a battlefield.

Its hard to be humble in the midst of debate and contention. As Paul said, meditate on good and lovely things.



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God does not call one to a debate, but to the end of their own reasoning (which the dying out of all the men of warfare by the wandering around in the wilderness (as a second forty/feminine/revealing of our nakedness) is a picture of as us, and the process we go through (a process we all go through), our mind being likened to an Egypt, a wilderness, and then a land (which is by no means the end of this truth in the light of what the land is in relationship to the feasts and the year that is not acceptable, and the year that is).
 
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God does not call one to a debate, but to the end of their own reasoning (which the dying out of all the men of warfare by the wandering around in the wilderness (as a second forty/feminine/revealing of our nakedness) is a picture of as us, and the process we go through (a process we all go through), our mind being likened to an Egypt, a wilderness, and then a land (which is by no means the end of this truth in the light of what the land is in relationship to the feasts and the year that is not acceptable, and the year that is).

I dont like debate, i like peace and truth. I want and need those things.
 
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it is about the fact that many then israelites had been corrupted even before God brought them out of egypt, because there was a very great spiritual iniquity there in the form of deep occultism and systematic idolatry, remember how the clerics of egypt succeeded to make the same miracles that God made before them (with the rod become a serpent and the water of the river turned into blood, Exodus 7) - how powerful/mighty occultists they were?!, the problem was that many then israelites had been involved in egyptian consumptions sacrificed to idols, that is why they had had corrupted hearts and minds

Numbers 11:4-6 "And the mixt multitude that was among them fell a lusting: and the children of Israel also wept again, and said, Who shall give us flesh to eat? We remember the fish, which we did eat in Egypt freely; the cucumbers, and the melons, and the leeks, and the onions, and the garlick: But now our soul is dried away: there is nothing at all, beside this manna, before our eyes."

for that reason God was like compelled to pass them through all that reeducation in the desert for 40 years in order to break their idolatrous/heretical habits and beliefs, that is why God punished the egyptians so much and the egypt has later become a symbol of the spiritual iniquity in the form of occultism and idolatry

Revelation 11:8 "the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt"

Blessings

I don't disagree with anything you said or how you applied it (with that having been said). The land one lives in is ones soul. It is a perception of self in relation to our Father. Where Abram came out of to go into was the same process seen in Israel, or in Jacob, or in Adam, or in Nebuchadnezzar.

It is very important to understand why the reduction (as you called it) was down to two in relationship to the second forty they walked out and how it relates to the ten spies which equates to the provocation wherein they provoked God (ten times) and how this relates to the law of our mind as a present truth to us.

Serpents define a path of steps to become like God where in one's nakedness is revealed. Moses was every bit this, but one that swallows all the other serpents, which is what it became to Israel not only in the wilderness, but the land as well, truth still being to them as something that was separate from self.

To throw it out there, Eve (not the woman) is the first picture of that Great City as the mother of all living.
 
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I don't like debate, I like peace and truth. I want and need those things.

We all have a constant need for the truth that God is, but the truth that God is, is an inheritance, or an exceeding and great reward that is a present truth to us, which truth our soul, as a garden not enclosed makes elusive to us even though all things have always been ours, which is why the cross is the wisdom of God, as to what this depicts with Jesus as something that referenced this first command as a way we walk this out.
 
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We all have a constant need for the truth that God is, but the truth that God is, is an inheritance, or an exceeding and great reward that is a present truth to us, which truth our soul, as a garden not enclosed makes elusive to us even though all things have always been ours, which is why the cross is the wisdom of God, as to what this depicts with Jesus as something that referenced this first command as a way we walk this out.

I don't think that the cross alone is the wisdom of God although it certainly is Gods wisdom. Jesus said whoever keeps his commands will be considered a wise man, and this would include the apostles commands as well. Paul says that we should not walk around like fools but we should instead walk in wisdom and understand what the will of the Lord is.
 
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yeshuaslavejeff

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Im sure i sound crazy but im not. Im surrounded by a broken world and it depresses me. I'll feel better sooner or later, im confident of that.


the whole world, including here, is broken and under a death sentence. it is beyond repair, and not meant to be repaired.

feelings, don't be led by feelings, but continue urgently to press into Yhvh ABBA for Himself, seek His Face, by grace and faith in Yahshua as He permits and as He Planned all along.

seek Yhvh. do what He says. remain in His presence all day and all night long (i.e. realize as He permits, union in Yahshua with Him and all ecclesia set apart in Him)
 
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