This is ludicrous!

[ravenwolf]

Why is it that everytime a thread about Wicca is put up it ends up in arguing back and forth... I have a headache from all this arguing and not to mention the number of the same kind of thread with arguing about Wicca(i think I counted 7). Obviosly there are alot of people here that are too full of themselves and think that they are above all, and "how dare anyone have a different view". You know, I was happy at first on finding this forum because I thought it would be great to share and connect with those of other faiths and try to see eye to eye, and to clear up these crazy idea about wicca, but all I see here is condemnation and bigotry. All I have been doing is arguing myself in circles trying to defend my beliefs from these crazy accusations. I don't think I will be coming here anymore, it is too angering to see people that are so ignorant and intolerant of the diversity that is the human race. I'll probably linger for a bit, but i will not be posting to any of these arguments, I am done arguing.
Blessings
~ravenwolf

 

[Cerridwen]

Hey~

Noooo Raven..you gotta stay & help the rest of us . Don't worry about it, honey-I think some certain people are trying to convince themselves that their narrow views are right more than they are trying to convince us, lol. It's just a couple morons who are trying to throw around their "I'm right & you're wrong" rhetoric-don't let them get you down. we know what we believe is true & real & right....it's not our responsibility if they are too blind or arrogant to see it. Besides, there are some good good Christian folks on here, too...& they are worth talking to.

Love & Blessings, Cerridwen*

 

[ravenwolf]

Yeah, thats true. But I am not participating in these ridiculus arguments of "Christianity is the only way, and curse you, and hellfire, and blah blah blah" I will have nothing to do anymore with those conversations. If anyone wants to talk just to talk or SHARE beliefs NOT argue and put down, then I will gladly join in discussion. But then again, now that I realise it, all those christians before , like Lifesaver and a few others, I noticed they quit posting there condemnations and nonsense, so maybe its not pointless. I don't know, I just know I need a break from this chaos and these repetitive questions that I've answered at least three times and I still get asked them over and over again. I really dont like discussing something when the other person cant even get or rememebr what the darn argument was about in the first place...talk about nerve racking!! So for now I will linger...
Blessings
~ravenwolf

 

[Crispie]

arguing back and forth...

Isnt that what people call debating?


Are you forgetting this is a debate forum...lol. If you want to talk about your religion with other believers etc without a debate go to a non debate section.

 

[ravenwolf]

The topics of the threads i started were not about debating they were about discussing (debating AND discussing forum) and it keeps getting turned into a war ground. i dont mind debating, if it actually went soemwhere instead of a circle. it is not debating that bothers me, i happen to like debates very much...its the bigotry and the self rightoues attitudes that turn me off from debates and discussions. I will not talk to any one that has no human respect and thinks they are all holy and condescending, I will however talk to those who are human and equal in there approach.
Blessings
~ravenwolf

 

[Achichem]

Well, I for one would like to see you come back after a long deserved rest.

 

[Crispie]

Are you giving excuses not to debate with someone you have yet to prove against. (So far all your claims against christianity have pretty much been put down)

 

[ravenwolf]

I already made my arguments, and you just keep asking the same questions i already amswered numerous times. Your attitude is very condescending and bigotrous and as i already stated i will not speak to anyone who is hateful and condescending...i dont like feeling hateful vibes, and condescending vibes, its not a nice feeling.
Blessings
~ravenwolf

 

[ravenwolf]

(So far all your claims against christianity have pretty much been put down)

I made no claims against christianity! Quit putting words in my mouth that were never said.

 

[Crispie]

Didnt mean to post this yet, thought i pressed stop.

 

[Lifesaver]

I am aware I am probably high on your list of reasons, and I'm sorry for that.

However, I would also like to point that debates usually happen only in threads made with the intent of debating (asking Christians a question, making a provocation, something dealing with Christianity, etc). Others, like the ones about "sharing experiences", and which are usually without references to Christianity, go generally peacefully, and I do (and seemingly others too) avoid posting in them, for I know how tiring it must be for you guys to come to a place where you are having to defend yourselves the whole time.

 

[ravenwolf]

This the last reply to you Crispi.....
I stated that the bible was full of misinterpretation NOT to argue AGAINST christianity but to answer your question as to why I do not follow the Bible(the other reason being I dont believe in any holy book as authoritative) End of discussion.

 

[ravenwolf]

I am aware I am probably high on your list of reasons, and I'm sorry for that.

Apology accepted Lifesaver
Blessings
~ravenwolf

 

[radorth]

All I have been doing is arguing myself in circles trying to defend my beliefs from these crazy accusations.

I know exactly what you mean.

Rad

 

[Crispie]

i said i do not belive the bible is the inerrent word of God becuase of contradictions and misinterpretations

Thats you attack on christianity, saying its full of Contradictions and Misinterpetations. You can say your not going to argue against it, but no matter what you say that is still an attack on it. Ignore the last post since I thought I stopped it from posting, this is what I meant to post. Now look, when you state something like that, dont expect the person you direct that at just to take it knowing it to be a lie, they will defend the intregridy of Christianity and prove these "contradictions" to be false.

 

[Cerridwen]

She didn't attack Christianity. She didn't "attack" anything, she simply stated her opinion. Many people believe that the Bible was written by men & as such will have various contradictions & misinterperetations. It is often misinterpereted, as it has been changed & mistranslated many times over the years since its inception. It does contain contradictions when reading from a layperson's point of view & not applying one's own opinions to what it says.When it is read objectively, it appears contradictory. No one ever "attacked" Christianity by having a differing opinion about the supposed inerrancy of the Bible. Many Christians take the Bible for what it is-some truth, some metaphorical stories, & some political propaganda, but they try to live their lives by the example Christ gave. Bible worship doesn't equate Christianity.

Love & Blessings, Cerridwen*

 

[Crispie]

Opinions can go against Christianity. If I said that Wicca was full of contradictions that would be an attack against it, dont try minipulating the situation to being "just an opinion", even opinions can be attacks against a religion my friend.

 

[ravenwolf]

Opinions can go against Christianity. If I said that Wicca was full of contradictions that would be an attack against it, dont try minipulating the situation to being "just an opinion", even opinions can be attacks against a religion my friend.

no, it would not be an attack...it would be your opinion
Giving an opinion is not the same as verbally attacking someones religion

 

[ravenwolf]

oh, and you shouldnt have asked the question then cuz then you wouldnt have gotton my answer. Dont accuse me of "attacking" christianity when i was simply answering your question.

 

[HadouKen24]

Shame on you, Crispie! That's exactly what ravenwolf is complaining about!

Try ignoring them, raven. It's rude, but it's too stressful to respond to all the insensitive, ignorant remarks that some people make.