Wait! I'm uncertain as to why you're sharing that verse from John 4. Are you attributing that verse to a coming antichrist?I have already gave you the counter connection between Jesus, a prince in scripture, and the Antichrist who will be instead of and against Jesus the rightful King of Israel, coming in his own name.
Futhermore, 25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
Before a person is anointed king, is he not a prince?
Agreed. Especially when verses meant to be about Christ the Messiah are distorted to refer to exactly the opposite of Christ.Generally speaking the term antichrist is broadly misused.
Christ has made an end of sin at Calvary, based on the scripture below.
Heb 10:16 "THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THEM AFTER THOSE DAYS, SAYS THE LORD: I WILL PUT MY LAWS INTO THEIR HEARTS, AND IN THEIR MINDS I WILL WRITE THEM,"
Heb 10:17 then He adds, "THEIR SINS AND THEIR LAWLESS DEEDS I WILL REMEMBER NO MORE."
(Quoted from Jeremiah 31:31-34)
Heb 10:18 Now where there is remission of these, there is no longer an offering for sin.
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Because that doesn't mean what you think it means. God isn't stopping people from sinning (we have free will). He removed the penalty....He atoned for our sins. IOW....He doesn't hold our sins against us.Then why do people still sin? You do not make sense!
Then why do people still sin? You do not make sense!
Jesus made an end of offering for sins at Calvary. And He has ended the need for any atonement for sins at calvary, but He did not end sin! I don't know about you, but I can look out my window and it won't take me too long to find sin! Even in my own life- I have not reached that state of total sinlessness.
And while Hebrews you quote is definitely for the gentiles as well, remember the context. The writer of Hebrews is writing to Jewish folks who are struggling about receiving Christ! He is reminding them of the New Covenant god has made to Israel (not fully fulfilled yet) and that teh covenant was sealed not with the blood of bulls and goats, but the blood of Jesus!
Fulfilled.He is reminding them of the New Covenant god has made to Israel (not fully fulfilled yet) and that teh covenant was sealed not with the blood of bulls and goats, but the blood of Jesus!
He is reminding them of the New Covenant god has made to Israel (not fully fulfilled yet) and that teh covenant was sealed not with the blood of bulls and goats, but the blood of Jesus!
Because that doesn't mean what you think it means. God isn't stopping people from sinning (we have free will). He removed the penalty....He atoned for our sins. IOW....He doesn't hold our sins against us.
All this is fulfilled:
Daniel 9:24
to finish the transgression, to make an end of sin, to make atonement for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy place.
Red herring. Why does it matter what someone else believed or believes. We all have the SAME scriptures.This is the thinking of the natural man, which is incapable of spiritual discernment.
1 Corinthians 2
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Who in the historical true Church prior to the 19th century ascribed the work of Christ in Daniel 9, to antichrist?
Names, dates, sources, quotes.
1 Cor. 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.Speaking of people not making sense...
When do you think Jesus is going to "fully fulfill" the New Covenant?
Have you cut John 19:30 out of your Bible?
David H.J. Gay on the fulfillment of the New Covenant:
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There is ONE SIN Jesus could not die for. It is the sin people will be judged on.Hebrews 9:26
For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
1 John 3:5
And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
Sins, which are put away and taken away, are ended.
Many would disagree that every point in this verse has been completed.Because that doesn't mean what you think it means. God isn't stopping people from sinning (we have free will). He removed the penalty....He atoned for our sins. IOW....He doesn't hold our sins against us.
All this is fulfilled:
Daniel 9:24
to finish the transgression, to make an end of sin, to make atonement for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy place.
I am trying to point out the word Christ, the Jews equated with "the" messiah. "the" messiah in biblical background is the promised great King of Israel descended from David.Wait! I'm uncertain as to why you're sharing that verse from John 4. Are you attributing that verse to a coming antichrist?
1 Cor. 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
The Jews (Judaism) do not agree with the unmistakability of Jesus being the messsiah (an anointed) cutoff in Daniel 9:26."Cannot be mistaken" is not a "relative term".
Yes, I probably misunderstood your question. Nonetheless, the idea that the prince who shall come is Jesus either started with Matthew Henry, or was continued with Matthew Henry from others of his time, around 1700.Thanks. The link confirms everything I've been saying.
The word "antichrist" appears nowhere in his commentary.
The Jews (Judaism) do not agree with the unmistakability of Jesus being the messsiah (an anointed) cutoff in Daniel 9:26.
Do you know in a debate if you do not counter the specific arguments forwarded you are assumed to agree with them. The winner is determined by who won the most points. Points are scored by arguments that are not countered and by who had the stronger argument where there is what is called clash. Clash is when both sides present their best arguments on the same point. In every exchange with you on this topic there is never any clash. This post is your response to my presentation that shows the kingdom does come to earth when the LORD comes with His saints. The before and after picture is established. I showed the context of Jer 31 is the day of Jacob's trouble and that God affirms that Israel will not cease to be a nation and that God will not cast off the seed of Israel for all they have done. The LORD notes 3 times David is raised up and they all line up with the literal scenario.All attempts to separate the Church from faithful Israel fall apart on the Day of Pentecost when Peter addressed the crowd as "all the house of Israel" and about 3,000 Israelites accepted the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34.
Act 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Act 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Act 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Act 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Act 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
Paul reveals two different groups of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, and he was a part of the "remnant" in verse five.
James addressed his letter to "the twelve tribes", who were his "brethren" in the "faith" in James 1:1-3.
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The point I was making is that things some consider "unmistakenable" may not be unmistakenable to others.You are ignoring those Jews who did understand Daniel chapter 9.
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