There's something I want to do...

[Knee V]

Have your birthday party, just don't be a pagan or heathen about it.

 

[ThyLovingkindness]

I'm just here for reps... gimme those reps hehe

 

[OrthodoxyUSA]

Ever hear his rendition of "Secret Agent Man" on his guitar. Used to be up on youtube

...

Now i have it in my head.

Forgive me...

 

[brinny]

this thread is about a BIRTHDAY PARTY?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Have your birthday party, just don't be a pagan or heathen about it.

this thread is about a BIRTHDAY PARTY?

Just don't go the way Herod did

Matthew 14:6 But when Herod's birthday was celebrated, the daughter of Herodias danced before them and pleased Herod.

Acts 12:21 So on a set day Herod, arrayed in royal apparel, sat on his throne and gave an oration to them.
22 And the people kept shouting, "The voice of a god and not of a man!"
23 Then immediately a messenger of Lord struck him, because he did not give glory to God.
And he was eaten by worms and died.

 

[brinny]

is this thread seriously about BIRTHDAY PARTIES?

 

[Knee V]

this thread is about a BIRTHDAY PARTY?

Yes. The "dilemma" in the OP is the reasoning behind why the JW's don't celebrate birthday parties.

 

[brinny]

thanks for the clarification

 

[OrthodoxyUSA]

Maybe it should be 58% off. (Or is this one 59?)

Forgive me...

 

[brinny]

Just don't go the way Herod did

Matthew 14:6 But when Herod's birthday was celebrated, the daughter of Herodias danced before them and pleased Herod.

Acts 12:21 So on a set day Herod, arrayed in royal apparel, sat on his throne and gave an oration to them.
22 And the people kept shouting, "The voice of a god and not of a man!"
23 Then immediately a messenger of Lord struck him, because he did not give glory to God.
And he was eaten by worms and died.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Yes. The "dilemma" in the OP is the reasoning behind why the JW's don't celebrate birthday parties.

What can I say but, that is their loss

http://www.christianforums.com/t7406487/#post53089783
How will you celebrate the Reformation's 500th anniversary in 2017?

How will the Catholics be celebrating it?

We had a fairly nice 500th birthday bash for Calvin over here awhile back......153 pages LOL........

http://www.christianforums.com/t7382.../#post52293555
CALVIN's 500th Birthday Thread

Originally Posted by PujolsNonRoidHomerHitter

i'm having a t.u.l.i.p. cake.

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Tiny Tim - YouTube

 

[Rick Otto]

huh?

no complicated questions, please.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

This sounds to me like you are misunderstanding the Biblical facts, or do not have them correctly.

In the faith,
Clare

Originally Posted by brinny
huh?

no complicated questions, please.

Jesus sometimes asked the tuff questions

http://www.herealittletherealittle.net/index.cfm?page_name=Lazarus
Jesus vs the Chief Priests and Pharisees

Matt 21:23 Now when He came into the temple, the chief priests and the elders of the people confronted Him as He was teaching and said "By what authority are You doing these things? And who gave You this authority?"
24 But Jesus answered and said to them, "I also will ask you one thing, which if you tell Me, I likewise will tell you by what authority I do these things:
25 "The baptism of John -- where was it from? From heaven or from men?" And they reasoned among themselves, saying, "If we say, 'From heaven,' He will say to us, 'Why then did you not believe him?'
26 "But if we say 'From men,' we fear the multitude, for all count John as a prophet."
27 So they answered Jesus and said, "We do not know."
And He said to them, "Neither will I tell you by what authority I do these things".

 

[Rick Otto]

Have your birthday party, just don't be a pagan or heathen about it.

Is that possible? To call a heathen celebration Christian just because I'm Christian & I want to throw one?

See what happens as soon as everyone knows what the event is? No one cares anymore that heathens invented it, Jesus nor any apostles did it or approved of it, it only appears twice in the bible & both accounts are homicidaly dark.

Have your pagan party, just don't be a pagan about it?
We have met the enemy...

So no, I'm not JW, but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

 

[brinny]

Originally Posted by brinny
huh?

no complicated questions, please.

