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If one blind man calls another person blind, how does he know?This conversation is about you dismissing people because of the truth you believe you know. I'm against dismissing anyone because of what I believe because God can use anyone. Typical of you to say I am the one with the pride. But I understand...it's hard you see with beams in your eyes. Further conversation would be pointless. The ditches you imagine for others, you will fall into yourself. Watch.
Your thinking is utter hogwash influenced by the imagination of string theory and parallel universes. There is nothing biblical in what you have said, nor any evidence supporting your thinking.
The same thing was said about Jesus when he came to those who studies the bible and felt they knew everything about it. "Who does this guy think he is? Isnt he the son of a carpenter?" His explanations are different from our so it is blasphemy! Then off to the cross He went. And they felt good about it too...they were defending the Living God......or so they thought. Very dangerous to just dismiss ideas and people just because they mention things different from what you were taught or believe.I totally agree, where do they get it from
This assumption of Neogaia777 would have more acceptance if some kind of information supporting the assumption were given. But none is given, merely the assumption that these things are true.The same thing was said about Jesus when he came to those who studies the bible and felt they knew everything about it. "Who does this guy think he is? Isnt he the son of a carpenter?" His explanations are different from our so it is blasphemy! Then off to the cross He went. And they felt good about it too...they were defending the Living God......or so they thought. Very dangerous to just dismiss ideas and people just because they mention things different from what you were taught or believe.
Many testimonies of people who have "went there" or died and came back is the biggest support I have to this theory... Please note I said "theory" not fact (yet)...This assumption of Neogaia777 would have more acceptance if some kind of information supporting the assumption were given. But none is given, merely the assumption that these things are true.
Then share those testimonies. This is a Christian forum, not a New Age forum. If what you assume is true, it is not believed by the readers of this forum and you need to provide supporting arguments.Many testimonies of people who have "went there" or died and came back is the biggest support I have to this theory... Please note I said "theory" not fact (yet)...
God Bless!
Do not take this the wrong way, but if you have some issues why are you adding all of this craziness to the mix? No wonder you are confused by God. You are mixing the things of this world, with the things of God and expecting them to coincide.Many testimonies of people who have "went there" or died and came back is the biggest support I have to this theory... Please note I said "theory" not fact (yet)...
God Bless!
This assumption of Neogaia777 would have more acceptance if some kind of information supporting the assumption were given. But none is given, merely the assumption that these things are true.
I may be wrong in my understanding, but thought the point of the forum is for iron to sharpen iron. If a point of view is extraordinary, then to help others understand, reasons for thinking that way should be given.I dont think you should accept anything....I just dont think it is a good idea to crucify everyone who come speaking something that seems out of tradition, whether they be a carpenter or a regular poster. I never said i believed anything....and belief isnt my goal anymore anyway...I need to know. And only God can show me. You cant learn or be taught the truth. Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.
The OP would be wise to not tell everything he is shown, as the carnal mind cant understand the things of God. cant try to force a child to eat meat...they start with milk and move up at their own pace.
I may be wrong in my understanding, but thought the point of the forum is for iron to sharpen iron. If a point of view is extraordinary, then to help others understand, reasons for thinking that way should be given.
By the way, milk and meat, in my opinion, have nothing to do with doctrine, but refer to obedience. That is enduring hardship for Christ's sake.
That is the common understanding, but it does not pay close attention to what Paul said.Milk and meat, I feel, relates to a persons level of spiritual understanding. When you are on milk you learn the stories.....then you progress steadily, till you become the story. Each step being equally important...graduation by grace along, lest any man should boost.
Jesus says, "if you love those who love you, what reward have you?" in Matthew 5:46. So, I can see how Jesus desires for us to love any and all people, not to have certain favorites who are love idols. So, our Biblical hope is to see Jesus and all of our Jesus family, not only certain people.they were very loving and warm and kind toward him, and it was just a joyous and beautiful place, that he called "heaven"... But, it was "his" heaven...
I think you mean that each of us exists in each other person's perception of us. And how we are in each one's experience of us is unique, in each caseBut, that is not the only "him's" and not the one and only place he existed... He also existed in other peoples realities where they were the center of, he being in them/it, what they expected or hoped for in their heaven...
The same thing was said about Jesus when he came to those who studies the bible and felt they knew everything about it. "Who does this guy think he is? Isnt he the son of a carpenter?" His explanations are different from our so it is blasphemy! Then off to the cross He went. And they felt good about it too...they were defending the Living God......or so they thought. Very dangerous to just dismiss ideas and people just because they mention things different from what you were taught or believe.
I see different meanings when i read these verses. But I respect your opinion on them....and I also believed closer to what you believe in the the pass as well.That is the common understanding, but it does not pay close attention to what Paul said.
Heb 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
Heb 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
"Uses" is the operative word. Paul is talking about being a doer of the Word and not a hearer only.
Many testimonies of people who have "went there" or died and came back is the biggest support I have to this theory... Please note I said "theory" not fact (yet)...
God Bless!
I was vaguely aware of that, (the general principles of that) (Theomatics) (didn't know that's what it was called), but, thanks for the info and details...I have hesitated to post this but what the heck...
Perhaps you may have heard of Theomatics AKA Bible code. As you may know some ancient languages used the letters of their alphabet to reflect a numeric value. The Romans are best known for this. What perhaps is lesser known though is that both the Greeks and Hebrew languages used this same principle.
Let me be CLEAR. Theomatics is NOT numerology which is a sin.... Theomatics is the examination of words and phrases mathematically to see if there are parallels found in scripture. We know for certain that G-d uses numbers in the plain text and certain numbers have meaning associated with them as they are found repeatedly in scripture.... 70 for example is often reflected to mean the nations. 12 is associated with the 12 tribes. 7 and 3 are G-d associated numbers. 6 is mans number....
*But not only does theomatics give us confirmation of the Bible's validity from an apologetic standpoint. The mathematical patterns in the text will also reveal the fact that God never intended ~ in the eternal sense ~ that His Word be understood only by the rules of grammar and the facts of history (the common grammatical-historical method that all schools of theology strictly follow). The words of the Bible and their literal meanings are only the outer shell.
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