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Thank you, .. just as we all have, right?
Of course not, that's why I'm a FE'r. Also why I am stunned that you would stick up for the evidence of space that NASA, CERN and the hundreds of their franchises throughout the world throws at us, and that you would deny the evidence, or the lack of evidence of gravity in mass!?
"Despite the keen interest for science" ?? .. yet you still object to our FE claims? That goes hand in hand with the NASA mainframe computer universe that they tricked us to believe we live in. I'm here to debate science fiction which can't be applied to reality, like Speed of light, gravity, 8" per mile ^2 + curvature, all them sci-fientific notations, formulas, .. none of it can be used, or has ever been used in building a jet engine, or a space craft, or even a birdhouse. It's not that we can't, build/machine a satellite, but the only thing of that used is the digitized image of it inside their digital universe inside their mainframe computer. And of course the record of the cost of building it. No different than the detailed full sized, and miniature models that a neighbor of mine here builds for movies. Like this:
Now you could argue that those TIE-fighters are real, just as them satellites are real, and I would have to agree with you, .. especially having machined some parts for them. But once Mark Hamill jumps into the fighter, that's where reality ends and 3-D CGI-pictures and cartoons, and Luke Skywalker begins.
Same with rockets, they are real for sure, up, up and up they go, until they turn, turn, turn and fall back into the ocean, .. the rest is obvious. And since no man has ever gone to the NASA Computer Mainframe-space, and NASA knows no one will, no one can scientifically prove for or against it.
So what are we stuck with? Words, claims, like what that FTM lady Elon Musk said: "It looks so fake, it's real!" I mean come on buddy, are you going to defend an entire made up, computer generated universe space travel because of a few 'tangible' objects?
You know, I'm surprised NASA hasn't had Mark Hamill to sit in with the Apollo Astronauts to talk about space travel, I bet he wouldn't be confused when asked about; seeing stars in space, or not!?
Yes, you read the script, and seen the set up in videos and on paper.
Just as I said; "I bet Mark Hamill wouldn't be confused when asked about; seeing stars in space or not?", why? because he would follow the script. The same way that this Flat Earth debate refreshed your knowledge about the Globe script Nasa Sci-Fientists have produced. People are following a movie production, and the math, and other explanations that exist only in the NASA computer is your script. And you know that as long as you keep to the script, your safe with the billions of people who care less about looking deeper into it.
Now I'm sure you've seen this:
Now this would have never happened if NASA would have stuck with their plan. They created a Computer universe, they have tens of thousands of CGI art of planets, space ships, satellites, orbits of the moons etc. even a giant Moon replica for landing, Why then didn't they write a script for their Astronauts?
Matter of fact, if they already got people into believing that space, and space travel was real, then they should have hired stars like Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, Billy Dee Williams as their Astronauts. Just think how different this "press conference" would have turned out, and I bet there would be far les Flat Earthers too. Come on, you know how bad these NASA actors are, .. I mean have their hair permed standing up???
Well here, look for yourself, look at the fun and confidence these space heroes have:
time 1:50 Daisy Ridley even tells us what positive response they got for traveling through the galaxy!
So makes one wonder just how far NASA let the Astronauts go with what they actually believed was going to be a real moon trip? Did they actually let them as far as climb up to the top of the rocket and entered into the control chambers?
How long did NASA wait to tell them: "Look guys, we know you studied for years, you trained like hell and even risked your lives in some of the flight trainings. We know you said your goodbyes to your loved ones and so on, .. but here is reality; Umm, .. there is No Big Banged Space. You guys will spend the next three days in solitary confinement where you will come up with a story based on the info you've been given about space, and the rest you'll have to just 'wing it'. Break your silence about this lie and both you, and your families will end up in one of our concentration camps in North Korea! Thank you gentleman!" .. was it something like that? From the look on their faces, sure looks like it.
Things fall in a vacuum just like in air, even a feather. The vacuum is just another medium, which is lighter then air. Put a helium balloon in there and you'll see it just sit on the floor, means buoyance is still playing its part. Fill the space with a different medium like air, or water, the rate of FALL will change..
There is no gravity in mass.
Yet even you said that we could drop earth on Jupiter, and earths gravity would disappear! How is that possible? How can you claim gravity in your Globe in one case, then completely ignore it when it's challenged?
Again, there is no gravity in mass, that's why heavier things simply fall towards the ground all at the same rate.
So now you switch back and say; they DO have different 'forces'!? Only it disappears in the smaller objects when dropped on larger ones, is that right?
Just got to love the magical gravity, where sometimes it gets weaker, like once the space-rocket reaches the Karman line at 62 miles up they start floating, but if you go much farther, .. like 240,000 MILES, it can grab a 7,350,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 kg. object and pull it right in, like the massive Globes moon, which has to keep its jets blasting to orbit the globe so it would not crash down on us, .. right? I'm just trying to figure out all the special effects of gravity. Truly an amazing magical phenomena.
Yes you have been denying it. But now that you agree, why don't you write to NASA yourself as an engineer and tell them about their bowling ball/feather experiment, that the bowling balls g-force added to the earths should of fall faster then the feather!?
There is always a medium in any 'space'. Just that the airless space is lighter than one with air, helium is also lighter than air, water is heavier etc. and that's how buoyance works. Things fall faster in an airless medium.
Wow, cool, same here! Nice to meet someone in the same field.
So you remember the first NC machines? My first was the Pratt & Whitney 3-axis tape reader NC. I remember how worried it made the older German General machinists (Germans were the best machinists in my book) worry about the NC's taking away their jobs. Sure beat cranking the handles and having 5 to 20 set ups to do one part, right? Especially when my boss got the new Kearny and Trekker 5-axis, now that really made them worry. Even though after 25 years these journeyman machinist were still in high demand, especially for single piece work.
Yes, sometimes the tension, mixed with pride caused a lot of headaches, and hurt feelings. Other than that, time went faster with manual machining, or setting up, but got really boring with the 5-axis operators, especially machining the titanium impellers. Put the part on, 6 hours and 50 automatic tool changes later, just get up and change parts, and tools.
Thank you my friend, so you know, right? Once the Big company engineers and programmers got to know me, I was their man, especially with new jobs, and unproved programs. Even though new set up were always reserved for Day shift with the whole team of engineers and programmers being there, they would save them for me on night-shift with no programmers or engineers, since I could not only make correction in the program, but change tooling for better smoother performance, as well as fixture changes, or make my own.
Once my friend/co-worker taught me trig. I became the best, better than any Journeyman machinists who as you know used trig all day, 5 days a week for decades, and even better then a math professor who came for a few hours to get acquainted with he actual hands-on trig that you can't get in a classroom. (well, only for that one problem anyways) I'm not bragging, only hoping to show that I do have this natural ability to understand physics, and how things work or aught to work.
God bless you.
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