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You can't claim that inflation explains things, and that inflation proves we can't explain things.
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"By Law" we have no idea what happened at t = 0 because the current laws of physics break down there! Inflation means that we should never know what happened there.
Yes, they are the same thing.The first lie is that anyone says that the Newtonian dark star is an actual black hole as in General Relativity.
That is their brand of logic. Anyone that questions their illogical ramblings and demands logic is a crackpot...You can't claim that inflation explains things, and that inflation proves we can't explain things.
Yes, they are the same thing.
You can change Wikipedia as long as you have good supporting sources.They don't understand their illogic there either...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_star_(Newtonian_mechanics)
"Dark stars are analogous to black holes in general relativity."
14 August 2018 SkyWriting: A "they are the same thing" lie about Newtonian dark stars and relativistic black holes.Yes, they are the same thing.
Very wrong, SkyWriting.
"By Law" we have no idea what happened at t = 0 because the current laws of physics break down there! Inflation means that we should never know what happened there. There are speculative theories and what I have seen is no beginning and no cause for the universe.
Wait, if there was no beginning, and nothing yet existed to measure, then why are you discussing seconds and minutes after the beginning????Strictly speaking, matter (atoms, protons, etc..) did not exist in the very early universe.
Timeline of the formation of the Universe. Volume occupying "substances" did not appear until the hadron epoch at t ~ 10-6 seconds. The matter era started at t ~ 10 seconds. Atoms appeared at t ~ 3 minutes.
You can change Wikipedia as long as you have good supporting sources.
14 August 2018 SkyWriting: A "...that inflation proves we can't explain things" lie.You can't claim that inflation explains things, and that inflation proves we can't explain things.
14 August 2018 SkyWriting: ""Inflation means" no such thing" ignorance."Inflation means" no such thing.
Looks like a repeat of a science is religion lie. Sceince is not a religion at all. There no faith (a belief in something even if there is no evidence for it or even evidence against it) science. Sceince is evidence based trust.It's not a religion for me, but we all place our faith in something bigger than ourselves and trust it is true and let it guide us.
14 August 2018 Justatruthseeker: Falls for a lie about inflation and adds an "illogical ramblings" lie.That is their brand of logic. Anyone that questions their illogical ramblings and demands logic is a crackpot...
You cited the crank Crothers PDF. That starts with this lie and ends with itThey don't understand their illogic there either...
No theoretical physicist thinks that a dark star is a black hole: dark stars are analogous to black holes in general relativity.It has frequently been alleged by theoretical physicists (e. g.[1, 2]) that Newton’s theory of gravitation either predicts or adumbrates the black hole.
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Since the Michell-Laplace dark body is not a black hole either, there is no theoretical basis for it whatsoever.
14 August 2018 Justatruthseeker: An ignorant "if there was no cause, there would be no universe" assertion.Come on RC, if there was no cause, there would be no universe
"By Law" we have no idea what happened at t = 0 because the current laws of physics break down there! Inflation means that we should never know what happened there. There are speculative theories and what I have seen is no beginning and no cause for the universe.
You cited the crank Crothers PDF. That starts with this lie
Dark stars are analogous to black holes in general relativity is that we can take a relativistic black hole and look back to see an analogous situation for a classical dark star. People who write gravitation textbooks list the history of gravitation and can include the Newtonian dark star. Being historically earlier than black holes does not mean that they predict dark holes. The prediction of black holes is purely GR.
adumbrates is correct (to foreshadow vaguely).
13 August 2018 Justatruthseeker: The rather deluded crank Stephen Crothers is not a credible source of science.
That is what I wrote. Dark stars are earlier in the history of science than black holes. They appear before black holes in the history of gravitation. They were not used to predict (Crothers lie) black holes.No, no. The Micheal Leplace Dark body predated any notion of black holes or general relativity.
GR is a theory of gravity with the requirement that it reduces to Newtonian gravity in the low gravity and low velocity limits.GR is merely an improvement upon Newtonian gravity, which it reduces to in the low gravity near field....
Yah, its been changed several times after I have used it as a reference to disprove their claims..... And you don't really need good supporting sources [citation needed]......
Come on RC, if there was no cause, there would be no universe...... And if there was no beginning, then what are you even discussing T=0 for to umm, begin with?Wait, if there was no beginning, and nothing yet existed to measure, then why are you discussing seconds and minutes after the beginning????
According to theory, he is right. I only challenged his request for proof.
The Heisenberg principal says that even the impossible will
happen now and then. The most probable will happen more often.
The heisenberg principle also says cats are not alive or dead until we open the box and actuate the probability. but don't get mad at me when the dead cat stinks up the room a year later......
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