LDS "There are save two churches only..."

[Jane_Doe]

Very, very Mormon mindset.

It's the mindset of a parent, who is the closets thing to God-like love we humans will ever experience: you know that the people you love will make their own choices, know that some of them will be bad, and know because you love them you must not cage them.

 

[Rescued One]

Any being who robs another of choice-- ANY choice-- is a despicable monster. Any yes, that includes stupid choices, bad choices, choices that result in misery and to hurt, choices that refuse salvation. The being you describe-- one that forces salvation on people-- is an unworthy tyrant.


No, no, no. That's not how it works. You do not understand my beliefs at all.

I didn't come here to discuss individuals' beliefs. I'm talking about Mormonism. Do you believe in the Mormon gods? If not, why do you identify yourself as a Mormon?

 

[Rescued One]

It's the mindset of a parent, who is the closets thing to God-like love we humans will ever experience: you know that the people you love will make their own choices, know that some of them will be bad, and know because you love them you must not cage them.

Being set free is not being caged. You are apparently confused.

 

[Jane_Doe]

Being set free is not being caged.

Freedom is the right to choose, even if it to choose death. You advocate a deity who denies the right to choose and hence cages.

 

[Rescued One]

It's the mindset of a parent, who is the closets thing to God-like love we humans will ever experience

If a parent has no love for Christ, the child can't experience Godlike love, thus making your statement a false assumption.

 

[Jane_Doe]

I didn't come here to discuss individuals' beliefs. I'm talking about Mormonism. Do you believe in the Mormon gods? If not, why do you identify yourself as a Mormon?

Phoebe, this all due respect, you do not understand the first thing about Mormon beliefs.

 

[Rescued One]

Freedom is the right to choose, even if it to choose death. You advocate a deity who denies the right to choose and hence cages.

The truth sets us FREE. Don't you read your Bible?

Choosing death doesn't make you free.

John 10:10
The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

 

[Jane_Doe]

The truth sets us FREE.

Freedom also includes the right to reject truth and hence become caged.

Any deity who denies the right of people to reject them denies freedom and offers only a cage.

 

[Rescued One]

Freedom also includes the right to reject truth and hence become caged.

Any deity who denies the right of people to reject them denies freedom and offers only a cage.

Those who do not believe are already condemned.

 

[Rescued One]

2 Nephi 28
3 For it shall come to pass in that day that the churches which are built up, and not unto the Lord, when the one shall say unto the other: Behold, I, I am the Lord’s; and the others shall say: I, I am the Lord’s; and thus shall every one say that hath built up churches, and not unto the Lord—

Mormons who believe their church's teachings assume that they have entered the path to eternal life by being baptized.

1 Nephi 14
10 And he said unto me: Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the harlot of all the earth.

Doctrine and Covenants 1
29 And after having received the record of the Nephites, yea, even my servant Joseph Smith, Jun., might have power to translate through the mercy of God, by the power of God, the Book of Mormon.

30 And also those to whom these commandments were given, might have power to lay the foundation of thischurch, and to bring it forth out of obscurity and out ofdarkness, the only true and living church upon the face of the whole earth, with which I, the Lord, am well pleased, speaking unto the church collectively and not individually—

31 For I the Lord cannot look upon sin with the least degree of allowance;

32 Nevertheless, he that repents and does the commandments of the Lord shall be forgiven;

 

[Jane_Doe]

Those who do not believe are already condemned.

Everyone has the chance to reject God, and always will. From the never-believer-adament-fighter to the greatest disciple. God does not cage.

 

[Rescued One]

Everyone has the chance to reject God, and always will. From the never-believer-adament-fighter to the greatest disciple. God does not cage.

Unbelievers are condemned already.

John 3:18
"He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

 

[Rescued One]

God does not cage.

Satan does. But Jesus has the key.

 

[Jane_Doe]

Unbelievers are condemned already.

Satan does. But Jesus has the key.

You are not listening to me....

 

[Ironhold]

Kidnappers who exist in this world have NOTHING to do with this discussion about the clear teachings of the Bible. And I haven't said the topic is related to cults.

So you'd rather not admit that this practice exists?

 

[Rescued One]

You are not listening to me....

I don't agree with you; that's different than ignoring someone.

 

[Rescued One]

2 Nephi 28
3 For it shall come to pass in that day that the churches which are built up, and not unto the Lord, when the one shall say unto the other: Behold, I, I am the Lord’s; and the others shall say: I, I am the Lord’s; and thus shall every one say that hath built up churches, and not unto the Lord—

Mormons who believe their church's teachings assume that they have entered the path to eternal life by being baptized.

1 Nephi 14
10 And he said unto me: Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the harlot of all the earth.

Doctrine and Covenants 1
29 And after having received the record of the Nephites, yea, even my servant Joseph Smith, Jun., might have power to translate through the mercy of God, by the power of God, the Book of Mormon.

30 And also those to whom these commandments were given, might have power to lay the foundation of thischurch, and to bring it forth out of obscurity and out ofdarkness, the only true and living church upon the face of the whole earth, with which I, the Lord, am well pleased, speaking unto the church collectively and not individually—

31 For I the Lord cannot look upon sin with the least degree of allowance;

32 Nevertheless, he that repents and does the commandments of the Lord shall be forgiven;

There are only 2 churches according to Mormons: the true church and the church of the devil!

 

[Jane_Doe]

I don't agree with you; that's different than ignoring someone.

When you don't reply to a person in any regards that relates to what they're saying, that's not listening.

 

[Rescued One]

When you don't reply to a person in any regards that relates to what they're saying, that's not listening.

Give us the # of the posts I supposedly didn't listen to. Just remember that you must reply to all my posts.

 

[Jane_Doe]

Give us the # of the posts I supposedly didn't listen to. Just remember that you must reply to all my posts.

174 & 175. You replied, but it was not a response to what I said.