This Is My Fireproof Thread

[Conservativation]

I would ask even an easier question.

What was there even in the movie about being a better wife?

 

[Conservativation]

If her husband is actively unfaithful in body or mind (Matt 5:28), she needs to detach and distance herself from him- up to and including divorce if he continues following the little head... (see my posts above for multiple passages instructing her thus).

YES she should take responsibility! She should take responsibility to STOP subjecting herself and the children to "hell on earth". God is going to take care of her! The progress in society with good options for women to take care of themselves and their children is God's good gift and provision for women!

God has heard and responded mercifully to the cries of HIS beloved (and longsuffering) daughters!

Oy

 

[Luther073082]

I never saw the movie. Nor have I read the book, so I can not answer your questions. However, I did think about going. And it wasn't to "fix my husband". It was because it was a Christian movie and the church was promoting it.

However, when I read a book or go see a movie, it's not always with my husband in mind. When I watch movies like that (or read books) it's to help me change. To help "me" to see what needs to be taken out of my own eye. It's to help "me" understand him better.

It's not always about a wife being right and a husband being wrong. I'm sure 99.9% of us know that we are not perfect.

So after all of this fighting and arguing about the content of fireproof and if its not specifically designed for women to drag their husband's to fix their wives your answer to the question is. . .

"I didn't see the movie."

Wow

You are telling me you have been in here debating us about a movie that you havn't even seen!!!!!

Wow

Reminds me of a quote. . . went something like.

"Well I don't know exactly what happened, but obviously the police did something stupid." -- Barrack Obama.

 

[Psalm63]

It was her choice to marry him. She should have went to God before getting married(plain and simple). Sad how divorce is supposedly gaining ground here.

IF you read your own mail and obey it and I don't think you have anything to fear, Tannic.

 

[Luther073082]

Edited to add: I just read your very rude response to me above. Why the heck should any of us answer anything from you men when all you can do is be belligerent and put us down? Why do you think we would want to put ourselves through that? And who gives you the right to order us around to begin with? I am not your wife! (yes, thank God!) and I do not have to answer to a blankety blank such as yourself.

Why do we have to go through 10 pages of thread to get a direct answer to one simple question?

Don't dodge questions and I won't say you are dodging the question?

 

[c1ners]

So after all of this fighting and arguing about the content of fireproof and if its not specifically designed for women to drag their husband's to fix their wives your answer to the question is. . .

"I didn't see the movie."

Wow

You are telling me you have been in here debating us about a movie that you havn't even seen!!!!!

Wow

Reminds me of a quote. . . went something like.

"Well I don't know exactly what happened, but obviously the police did something stupid." -- Barrack Obama.

No, I have not been in here debating. I have been reading though. My first post was to McSribe and you guys took that as a chance to pounce. Furtunate for me I'm not in a mood to allow it and have back to defend myself each time.

And if you were keeping up with the thread instead of just wanting to argue and fight you would have noticed that I hadn't posted.

 

[Tannic]

Matthew 5:28 is two fold. It says the same thing to women as well. Should men divorce their wives for being unfaithful in body and mind? Instead of taking men through the 'hell on earth' that women love to put out there. Should men do the same?

 

[Conservativation]

Now Luther is a rude whatever.

Whats witnessed here is a similar dynamic that if it was a marital argument would , if repeated enough, end up with his being called an abuser.

 

[c1ners]

Matthew 5:28 is two fold. It says the same thing to women as well. Should men divorce their wives for being unfaithful in body and mind? Instead of taking men through the 'hell on earth' that women love to put out there. Should men do the same?

Tannic, does your wife put you through hell on earth? If so I'm very sorry. Fortunately not all women do. But most of us do expect the same kind of treatment that you men expect. We expect to be loved, honored and cherished. We don't expect to be belittled everyday of our lives and lay down at our husbands command.

 

[Tannic]

IF you read your own mail and obey it and I don't think you have anything to fear, Tannic.

Guess the picture represents how some women want things to be. Heh.... figures.

 

[Conservativation]

Thats right tannic, and any deviation from that is hell on earth.

Like when my 1 hour massage is up, its hell gettin off that table

 

[Luther073082]

No, I have not been in here debating. I have been reading though. My first post was to McSribe and you guys took that as a chance to pounce. Furtunate for me I'm not in a mood to allow it and have back to defend myself each time.

And if you were keeping up with the thread instead of just wanting to argue and fight you would have noticed that I hadn't posted.

