This is Pathetic

[*Starlight*]

As I said before, it is not the parts that are unclear that I believe those who want to remain in their sins are having trouble understanding.

Is it really so hard to believe that someone else can honestly understand some piece of text in a different way that you do? People are different.

 

[IamRedeemed]

Sin is short lived. Eternity is forever.

Well, 2000 years of oppression is sad too.

 

[IamRedeemed]

There is not one person here that has "explained those verses away" yet. They are not being interpreted differently, they are being IGNORED. That's the difference.

Is it really so hard to believe that someone else can honestly understand some piece of text in a different way that you do? People are different.

 

[Floatingaxe]

The Bible says that the whole law can be summed up as "love your neighbor as yourself". It seems that it's the spirit of the law. Homosexual relationship doesn't break that in any way.

Well, since homosexual and heterosexual relationships are the same, then there's love in both kinds of relationships.

Hahaha! I just spit out my coffee!

Wow, has someone got God's command to love confused!

 

[IamRedeemed]

It is wrong to force someone to never marry and remain celibate. Such as the Roman Church does to their Priests, which is against what the Bible says.

But an unmarried person is to remain pure and undefiled.

If God's purpose for every person is to "be fruitful and multiply", then celibacy would be just as bad as homosexuality. But if you don't believe that celibacy is bad, then it's illogical to use this argument against homosexuality.

 

[*Starlight*]

There is not one person here that has "explained those verses away" yet. They are not being interpreted differently, they are being IGNORED. That's the difference.

But there have been people in this thread who explained these verses in a different way than you do, without ignoring them.

Hahaha! I just spit put my coffee!

Wow, has someone got God's command to love confused!

Why?

 

[Floatingaxe]

If God's purpose for every person is to "be fruitful and multiply", then celibacy would be just as bad as homosexuality. But if you don't believe that celibacy is bad, then it's illogical to use this argument against homosexuality.

heehee!

I'm sorry, but that one is a real dilly!

Celibacy is a choice one makes, offered to the people of God, by God--it's in the Word-- to deny oneself the pleasures of sexual intercourse in favour of devoting one's whole being to serving God.

The only time it could be deemed sinful is if one is choosing it foir personal reasons, abandoning their normal sex drive for psychological reasons. If God hasn't asked you to do it, don't, or trouble will result.

It has NOTHING whatsoever to do with the fact that homosexuality is an aberration.

 

[IamRedeemed]

Hi girl!

I'll say. They forgot the very FIRST commandment!!

Matthew 22:37-40
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
This is the first and great commandment.

And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Are we not loving our neighbor as ourself by showing them the truth, so that like ourselves, they won't perish eternally?

Hahaha! I just spit put my coffee!

Wow, has someone got God's command to love confused!

 

[IamRedeemed]

And whom God loves He corrects, and those who refuse the correction of His love are cast into the fire and burned.

I disagree with you opinion... I believe that sin is something opposite to love, so love can't be sinful, in the same was as light can't be black

 

[*Starlight*]

This thread is getting really weird. Well, it was crazy from the first post, so I shouldn't really expect anything else...

 

[IamRedeemed]

Homosexuality didn't exist until recently?

So when Paul was writing specifically about temple prostitutes, he was actually lying and meant that the behavior of the temple prostitutes was applicable to everyone ever?

edit:

ContentInHim, please justify your statement that the concepts of homosexuality and sexual orientation, which didn't exist until recently, actually did exist back then.

 

[Floatingaxe]

But there have been people in this thread who explained these verses in a different way than you do, without ignoring them.

Why?

Homosexual "love" is not love. It is based on erotic love, eros, LUST, which is not what God has called men and women to have for one another of the same gender.

Filios, brotherly love, is the appropriate affection that same-sex relationships should be based on, and agape, or unconditional love.

NOT erotic love, which is lust...and a sin.

 

[*Starlight*]

Homosexual "love" is not love. It is based on erotic love, eros, LUST, which is not what God has called men and women to have for one another of the same gender.

Filios, brotherly love is appropriate affection that same-sex relationships can be based on, and agape, or unconditionaL love.

NOT erotic love, which is lust...and a sin.

Wow, I wish I had the telepathic abilities to determine what exactly other people's relationships are based on, like you do. But since I'm not gifted in that way, then I can't really argue... so, bye!

 

[Floatingaxe]

Wow, I wish I had the telepathic abilities to determine what exactly other people's relationships are based on, like you do. But since I'm not gifted in that way, then I can't really argue... so, bye!

That's right, you cannot argue...and FYI: Telepathy is a tool of Satan.


You need the wisdom of the Lord Jesus Christ to know. Christians aren't stupid people. They are favoured by God with discernment. Even people without God know what's right and what's wrong!

It's the depraved people of this world who go against the innate knowledge of right and wrong--conscience--and begin to speak highly of their sin and boast of it and teach that it is good and acceptable.

God warns us of such people.

Romans 1:18-32
But God shows his anger from heaven against all sinful, wicked people who suppress the truth by their wickedness. They know the truth about God because he has made it obvious to them. For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God.

Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn’t worship him as God or even give him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result, their minds became dark and confused. Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools. And instead of worshiping the glorious, ever-living God, they worshiped idols made to look like mere people and birds and animals and reptiles.
So God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies. They traded the truth about God for a lie. So they worshiped and served the things God created instead of the Creator himself, who is worthy of eternal praise! Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved. Since they thought it foolish to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their foolish thinking and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, quarreling, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They invent new ways of sinning, and they disobey their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, are heartless, and have no mercy. They know God’s justice requires that those who do these things deserve to die, yet they do them anyway. Worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too.


BYE!

 

[IamRedeemed]

Where?

But there have been people in this thread who explained these verses in a different way than you do, without ignoring them.

 

[IamRedeemed]

What you need is not in the form of telepathy, but in the form of the Holy Ghost who will lead and guide you into ALL truth and AWAY from deception.

Wow, I wish I had the telepathic abilities to determine what exactly other people's relationships are based on, like you do. But since I'm not gifted in that way, then I can't really argue... so, bye!

 

[IamRedeemed]

Amen Floatingaxe!

 

[ParsonJefferson]

Homosexual "love" is not love. It is based on erotic love, eros, LUST, which is not what God has called men and women to have for one another of the same gender.

Filios, brotherly love, is the appropriate affection that same-sex relationships should be based on, and agape, or unconditional love.

NOT erotic love, which is lust...and a sin.

Ummmm... I'm really not sure you can say that.

Don't get me wrong: Homosexuality is wrong. The Bible is clear on that.

But I'm just not sure I can "know the mind and motive" of all homosexuals.

 

[Floatingaxe]

Ummmm... I'm really not sure you can say that.

Don't get me wrong: Homosexuality is wrong. The Bible is clear on that.

But I'm just not sure I can "know the mind and motive" of all homosexuals.

I think you can. They are not hard to figure out. They have the same wants and needs as anyone: love, unconditional, and nurturing. Something is lacking there deep inside them. Only the love of Jesus christ can fill it.

If you would think about your statement for a second---the same people who approve of homosexuality say they are no different than anyone else, yet you suggest that their inner motives and minds are impenetrable?

 

[ebia]

Homosexuality didn't exist until recently?

That's not what she said. She said (quite correctly) that the concept of homosexuality did not exist. No-one would understand the idea of sexual-orientation until hundreds of years later. Paul can talk about same-sex sexual acts because those were going on at the time. He can't talk about sexual-orientation (of which homosexuality is one type) because neither he nor his audience would have the faintest clue what he was talking about.