It's not about woman's ministering to men. It's women who think that their sin don't stink and the perpetual need for them to rub men/their husbands sins in what they see as "divorcable" sin. They want to call one PORN and the other, cuddly, bunny, GODLY romance (cue the tears and tissue). Meanwhile, back at home they are using "tools" that are the equivalent to neutron bombs (that is that mens sin will cause a divorce or sexual reciprocity) to turn their husbands into their romantic "dreams". I don't need to draw many men a road map. To even suggest that this is going on is to draw the ire of every women who has a compulsion with their husbands sexual/spiritual well being while having next to zero interest in acting like Godly wives and protecting him from temptation (by having actual sex with him).
Somehow they have twisted the scriptures to transform their role as "PASTOR TO ALL MEN" while ignoring their clear ministry to their husbands. They want to make sure they are romanced before doing it, that hubby is squeaky clean, in short they MUST beat submission from their men with the only tool they apparently have left.
Evidence? Lets see,
how about when they role into a thread discussing a movie very clearly aimed at men and insist that it is a useful movie for men to watch.
This is what Promise Keepers was too. There were 2 main female camps about PK, one, maybe the more silly one, was that it was for men only and discriminated. Im actually less bothered by that because its so goofy. The other though was that PK was seen as another tool tnat was going to fix men, women had flurries of talks about did you know Jill's husband went to a PK and he came back and she says he is a changed man, praise the Lord!!!Que giant video of mucus covered husband who cant eek a word out through quivering lips and wife talking for him (imagine that) of how changed he was, how wrong he had been and how new his was now and how sorry he was for the past. One of many issues with bringing this up is the one predictable response is" hey cons are you saying men dont need to do better?"...sheesh please refrain thats never been the point.
Try this, imagine that video, with a wife weepy and the husband boasting how changed she was, how she was realizing her potential as a Christian wife, she was remorseful of the wrong she had done....it cannot even be imagined.
How abouts I start picking movies for women?
What motivates a woman to come into this thread and argue with men about the spiritual value of a movie clearly aimed at men? (Id like an answer to this question, because whatever is the motive is the problem here) What is their dog in this fight? I can see only one, domination. They are right and will confront anyone with another opinion anywhere until the cows are dead and in the ground. They are here to extend and confirm their rectitude.
How DO women get to be such experts on men's minds, saying :many men think this and that?"
When asked what THEY personally got out of this movie, how it made them a better Christian they dodge.
This question is universally dodged, and it doesnt seem unusual TO dodge it. In fact to even ask them what did they get personally is seen as an affront, a rationale for porn addiction, or some similar relativistic man sin vs woman sin thing. All the while the attempt is being made to hold each up to a divine standard, not against each other as men and women. But its via using men vs women, and the visceral reaction to porn, that that spiritual superiority and busy body babysitting of mens morality persists.
In fact that line of questioning has never existed in any group dynamic Ive ever seen. Please no one try and sell me on Beth Moore type women's conferences, those being compared to PK or Fireproof is beyond apples and oranges.
Why not go and talk about something that actually applies to you then? I've seen enough to know the futility of actually engaging certain ones here, that doesn't mean I will not keep posting however. While all of this sounds harsh I've seen a few throw out the red herring of Caleb's mother "doing" the Love Dare (see it applies to women too) while never remotely dreaming that they would actually do it with their husband. He's ungodly, he's the "leader", he needs to do it with me (or I'll leave),
I'll get him the book. Here hubby, here's a sermon YOU should listen too.