 

[Clare73]

Is that possible? To call a heathen celebration Christian just because I'm Christian & I want to throw one?

See what happens as soon as everyone knows what the event is? No one cares anymore that heathens invented it, Jesus nor any apostles did it or approved of it, it only appears twice in the bible & both accounts are homicidaly dark.

Have your pagan party, just don't be a pagan about it?
We have met the enemy...

So no, I'm not JW, but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Is wearing a hat in Scripture?
Or owning a printer?
Or taking pictures?
Or driving a car?

In the faith,
Clare

 

[Fireinfolding]

And Rick, being dead also doesnt always mean physically dead either (as I think you know). Can be shown that way too even as it can be true (literally so) in certain pictures they too can be compareable (somewhat) in other ways, I suppose it depends.

Contrasts can even be pointed out between "let the dead (spiritually so) bury their dead (carnally so).

Or for example, a widow (by the physical death of her husband) and the same widow living for pleasure being dead (spiritually so) while she (herself) physically liveth.

Shown in one who has lost a father

Luke 9:59 And he said unto another, Follow me. But he said, Lord, suffer me first to go and *bury* my father.

Luke 9:60 Jesus said unto him, Let the dead *bury* their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God.

And shown in one who has lost a husband

1Ti 5:5 Now she that is a widow indeed, and desolate, trusteth in God, and continueth in supplications and prayers night and day.

Verses...

1Ti 5:6 But she thatliveth in pleasure *is* dead *while* she liveth.

I suppose one could argue...

Ecc 7:1 A good name is better than precious ointment; and the day of death than the day of one's birth.

The concept itself is there

Phil 1:23... having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better:

Someone could argue its a day of honour to oneself and all of that too, so I suppose its not too far fetched. When Jesus speaks of what death Peter would glorify God (verses the other) glorifying oneself? If I am being fair in trying to see the othersides point of view, and how the same could be derived from scripture if (in fact) its on this point your wondering about. I believe every parent is overjoyed at the birth of their children, the question might lie more on the yearly celebrations (in honor of oneself) and the receiving of gifts (for each one, in that honour) yearly of the same maybe?

I suppose that could get quite expensive if you had 100 freinds and you were always tending to every party in the honor of each one and always carrying a gift to for that particular occassion for each one (if you think about it). Because then (in these days for each one) the gifts given on these ocassions usually arent for needs but wants (or pleasures, or desires) that type thing. For the most part (as I have seen) anyway.

Not always the case (Im sure).


Just pray about it

 

[Rick Otto]

quote=Clare73;Is wearing a hat in Scripture?

Apparel is addressed in several contexts, so in the general sense, yes.

Or owning a printer?

I'm not sure if any scribes were slaves, but I can imagine some were.

Or taking pictures?

Illustration in the general sense shouldn't be sensualy provocative and God seems displeased by "graven images", but apparently just ones that are employed in worship.

Or driving a car?

Solomon had chariots. Peter had a boat. Vehicles seem to be OK.

 

[Rick Otto]

And Rick, being dead also doesnt always mean physically dead either (as I think you know). Can be shown that way too even as it can be true (literally so) in certain pictures they too can be compareable (somewhat) in other ways, I suppose it depends...

Ecc 7:1 A good name is better than precious ointment; and the day of death than the day of one's birth.

The concept itself is there...

...the question might lie more on the yearly celebrations (in honor of oneself) and the receiving of gifts (for each one, in that honour) yearly of the same maybe?...

Just pray about it

Thanks. It's been bothering me since the first birthday party I went to. Honoring anyone in this format (annual birth date) is aping pagans.

Maybe if Peter had just thrown a birthday party for Jesus, I'd have a whole different outlook.

 

[Pastor J Dog]

No way, I didn't know parties were create by satanists. Ah man. Oh well. But I guess like if we claim it in Jesus it's cool. Besides isn't it more about remember how old you are or... but that's kind of depressing as well. Who wants to remember how old they are getting. What if we like just stayed 18 years old forever? If somebody gives me a happy 24th birthday card they never invited to my house again xD