Theistic Evolutionist...

[AV1611VET]

We don't find evidence for a recent global flood. We find just the opposite. Guess the Bible is wrong.

That's because scientists came up with this "deep time" to keep their paradigms alive.

Without this artifical time, then "4000 years ago" would be "ancient."

It's all relative, isn't it?

That's one of the reasons scientists can't find anything.

They're looking for "recent," instead of "ancient."

 

[Loudmouth]

That's because scientists came up with this "deep time" to keep their paradigms alive.

They concluded deep time because that is what the evidence indicated.

Without this artifical time, then "4000 years ago" would be "ancient."

It's all relative, isn't it?

That's one of the reasons scientists can't find anything.

They're looking for "recent," instead of "ancient."

There is no evidence of a global flood in the last 6,000 years.

 

[AV1611VET]

We don't find evidence for a recent global flood.

There is no evidence of a global flood in the last 6,000 years.

How many ways do you guys have of saying this?

 

[Loudmouth]

How many ways do you guys have of saying this?

You were the one who objected to the word "recent". How many different ways do you want us to say it?

 

[AV1611VET]

You were the one who objected to the word "recent". How many different ways do you want us to say it?

It doesn't matter how many ways.

You've already admitted you can't find evidence of a recent flood.

To you guys, that means it didn't happen.

To us, a lack of evidence doesn't mean it didn't happen.

That's where our faith shines the brightest -- in the face of scientists who say otherwise.

 

[Loudmouth]

It doesn't matter how may ways.

You've already admitted you can't find evidence of a recent flood.

Instead, we find evidence for a lack of a global flood. Things like lake varves and ice layers show no sign of a global flood where there should be one.

To you guys, that means it didn't happen.

To us, a lack of evidence doesn't mean it didn't happen.

That's where our faith shines the brightest -- in the face of scientists who say otherwise.

As long as you remember to admit that all of the evidence is against you, that's fine.

 

[AV1611VET]

We don't find evidence for a recent global flood.

There is no evidence of a global flood in the last 6,000 years.

Instead, we find evidence for a lack of a global flood.

And the hits just keep on coming, don't they?

The Columbidae Gambit?

As long as you remember to admit that all of the evidence is against you, that's fine.

All of the evidence is against us.

 

[Loudmouth]

And the hits just keep on coming, don't they?

Your denial has no end.

 

[-57]

I do not believe in a God because of the Bible. The Bible is 100% man-made.

The is way too much fulfilled prophecy for the bible to be man made. It is overly obvious that there was a supernatural power that knows the fture that had it authored.

 

[Loudmouth]

The is way too much fulfilled prophecy for the bible to be man made. It is overly obvious that there was a supernatural power that knows the fture that had it authored.

It's not that hard to make the Bible fulfill prophecy when you are inventing the stories in the Bible. I could write stories about myself where I fulfill all the prophecies.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

The is way too much fulfilled prophecy for the bible to be man made. It is overly obvious that there was a supernatural power that knows the fture that had it authored.

All prophecy in the Bible is vague at best and just plain nonsense at worst. Any prophecy that has been claimed to be fulfilled is just someone either lying or is just hugely mistaken.

 

[-57]

All prophecy in the Bible is vague at best and just plain nonsense at worst. Any prophecy that has been claimed to be fulfilled is just someone either lying or is just hugely mistaken.

I'm chuckling at you naivety.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I'm chuckling at you naivety.

All right then. Enlighten me. Give me one prophecy that has been fulfilled (let's not go with anything past the Resurrection. That'd open a whole other can of worms). Just one.

 

[Neogaia777]

There is no evidence of a global flood in the last 6,000 years.

Then how come almost EVERY religion, including ancient ones, have a story of a global flood then, they're from completely different and separate parts of the earth, yet they have a global flood story, how come?

 

[Neogaia777]

All prophecy in the Bible is vague at best and just plain nonsense at worst. Any prophecy that has been claimed to be fulfilled is just someone either lying or is just hugely mistaken.

What about Daniels visions...?

Those came to pass just as his vision indicated, and that's just one, he prophesied several kings deaths through prophets, and they came to pass just as like what was said, and there are many, many others...

God Bless!

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Then how come almost EVERY religion, including ancient ones, have a story of a global flood then, they're from completely different and separate parts of the earth, yet they have a global flood story, how come?

Because almost every religion springs up in areas with large population centres, which would be centred around rivers. This would mean that these rivers would flood during heavy rain. Since many of these civilizations knew hardly anything about the wider world around them, they would assume that the whole world flooded when their population centres flooded.
And I have a question: if the whole world was flooded, and this was done by God, why is there no evidence of there being a flood?

 

[Neogaia777]

It's not that hard to make the Bible fulfill prophecy when you are inventing the stories in the Bible. I could write stories about myself where I fulfill all the prophecies.

But they would all be past tense, and therefore NOT prophecy, but history, and the Bible was written over a approximately 4,000 year period by forty different authors who more than likely didn't know each other... There are so, so very many prophecies that were fulfilled in the Bible, that, if you read say a prophecy about a king like Saul for example, Samuel, told by God, foretold exactly how he would die, and it happened just so...

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

What about Daniels visions...?

Those came to pass just as his vision indicated, and that's just one, he prophesied several kings deaths through prophets, and they came to pass just as like what was said, and there are many, many others...

God Bless!

How did his vision come to pass? Maybe you can actually explain how his prophesy was fulfilled instead of just saying "The prophecy has been fulfilled!" (and for fun, read the last bit in the hammiest voice you can. Trust me. It's funny.)

 

[Neogaia777]

Because almost every religion springs up in areas with large population centres, which would be centred around rivers. This would mean that these rivers would flood during heavy rain. Since many of these civilizations knew hardly anything about the wider world around them, they would assume that the whole world flooded when their population centres flooded.
And I have a question: if the whole world was flooded, and this was done by God, why is there no evidence of there being a flood?

Google "evidence for a global flood", and you will find plenty of "evidence"...

 

[Neogaia777]

How did his vision come to pass? Maybe you can actually explain how his prophesy was fulfilled instead of just saying "The prophecy has been fulfilled!" (and for fun, read the last bit in the hammiest voice you can. Trust me. It's funny.)

The beasts Daniel saw, and the image of the statue of a man, with a gold head, silver chest, ect... representing kingdoms that had yet to even arise yet... For example Daniel got to prophetically see the rise and fall of Rome, and the Roman empire, and how it would be rebuilt (in America, or more specifically the west), but Iron mixed with clay, representing the divided western world of today, all these things Daniel got to see, way, way, ahead of time