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This is Why Homosexuality is Wrong. . .

TheManeki

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Where do you hear what you believe. I take my cue from the Bible, and I listen to people who accpect GOD's WORD as true and suspect anyone who believes the Bible to be simply a nice story.
Then please explain these posts:

http://www.christianforums.com/t5882...1488&1475.html
http://www.christianforums.com/t5874...B%5D-lust.html
http://www.christianforums.com/showp...0&postcount=90
http://www.christianforums.com/showp...&postcount=138

These show literal translations from Hebrew and Greek sources of the verses some people mistakenly use to say "God hates teh gays," and indicate that your "literalist" interpretation has serious flaws. Please reconcile these for us in this thread.
 
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Except, I'll still listen to you if you can provide reason and evidence to support your position.

Granted, i have never seen you do that, but theres always a chance.
And as a poker player, I'd say the pot would have to be huge for you to place any kind of money on those odds...
 
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Where do you hear what you believe. I take my cue from the Bible, and I listen to people who accpect GOD's WORD as true and suspect anyone who believes the Bible to be simply a nice story.


I'm gay so I'm kinda an expert on these things.:cool:

I understand that you believe that homosexuality is a sin and all that. But I was psecifically asking you where you heard that gay people go into relaitonships because someone is manipulating them? I'm pretty sure that wasn't in the bible.

Then don't have sex with another man------ever.... Prove me wrong. Ask GOD to lead you where you need to be and turn not from that leading. Why do you want a guy? Do you want him to take care of you? .Do you want him to take the lead? It is going to take GOD impowered character to move beyond such nothings or you will wallow in sexual manipulation and control.

If he doesn't believe thats it wrong why does he have to prove it by doing that? How do we know your relationship isn't based on lust? Why don't you abstain from your wife? Its ridiculous.

People have said repeatedly why gay people want to into relationships in the thread and its for the same reason straight people do.
But agian, you choose to ignore that.

What is love to you? How do you define it? Wouldn't you sacrifice anything for your wife? Don't you want to see her happy? I assume that you do. I would want the same things for my own.
 
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Believe whatever you want - but it is a belief without evidence.

Answer this, if you can - who was the first homosexual, and how did he/she learn to be that way?



Deviant sounding.



You have a rather uninformed and twisted view of human sexuality.
The pretty girl who is left pregnant and the man who finds that his one and only isn't, were as naive as you once.
 
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Then don't have sex with another man------ever.... Prove me wrong. Ask GOD to lead you where you need to be and turn not from that leading. Why do you want a guy? Do you want him to take care of you? .Do you want him to take the lead? It is going to take GOD impowered character to move beyond such nothings or you will wallow in sexual manipulation and control.


And what would this prove, exactly? I don't see any connection.

I have never had sex, and at my age I don't expect to start. Does that make me a better "heterosexual"? Does it make me a better "homosexual"? Or does it just mean that my hormone levels are low?
 
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I'm gay so I'm kinda an expert on these things.:cool:

I understand that you believe that homosexuality is a sin and all that. But I was psecifically asking you where you heard that gay people go into relaitonships because someone is manipulating them? I'm pretty sure that wasn't in the bible.



If he doesn't believe thats it wrong why does he have to prove it by doing that? How do we know your relationship isn't based on lust? Why don't you abstain from your wife? Its ridiculous.

People have said repeatedly why gay people want to into relationships in the thread and its for the same reason straight people do.
But agian, you choose to ignore that.

What is love to you? How do you define it? Wouldn't you sacrifice anything for your wife? Don't you want to see her happy? I assume that you do. I would want the same things for my own.
Why do some people want to have sex with animals? Why do some people take pleasure in raping others? Why must sex be about what you want and not what is best?
 
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Why do some people want to have sex with animals?

Humans are animals.

Why do some people take pleasure in raping others?

Because they need the feeling of exerting power and control over someone else.

Why must sex be about what you want and not what is best?

I'm sure a number of girls in ancient Israel would rather not have married their rapists, but that's what was best according to the Bible.
 
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Why do some people want to have sex with animals? Why do some people take pleasure in raping others? Why must sex be about what you want and not what is best?
Well rape is about power and control. I have no idea why people like to have sex with animals. But both are wrong because they do not have the second party's consent. People usually want to have sex with the people they love. Straight people do, gay people do. But what is best? I don't understand that. If its between two people that love each other and are dedicated to echer other, then how is it not for the best?

You seem to be concentrating to much on the sex part. I've made numerous comments on love between two people of the same sex, which you have been ignoring. Does that mean you are unable to refute that claim?
 
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Why do some people want to have sex with animals?
I haven't seen your wife. :D Seriously, because of the thrill of it? Because they can? Because it's different? Because they know they shouldn't?

Why do some people take pleasure in raping others?
I have yet to hear of a case where a rapist took "pleasure" from the act. Rape is an act of violence and dominance not one of pleasure.

Why must sex be about what you want and not what is best?
Why don't kids eat vegetables?
 
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Why do some people want to have sex with animals? Why do some people take pleasure in raping others? Why must sex be about what you want and not what is best?

Why must sex be about anything other than the people involved? Why are you so keen on other peoples sex lives? Why do you think you get any say as to what is best for someone else?
 
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Why must sex be about anything other than the people involved? Why are you so keen on other peoples sex lives? Why do you think you get any say as to what is best for someone else?
Why are you all so keen on changing my opinion? That doesn't make anything correct or wrong. I accept what GOD says in HIS WORD as the standard. I do not make up my own to suit my lifestyle.
 
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With deviate sex (fornication/adultery included), usually, one leads the other. The one who knows the ropes manipulates the other.

You state that so authoritatively. I'm going to assume you know this from personal experience?
 
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Why are you all so keen on changing my opinion? That doesn't make anything correct or wrong. I accept what GOD says in HIS WORD as the standard. I do not make up my own to suit my lifestyle.

so all the ppl who believe in god believe the EXACT thing you do cause it is his unchanging and erfect word you follow... that means there are a lot of liars or confused ppl and you might be one of them. in short yes you do interpret the bible to suit you as everyone does - you are not a conduit for god you are a small mortal trying to put some divine power behind your outdated ideas.. grow up.
 
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Sex is/was CREATED by GOD for procreation The married couple in the act of procreating may enjoy the act That act; however, was created for a husband and wife to participate in, with an understanding, that GOD may use that act to bring a child into the world. Homosexuality has NEVER been so blessed of GOD.
Got a bible quote to back this up, or are you just making stuff up to support your anti-gay agenda?
 
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