Things to consider about the Ten Commandments

[VictorC]

You rejected Romans 7 where Paul explains that being bound to the Law and Jesus concurrently is akin to adultery

One can not violate these and get to heaven! True or faults?
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14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.

Provide your own answer, and reconcile it with promoting adultery on a public forum.

 

[from scratch]

False, absolutely false one CAN violate the Law and get to heaven otherwise heaven is all but empty forever and you, yourself are banned from being there.

Nah, one must first be subject it something to violate it. Christians aren't subject to the law.

 

[from scratch]

You cannot expect others to believe you haven't seen my response.

Telling me that you have it all wrong doesn't explain why you immediately disobey God's instruction to cast off the bondwoman and run back to it again. Perhaps the answer lies in the flippant comments you added to the bondwoman:

You run to the bondwoman for its prohibition against adultery among humans. But then you excuse idolatry and adultery with the Living God.
You have it all wrong, all right.

Idolatry to the created thing was the very reason the bronze serpent Moses erected was taken down, and this lesson was lost on you when you make the Mosaic covenant an idol to grovel before.
And...
Reminding you again of how Romans 3:8 condemns those who resort to flippant remarks identical to yours has already shown a long track record of failure with you.

I'd say that's choking on gnats and swallowing camels.

 

[Dunbar]

So the liars, thieves and adulterers continued to do the same acts in the presents of Christ?

Jesus told the woman caught in adultery to go and sin no more. The same thing he tells to each of us. But what you fail to realize is that all sin is the result of unbelief. You focus on the outward acts and try to create a well-behaved sinner. Sinners can look good on the outside don't think they can't but they are only deceiving themselves. Religious hypocrites are some of the worst sinners I have ever met.

 

[Elder 111]

False, absolutely false one CAN violate the Law and get to heaven otherwise heaven is all but empty forever and you, yourself are banned from being there.

Are you God?
How come what is said is false? That is the position as the bible teaches.

 

[Elder 111]

You cannot expect others to believe you haven't seen my response.

Telling me that you have it all wrong doesn't explain why you immediately disobey God's instruction to cast off the bondwoman and run back to it again. Perhaps the answer lies in the flippant comments you added to the bondwoman:

You run to the bondwoman for its prohibition against adultery among humans. But then you excuse idolatry and adultery with the Living God.
You have it all wrong, all right.

Idolatry to the created thing was the very reason the bronze serpent Moses erected was taken down, and this lesson was lost on you when you make the Mosaic covenant an idol to grovel before.
And...
Reminding you again of how Romans 3:8 condemns those who resort to flippant remarks identical to yours has already shown a long track record of failure with you.

I noticed that you can not reply to the Ten commandments when it is painted in light of your position/perspective.
It demonstrates how wrong it is doesn't it?

 

[VictorC]

I noticed that you can not reply to the Ten commandments when it is painted in light of your position/perspective.
It demonstrates how wrong it is doesn't it?

Holy Writ isn't subject to your paint job. The manner you posted was easily seen to be a deflection, incurred because you can't respond to what has been posted to you. And when you think about how you reversed the relationship of the Law keeping the recipients until the time appointed by God and then added your flippant remarks to the Mosaic covenant, not even you could not and would not answer your own question:

Provide your own answer, and reconcile it with promoting adultery on a public forum.

Fact is, you have no answer for promoting adultery on a public forum.

 

[Sophrosyne]

Are you God?
How come what is said is false? That is the position as the bible teaches.

No, you have to ignore the Gospel to consider such position. In other words one has to rip the New Testament out of their Bible to even start to accept what you are equating.

 

[Elder 111]

No, you have to ignore the Gospel to consider such position. In other words one has to rip the New Testament out of their Bible to even start to accept what you are equating.

The new Testament is in opposition to the old?

 

[VictorC]

The new Testament is in opposition to the old?

The new covenant is incompatible with the old covenant from Mount Sinai, as Hebrews 10:9 declares concerning what Jesus Christ did concerning the covenants: "He takes away the first that He may establish the second".

 

[Sophrosyne]

The new Testament is in opposition to the old?