I won't dodge this . . . you are in fact correct. . . my apologies on that.

However its still not correct of you to on a public forum post something like that and become defensive at the thought that anyone but McScribe might respond.

However we've been through 30 pages of dodging and avoiding the question overall and it would be nice to get a few women who've actually seen the movie to actually answer the question.

What did you get out of fireproof that made you a better wife?

 

[Tannic]

Tannic, does your wife put you through hell on earth? If so I'm very sorry. Fortunately not all women do. But most of us do expect the same kind of treatment that you men expect. We expect to be loved, honored and cherished. We don't expect to be belittled everyday of our lives and lay down at our husbands command.

No she doesn't but there was a time she did and I gave it to God and let him deal with it. All I see is bible being twisting to support people's view and not what it really means.

 

[Psalm63]

Guess the picture represents how some women want things to be. Heh.... figures.

The picture represents John 13 and what a Christian husband who is obedient to Ephesians 5 will be doing.

Tannic, I recall you didn't know about Eph 5:24. Is it just a lack of familiarity that you didn't make the connection to John 13?

(Sincerely concerned and not wanting to misjudge you or jump to conclusions...)

 

[Tannic]

The picture represents John 13 and what a Christian husband who is obedient to Ephesians 5 will be doing.

Tannic, I recall you didn't know about Eph 5:24. Is it just a lack of familiarity that you didn't make the connection to John 13?

(Sincerely concerned and not wanting to misjudge you or jump to conclusions...)

I might regret this.. what is this connection you post of?

 

[Psalm63]

Oh, and BTW, the picture I posted earlier is what MY husband of nearly 30 years does do.

(but I had to stop "wearing the pants in the family" and usurping his position as I did for 20+ years )

 

[JaneFW]

What did you get out of fireproof that made you a better wife?

Perhaps seeing the negativity of porn use and what it can do to a marriage on the BIG screen - something I don't think has happened before? - could help a wife whose husband is using porn to understand that all men are vulnerable (according to some men who have posted here) when it cames to female images, and that her husband is not therefore alone in his vulnerability. Therefore she might have better understand and more forgiving.

I don't know. It did nothing for me either way. But that's just me.

 

[Tannic]

Oh, and BTW, the picture I posted earlier is what MY husband of nearly 30 years does do.

(but I had to stop "wearing the pants in the family" and usurping his position as I did for 20+ years )

So let me get this straight?
Men do that and still have to battle this 'feminism' crap, selfish actions by some wives, what he/she/other party said or stuff(that hell on earth for a man)? OK..

What does a wife do than?

My point is this... I love my wife like Christ love the church so a lot of stuff women want these days are almost automatic with me. With that being said, I don't like 'false' crap and these unfair and unjust laws of the world that we live in. This 'feminism' sounds more and more like one woman's selfish agenda for woman kind.

 

[Luther073082]

Perhaps seeing the negativity of porn use and what it can do to a marriage on the BIG screen - something I don't think has happened before? - could help a wife whose husband is using porn to understand that all men are vulnerable (according to some men who have posted here) when it cames to female images, and that her husband is not therefore alone in his vulnerability. Therefore she might have better understand and more forgiving.

I don't know. It did nothing for me either way. But that's just me.

So after 36 pages of insisting that fireproof wasn't all about correcting male behavior you end with "It did nothing for me either way."

You are making our point. It can't do anything for you because it wasn't written to correct female behaviors. It was written as a movie to "fix the man, fix the marriage." And if the men don't fix themselves the wife might have an affair with a rich doctor.

 

[JaneFW]

So after 36 pages of insisting that fireproof wasn't all about correcting male behavior you end with "It did nothing for me either way."

You are making our point. It can't do anything for you because it wasn't written to correct female behaviors. It was written as a movie to "fix the man, fix the marriage." And if the men don't fix themselves the wife might have an affair with a rich doctor.

I never said it was written to correct female behaviors, so I don't know why I would need to prove any point whatsoever, but so long as I have made the point because you know I live to please all of the men here.

I have never said anything other than that I wanted to watch it because Caleb could well be my husband, and I wanted my husband to change. I don't see anything wrong with wanting my husband to change. I don't abuse porn. I don't flirt with men online. I don't flirt with male neighbors. I have never gone to have lunch alone with a man. I have never had to be "caught" behaving in any inappropriate, sexual manner with a man who is not my husband. My husband has done all of these things, and the misery of it continues to this day. So, yes, shoot me for wanting to have a better marriage, free of sexual sin.