Theistic Evolution - A position

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus

If you are talking about Isaiah 14:12,
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Why do you have to start that sentence with, "If"?

Don't you know exactly what I'm asking?

If not, where does your lack of understanding come from?

The truth is, Satan wouldn't let Mr. Young write his God-given name, would he?

How do you know that name was God given?
Hmmm, this is interesting. My bro Young doesn't even use the word "satan" in his Bible version, but rather uses the words it symbolizes.

Strong's Concordance with Hebrew and Greek Lexicon

YLT Search Results for "satan"
"satan"
occurs in 0 verses in the YLT.
There are no concordance results for "satan" in the YLT.

7853 satan saw-tan' a primitive root; to attack, (figuratively) accuse:--(be an) adversary, resist.
7854 satan saw-tawn' from 7853; an opponent; especially (with the article prefixed) Satan, the arch-enemy of good:--adversary, Satan, withstand.

4566. Satan sat-an' of Hebrew origin (7854); Satan, i.e. the devil:--Satan. Compare 4567.
4567. Satanas sat-an-as' of Chaldee origin corresponding to 4566 (with the definite affix); the accuser, i.e. the devil:--Satan.

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[AV1611VET]

How do you know that name was God given?

Psalm 147:4 He telleth the number of the stars; he calleth them all by their names.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Psalm 147:4 He telleth the number of the stars; he calleth them all by their names.

Do you have any idea how long that would take, given the number of stars? Even if we just went with the ones visible from earth, just counting them alone (assuming somehow one would not lose track) would be ridiculous.

 

[AV1611VET]

Do you have any idea how long that would take, given the number of stars? Even if we just went with the ones visible from earth, just counting them alone (assuming somehow one would not lose track) would be ridiculous.

Matthew 10:30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Matthew 10:30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

Sure, but we don't name each and every single one. If only the number of stars were told, that would be different, but your line said all of them were also called by name.

 

[AV1611VET]

Sure, but we don't name each and every single one. If only the number of stars were told, that would be different, but your line said all of them were also called by name.

I used that verse to make the point that God gave names to each and every angel.

They didn't name themselves, and we didn't name them.

 

[PsychoSarah]

I used that verse to make the point that God gave names to each and every angel.

They didn't name themselves, and we didn't name them.

And typically we don't name ourselves either, our parents do. What exactly is spectacular about that?

 

[AV1611VET]

And typically we don't name ourselves either, our parents do. What exactly is spectacular about that?

What is spectacular is the fact that Lucifer chose not to allow Mr. Young to use his given name in the YLT.

 

[PsychoSarah]

What is spectacular is the fact that Lucifer choose not to allow Mr. Young to use his given name in the YLT.

I don't know what YLT stands for.

And not to be a grammar Nazi, but chose, not choose. Gosh, you are getting beat up by words today.

 

[AV1611VET]

I don't know what YLT stands for.

Young's Literal Translation.

Have you followed the conversation?

Steve referred to the KJV as a "perversion," and I showed that this "perversion" is the only Bible I know of that exposes Satan's given name.

His YLT does not.

That's one reason I'm proud to be a KJVO.

And not to be a grammar Nazi, but chose, not choose. Gosh, you are getting beat up by words today.

Mamma mia!

I need to take a break or something, eh?

 

[RickG]

Matthew 10:30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

Interesting how you will take scripture completely unrelated to a question and present it as if it was.

 

[AV1611VET]

Interesting how you will take scripture completely unrelated to a question and present it as if it was.

Oh, so God, Who has the very hairs of our heads numbered, somehow can't name the stars/angels, because there are too many of them?

 

[Delphiki]

Oh, so God, Who has the very hairs of our heads numbered, somehow can't name the stars/angels, because there are too many of them?

Apparently not. It's almost as if he's a made up character. Hmmm.

 

[bhsmte]

Interesting how you will take scripture completely unrelated to a question and present it as if it was.

Its sort of like paint by numbers, except the numbers are all scrambled up.

 

[AV1611VET]

Its sort of like paint by numbers, except the numbers are all scrambled up.

That Scripture was right on the mark.

 

[RickG]

That Scripture was right on the mark.

That scripture had nothing to do with science of any kind.

 

[AV1611VET]

That scripture had nothing to do with science of any kind.

Well, if you want a science verse ... how's this?

1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

 

[PsychoSarah]

Oh, so God, Who has the very hairs of our heads numbered, somehow can't name the stars/angels, because there are too many of them?

God apparently is OCD if it feels the need to count every single hair on every head. Or bored beyond comprehension.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Matthew 10:30
But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

How bout the hairs of the hands

"move yer left hand down and unbuckle them pistol belts...make it nice and slow, so I can count the hairs on that hand"

Josey Wales Rose of Alabamy - YouTube


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[RickG]

Well, if you want a science verse ... how's this?

1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

And referencing a version other than the KJV, cited by nearly all scholarly theologians to have numerous errors of translation and context, let's look at another translation.

1 Timothy 6:20

English Standard Version (ESV)

20 O Timothy, guard the deposit entrusted to you. Avoid the irreverent babble and contradictions of what is falsely called “knowledge,”


Even looking at the KJV text, it is more than obvious that it is not talking about anything having to do with what we know as science today in the least.



For a literalist, you sure use a lot of no literal assumptions to back those literal ones.