I can not but fail to see what is a single thing positive about Seljuks - and their murderous empire.
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Perhaps Erwin is planning on merging with Belief.net? It seems to me (from what little I remember of BN) that there is no longer much difference, except here the forums are better.
OTOH, trying to join some of the other Christian forums would be next to impossible because many of them have statements of faith which would probably not align with EO.
Why do you insist on the Ottoman?
I fail to see a difference - a turk is a turk
I know you would never refer to yourself as a Christian. My point is that, apparently here in foru.ms, the thinking is that if one claims to be a Christian, no one should say they are not, even if they are... muslim or something, because this would be judging. My point was simply that this sight has fallen into such silly relativism (and I am NOT referring to the na.me) that now Christian can mean ANYTHING... which in turn means that nothing means anything now.LL, love the insertion of dots as per the new name of this forum.
Well, since I'm not a Christian, any definition of "Christian" based on what's true dogma is irrelevant to me, as is the term "true Christian". For me, the only sensible use of the word would be to refer to any religious group claiming to be primarily based on the teachings of Jesus. If they are non-Nicene, I'd just refer to them as unorthodox Christians.
You can ignore the pain but it's real hard to ignore that big monkey attached to your back... LOLWell, well, well........the FAITH section has now been moved to the top of the FORU.MS homepage!!!!!!!!!!
I guess all of the griping and complaining did something, huh?
What mess is this?what happened to CF?What stupid changes and what stupid name....
You can ignore the pain but it's real hard to ignore that big monkey attached to your back... LOL
Cool!Well, well, well........the FAITH section has now been moved to the top of the FORU.MS homepage!!!!!!!!!!
I guess all of the griping and complaining did something, huh?
What's the link to that thread? I'm blind and can't find it...My guess is no, or will be soon. Our good Emperor is being attacked in his moderator application thread for his comments regarding Mormon heretics. At least one antagonist is claiming the 'new' vision of CF is to disallow orthodox Christian thought.
If you'll pardon the comparison, that would be tantamount to making Adolf Hitler your avatar on a Jewish forum. The man sacked one of our greatest historical centers - he viciously persecuted our faith and way of life. He's offensive (and I don't mean this to be offensive to you - I'm fine with you posting here - but you have to understand how offensive it is to us).Actually it's Mehmed II. Who was far from as universally evil as Christians tend to portray him as. He's mainly known for the conquest of Constantinople, but was generally a very progressive ruler. Take a look at this, from wikipedia.
If you'll pardon the comparison, that would be tantamount to making Adolf Hitler your avatar on a Jewish forum. The man sacked one of our greatest historical centers - he viciously persecuted our faith and way of life. He's offensive (and I don't mean this to be offensive to you - I'm fine with you posting here - but you have to understand how offensive it is to us).
I mean, Hitler was considered progressive for his day as well (he was at the cutting edge of genetics, bureaucratic efficiency, and military technology / strategy).
That doesn't mean he isn't deeply offensive to Jews (among others).
That really gets me to no end. The application almost (if it hasn't already) has gone from me trying to be voted a mod of Theology, to a debate about Mormon theology and how it is not Christian by, what is now considered, Nicaean thought/standards/beliefs.My guess is no, or will be soon. Our good Emperor is being attacked in his moderator application thread for his comments regarding Mormon heretics. At least one antagonist is claiming the 'new' vision of CF is to disallow orthodox Christian thought.
-Taxing the title of patriarchPardon me, but what is this vicious persecution you mention? Conquering the Hagia Sophia was one thing, but other than that, as far as I know, he kept the Byzantine church very much intact, even replacing the patriarch who had sold out to Rome to save the empire, in a way saving the patriarchate from itself. As for the sack of Constantinople, promising three days of plunder was a military necessity to motivate troops - assault in a siege is a very dangerous business. He even stopped the sack after one day when seeing the destruction it caused.