Yes, in some cases it is as one cannot serve two masters and the Law and Grace are as such. Grace makes the Holy Spirit indwelling us our master while the Law makes stone tablets the master. In Grace one can decide upon things such as holy days and diet while under the Law one either complies with what is written or one is in defiance of the Law (Lawless, Lawbreaker, Sinner).

 

[Sophrosyne]

The new covenant is incompatible with the old covenant from Mount Sinai, as Hebrews 10:9 declares concerning what Jesus Christ did concerning the covenants: "He takes away the first that He may establish the second".

This is a scripture upon which the blinders are turned towards it by some here.

 

[from scratch]

The new Testament is in opposition to the old?

Yes Grace voids law.

 

[VictorC]

This is a scripture upon which the blinders are turned towards it by some here.

I've already had a long conversation with Elder111, where Galatians 4:30 demonstrates that those retained by the covenant from Mount Sinai (the Ten Commandments) does not convey any promise of eternal life to them.

That isn't important to him.

 

[Sophrosyne]

I've already had a long conversation with Elder111, where Galatians 4:30 demonstrates that those retained by the covenant from Mount Sinai (the Ten Commandments) does not convey any promise of eternal life to them.

That isn't important to him.

And others who relate the Law = Life and ignore it is a ministry of death. How can a ministry of death convey eternal life? There is a myriad of scriptures equating the Law with death that have to be blatantly and maliciously with prejudice ignored to consider such thinking.

 

[tzadik]

Yes Grace voids law.

Romans 3:31

New American Standard Bible
Do we then nullify the Law through faith? May it never be! On the contrary, we establish the Law.

Young's Literal Translation
Law then do we make useless through the faith? let it not be! yea, we do establish law.

Basic English Bible
Do we, then, through faith make the law of no effect? in no way: but we make it clear that the law is important.

King James Version
Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.


Paul, the Bible, God's Word vehemently disagree with you.
I'm sorry, but it is pretty crystal clear in the Word of God that grace through faith absolutely does NOT void the Law of God in the life of the believer. Quite the contrary. Until you see this, it'll be nothing but a broken record of "grace replaces the law"...

 

[tzadik]

And others who relate the Law = Life and ignore it is a ministry of death. How can a ministry of death convey eternal life? There is a myriad of scriptures equating the Law with death that have to be blatantly and maliciously with prejudice ignored to consider such thinking.

The Law is a ministry of death to those who do not have the Advocate!

Those who have the Advocate rejoice, delight in, meditate on, love, joyfully concur, serve and live according to the Law of God!

 

[from scratch]

Romans 3:31

New American Standard Bible
Do we then nullify the Law through faith? May it never be! On the contrary, we establish the Law.

Young's Literal Translation
Law then do we make useless through the faith? let it not be! yea, we do establish law.

Basic English Bible
Do we, then, through faith make the law of no effect? in no way: but we make it clear that the law is important.

King James Version
Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.


Paul, the Bible, God's Word vehemently disagree with you.
I'm sorry, but it is pretty crystal clear in the Word of God that grace through faith absolutely does NOT void the Law of God in the life of the believer. Quite the contrary. Until you see this, it'll be nothing but a broken record of "grace replaces the law"...

If you refuse to read and accept the book of Romans at least read my quotes from it and deal with those in this thread. Your intended meaning isn't what Paul says, implies, tries to sneak in the back door or means.

 

[from scratch]

The Law is a ministry of death to those who do not have the Advocate!

Those who have the Advocate rejoice, delight in, meditate on, love, joyfully concur, serve and live according to the Law of God!

and reject the new covenant, thus salvation.

 

[tzadik]

If you refuse to read and accept the book of Romans at least read my quotes from it and deal with those in this thread. Your intended meaning isn't what Paul says, implies, tries to sneak in the back door or means.

Romans 3:31 completes my argument for the Law of God;

namely that it doesn't void, go away, become useless, inapplicable once we come to faith. On the contrary.

Same message Christ taught in Luke 16:17 and Matthew 5:17-20 --the perfect, righteous, holy and spiritual Law of God will not "go away" until heaven and earth do---until then they are to be a delight to the Spiritual children of God!