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There IS no gravity.

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Jump off of a sky scraper and then say gravity doesnt exist
when people dispute gravity, there not disputing this clearly observable fact. they are disputing that this effect has anything to do with the sun, earth and the masses or distances involved (the actual theory of gravity).

for example, if the theory of gravity were true, weights of objects would change between day and night as the force from the sun grew stronger and weaker (due to distance from the sun). fairly accurate instruments have proved (and can prove, if you are interested) that this is not the case. if gravity were a theory, its just been disproved. if its not disproved, its more a religion than a scientific theory.
 
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It was spot on.
Are you not getting that math only articulates upon presupposition?
Mathematic modeling doesn't adequately replace observation.
So may we then ask is every theory that contains math or sophisticated information true just because you think you understand it?
I think this is what you mean.

Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. Nikola Tesla
 
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Jump off of a sky scraper and then say gravity doesnt exist
You mistake the fact that objects fall down, unless in a medium that they are less dense than... with some mathematician that tries to explain it on paper but cannot prove that their "theory" is based on fact or reality.
 
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You mistake the fact that objects fall down, unless in a medium that they are less dense than... with some mathematician that tries to explain it on paper but cannot prove that their "theory" is based on fact or reality.

Nope ... gravity makes things fall in a vacuum too ...

 
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Jump off of a sky scraper and then say gravity doesn't exist ...

when people dispute gravity, there not disputing this clearly observable fact. they are disputing that this effect has anything to do with the sun, earth and the masses or distances involved (the actual theory of gravity).

So the force which pulls you to the ground if you jump out of a window ... has no effect on the sun, or any other bodies ?

What's special about your body ? How is it different from the earth in it's basic makeup ?
 
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These threads make me cringe.

This is the age of the skeptic ...

You don't have to know anything ... just deny that anyone else knows anything ...
 
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This is the age of the skeptic ...

You don't have to know anything ... just deny that anyone else knows anything ...

Or, realise that there are some people easily led into believing the unbelievable
 
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It is easier to fool a fool than to convince him that he has been fooled.

This thread should make you cringe.. we have been lied to and swallowed all the lies whole and asked for more.

Skeptics are the ones with the guts to ask questions and expose the lies.

Those that believe everything that they are told.. and teach it to others.. they are the ones to be feared.
 
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It is easier to fool a fool than to convince him that he has been fooled.

This thread should make you cringe.. we have been lied to and swallowed all the lies whole and asked for more.

Skeptics are the ones with the guts to ask questions and expose the lies.

Those that believe everything that they are told.. and teach it to others.. they are the ones to be feared.

You are very well known for believing the unbelievable. Flat earth etc etc. Some people just welcome any conspiracy story and dive head first into believing them.
 
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You are very well known for believing the unbelievable. Flat earth etc etc. Some people just welcome any conspiracy story and dive head first into believing them.
If you were able to comprehend written words of others.... You would realize that I am not a believer in the Flat earth... There are things that I still question.

Is a person, searching for Christ, but not yet saved, not yet prayed for salvation, considered a Christian? Of course not.

Would you present them as being one for agreeing with much of the biblical knowledge, even though they had not fully committed?

Again, of course not.


Yet... contribute to conversations on the FE and people want to stick a label on you... If you do not swallow the drivel that this world of modern atheistic Darwinian evolutionary academia is feeding you... then you are a heathen... damaged goods.


I'm sorry that you are so angry or offended that I comprehend all the errors in the globe model.

To tell you the truth... I can prove neither model...

Yet... you will stamp me with the FE label.. as if you have some God given right to tell me what I believe.

As if you have some higher level of intellect or knowledge.

As if you now have some reason to ridicule me....

How Christian of you.( read sarcasm )

As if this is black or white... open your eyes and get rid of your pride.. see the truth of what people are talking about here.
 
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QUOTE="Aryeh Jay, post: It is funny that when presented with a more sound and true theory, you resort to the tactics of the globe Earthers
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It'll be funny when it happens.


I am quite sure that you are just another round Earth supporter that is trying to steer people from the true truth.
Thanks, I love you, too. ;)
 
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Jack, look at your posts on any Flat earth thread!
If I see a topic that globe earth believers are presenting as solid proof of a globe, all the while it is not... I will not stand here and let it float by like a cork on the rapids...
If you can present me a "fact" of your own... not some regurgitated NASA based drivel that can be used to back both models... then do so.

I have my own points that I am working through. However, as of yet... neither model has smoking gun proof..

So, if you don't like it... Present something that stands...

I'm sick and tired of people thinking that it is either white.. or black.... In every issue there should be room for all the stages of grey in between.

Just like the person that is not totally convinced to become a Christian...

Who are you? Adamant that Christ is real... or Adamant that Christ is myth... There are always incremental stages to this as well.

Sorry that you believe that everyone should believe as you do.
 
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If I see a topic that globe earth believers are presenting as solid proof of a globe, all the while it is not... I will not stand here and let it float by like a cork on the rapids...
If you can present me a "fact" of your own... not some regurgitated NASA based drivel that can be used to back both models... then do so.

I have my own points that I am working through. However, as of yet... neither model has smoking gun proof..

So, if you don't like it... Present something that stands...

I'm sick and tired of people thinking that it is either white.. or black.... In every issue there should be room for all the stages of grey in between.

Just like the person that is not totally convinced to become a Christian...

Who are you? Adamant that Christ is real... or Adamant that Christ is myth... There are always incremental stages to this as well.

Sorry that you believe that everyone should believe as you do.

:doh:
 
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