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There IS no gravity.

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This is a figure for the Earth, where the mass being dropped is microscopic compared to the Earth, so that the gravitational effect on the Earth can be safely neglected.



No, you've gotten the physics wildly wrong there. If m is the mass of a dropped object, M is the mass of the Earth, G is the gravitational constant, and r is the radius of the Earth, then for an object dropped close to the surface,

F = ma = GmM/r^2

So that (cancelling the m's), the acceleration a = GM/r^2 = 9.8.
Last time I checked, gravity is STILL only a theory.
 
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Arius --- OK, I see the problem now and I realize that I probably have inadvertently contributed to it. In your post #55 above you cited a number of accelerations, one being 9.807m/s/s for Earth. This is the acceleration due to gravity at the surface of the earth. This would actually be an average over the entire surface because it varies a bit due to the earth not being a perfect sphere and the uneven distribution of mass in the earth. It will also decrease with altitude above the surface and depth below the surface. For example at 250 miles above the surface a dropped object would accelerate at about 8.68m/s/s. Going back to the 9.8m/s/s at the surface, this is actually the combined acceleration of the earth and the object towards each other. The same force of gravity acts on both the object and the earth but the acceleration of the earth is microscopic compared to the object due to its vastly greater mass. The acceleration of two massive objects, say a planet and a moon, toward each other would have to be calculated based on their distance apart and their masses. However if the two are at rest with respect to each other they will fall together and meet at their centre of gravity. This means that if the two were equally massive, they would fall together at the same acceleration and meet half way. I hope this clarifies the confusion.

After a bit more reflection on some of your past posts, it seems to me that you may be equating force and acceleration. The same force may be acting on two objects but the more massive object will experience a smaller acceleration. This characteristic is sometimes referred to as "inertia".
 
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Gravity is a fact. It can be measured using a torsion balance.

439px-Cavendish_Torsion_Balance_Diagram.svg.png

I have done this experiment. It is highly sensitive and takes 24 to 48 hours to complete. My first attempt was in the physics building at the University of Regina but due to vibrations produced by heavy traffic and on campus construction, I had to move the experiment to a remote farm house on the prairie.
 
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Being a flat earth person is so much easier than being an anti-God rounder. It is much more better to believe Bronze Age Scholars writing to goat headers and hunter gatherers and to watch you tube videos made by people with an agenda and questionable intelligence that fully explain everything than being someone that embraces science. Science takes us away from our primitive myth believing state that God put us in 5000 years ago. Plus if fulfills the persecution complex and we get to feel superior when mocked for our true and correct God proven Flat Earth beliefs.

BTW, the earth is really a four sided pyramid...
 
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Being a flat earth person is so much easier than being an anti-God rounder. It is much more better to believe Bronze Age Scholars writing to goat headers and hunter gatherers and to watch you tube videos made by people with an agenda and questionable intelligence that fully explain everything than being someone that embraces science. Science takes us away from our primitive myth believing state that God put us in 5000 years ago. Plus if fulfills the persecution complex and we get to feel superior when mocked for our true and correct God proven Flat Earth beliefs.

BTW, the earth is really a four sided pyramid...
Excellent mockery there, btw.
Questionable intelligence is accepting "science" that has been commissioned for profit at the expense of truth even a goat herder could recognize.
The arrgance of it is palpable.
 
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I have done this experiment. It is highly sensitive and takes 24 to 48 hours to complete. My first attempt was in the physics building at the University of Regina but due to vibrations produced by heavy traffic and on campus construction, I had to move the experiment to a remote farm house on the prairie.

Great, but how do we eliminate the effects of the entire planet whirling while speeding thru space?
You might claim it has no effect, but how could we prove that?
The germ theory of disease is also STILL a theory but I bet you accept that one.

Germ theory of disease - Wikipedia
And no surprise since most of what passes for science is a risky gamble if not outright fraud.
Another bet you might win is that you are unaware of alternate theories and criticisms of it.
 
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Excellent mockery there, btw.
Questionable intelligence is accepting "science" that has been commissioned for profit at the expense of truth even a goat herder could recognize.
The arrgance of it is palpable.
I will make a unicorn sacrifice for your blasphemy.
 
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I have done this experiment. It is highly sensitive and takes 24 to 48 hours to complete. My first attempt was in the physics building at the University of Regina but due to vibrations produced by heavy traffic and on campus construction, I had to move the experiment to a remote farm house on the prairie.

Awesome!
 
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Lol, the phenomena called gravity is a fact

Yes. It's an attractive force proportional to the product of the two masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them. That much is an empirical fact.
 
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Hey!!! I agree! In-fact, it is one of the reasons I am here! My journey led me down a path that the majority of the world scoffs at, but at it's heart, gravity is a lie, among many other things. So I came here to get some insight on a whole bunch of verses that seemed to...lean...toward my newfound Truth. Awesome! Yes, gravity IS a lie. A deliberate, and calculated lie...
 
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Did that theory take 500 pages to try explaining, using mathematics as a form of poetry? Newton did.

That is irrelevant to the truth of the theory.

Is every theory which contains math or information you dont understand false just because you dont get it?
 
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Yes. It's an attractive force proportional to the product of the two masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them. That much is an empirical fact.
That much is math.
The argument isn't about the description, rather what is being described.
See the difference?
 
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That is irrelevant to the truth of the theory.

Is every theory which contains math or information you dont understand false just because you dont get it?
It was spot on.
Are you not getting that math only articulates upon presupposition?
Mathematic modeling doesn't adequately replace observation.
So may we then ask is every theory that contains math or sophisticated information true just because you think you understand it?
 
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Excellent mockery there, btw.
Questionable intelligence is accepting "science" that has been commissioned for profit at the expense of truth even a goat herder could recognize.
The arrgance of it is palpable.

It is funny that when presented with a more sound and true theory, you resort to the tactics of the globe Earthers. I am quite sure that you are just another round Earth supporter that is trying to steer people from the true truth.
 
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