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The Two Beasts and the harlot of Revelation Explained

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This has been happening from the reaping of the first fruits of the harvest who are the old covenant saints. Matthew 27:52-53

This reaping has been happening to all the departed from the first fruits of the harvest all the way to the gleaning of the harvest where the last good tasting wine shall also be reaped. These will be translated automatically at Christ's brilliant coming in an instant

So every new covenant saints will behold the Lord's appearing after they depart from this earthly life.
 
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There's nothing literal about it. Why can you not see this? Human comprehension thrives on literal interpretations-worldly, fleshly, and elementary thinking stemming from deceptions.

This is the whole reason for unlocking the seals and sounding the trumpets. To seperate by apostasy and exile...

This is the purpose of the beasts and the harlot. To keep the masses in check and teach future generations to rely on their own understanding, and human wisdom corresponding to the world, which is fleshly and demonic...

His second coming is in accordance with the Two Witnesses described in Zechariah...

And what are these?

This is the Word of the Lord saying to Zerbabel, "Not by might, nor by power, but by My Spirit," declares the Lord of Hosts...

Spirit...

Word...

Not one without the other; and both are not of this world-for the divinity of truth and reconciliation in regard to the Revelation of Jesus Christ will not be found among literal interpretations of men who rely upon their own understanding-nor the worldly establishments who claim to follow Him...

This is a trustworthy statement. I assure you...
 
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I remember the Lord in tears when He entered Jerusalem for the first time. None recognized Him, nor could they understand...

I feel these afflictions everyday...

He reached out and handed Himself over to death for those who followed a world which seeks to destroy Him.

Why did the Gentiles rage, and the peoples devise futile things? The kings of earth took their stand, and the rulers were gathered together-against the Lord, and against His Christ...

As it is this day...
 
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By implication of what you said you were indicating that you believe in a figurative second coming of Jesus Christ, not in a literal one where he will descend with great glory and great power, raise the dead in him, collect his people from the ends of the world, and judge the world. By you denying the literal second coming you're denying many chain of events related to it. And you're also denying the literal power of God. I highly encourage you to change your view on this and study up more on scripture, because my denying the literal second coming your erring greatly in doctrine.
 
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I believe in the literal second coming, but it is not within the earthly context.

I explained previously that when we die and are raised up by Christ on our last day in the earthly body, we become reunited with the Lord in his Father's house.

This means that in order to behold the second coming we must migrate from this life to the afterlife. Whilst we live in the body we have the Holy Spirit that is here to stay.

Now at the end of the harvest when the Lord blows the seventh trumpet and declares time no longer, then every human being would have either entered in through the resurrection to the wedding or they would have been separated from Christ.

I do not believe that the true Messiah will materialise in this earthly realm to be seen of the unbelieving world.

So I believe in the second coming within the context of the life to come after the earthly body is dissolved.

In my churches liturgy for the departed the prayer declares that such and such has migrated from this passing life to eternal life to be with the Lord.
 
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This is based on what most would consider glory and power. Seeing Him descending in the clouds and bringing up the dead and the elect with Him...

Now this would be wonderful, and it wouldn't be beyond Him to do so, by any means...

But He comes in a manner that is only seen by those who are saved by Him. He is only recognized by those who truly know and love Him. And He knows those who are His...

His coming in flesh wasn't recognized in plain sight-and He was crucified in the flesh by His own. Murdered by those who waited-yet hardened with doubt and disbelief...

How much more will He be recognized as one who comes as a thief in the night?

I tell you now that many who look for Him in the clouds proclaiming "peace" and "salvation" will miss the day of His second coming...

The clouds are a spiritual representation of bodies of living water that gives rain in its season. It exists under the heavens and above the earth...

In other words, these spiritual clouds are like the Spirit of the Lord raining down upon the seed implanted(The Word of God) within the souls of men- producing a knowledge and understanding-a divine truth that progresses into, what is known as The Revelation of Jesus Christ...

Consider Jacobs ladder in Genesis...
 
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Open your Bible. Listen very closely. You will see the Lord as He sits face to face with you. You will find Him in the "heart of the earth", or "The foundation of the world."

He does descend in the clouds(Spirit), and He gathers those from His Word(Foundation of the World; Four corners of the earth; etc.)

But He does so like a thief. And like a theif, He comes into the men who recieve Him. He spends time with them-cleansing and healing; teaching and instructing, prophesying and establishing...
 
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I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war.

His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself.

He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God.
 
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Berean777 said:
I believe in the literal second coming, but it is not within the earthly context.
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What's the whole point of the second coming of the Lord if no one on the earth sees him? He comes to execute wrath, or do you suppose that this way of the world will continue on endlessly? You remind me of this verse in 2 Peter,

They will say, "Where is this 'coming' he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation. (2 Peter 3:4)

Jesus comes WITH POWER AND GREAT GLORY, and the world will behold him, and be filled with dread, as he comes to execute rage and judgment upon the earth. And also to glorify his people.

Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. (Matthew 24:30)

You have a grave error in your doctrine and I highly advise you to study and change your doctrine as you are in fact denying the power of God to exact judgment. Just as God was able to deliver his people from the hand of the Egyptians with his judgments and mighty wonders, so will he pour his judgments upon the earth, and deliver his people from the very own grasp of death by his power to resurrect the dead, and will perform wonders on the earth so that his people can take dominion of the earth, as these prophesies state that the earth will be our inheritance,

Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth. (Matthew 5:5)

Ask me, and I will make the nations your inheritance, the ends of the earth your possession. (Psalm 2:8)

You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God, and they will reign on the earth. (Revelation 5:10)

or do you think these are also figures of speech? God's people WILL inherit the earth, as that is the true promised land.

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I do not believe that the true Messiah will materialise in this earthly realm to be seen of the unbelieving world.
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This isn't true, you are denying the power of God, as even Paul warned,

having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people. (2 Timothy 3:5)

I highly advise you to correct your doctrine concerning the second coming. It is a literal second coming that will be seen by everyone on the earth.
 
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I am not denying the power of God. He can do the unthinkable and the impossible-all glory and honor are His...

I am trying to get you to see that He explains His second coming in a manner that will glorify Him in the utmost way. His power runs directly in accordance with His Spirit. Just as the Word does. All three are in agreement...

Im not saying He cannot return in this manner-or absolutely will not...

What I'm saying is that the Spirit describes His second coming in another way and form...

A way that will be percieved and understood by those who are His...

And yet, missed or ignored by the those who are not...

Until It's too late...
 
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Are you agreeing with berean777 that the second coming isn't literal? This really upsets me guys. This is a gave error in your doctrine. You are in fact saying that God doesn't have the power to say what he will do.
 
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The Lord's coming is like a thief in the night for that individual. That is why the Lord continuously warns to kerp the faith for you do not know the day nor the hour.

So when the Lord comes he will catch the complacent by surprise just like those who perished in the days of Noah.

There isn't going to be a show of miracles and wonders by his coming that would be a spectacle for the world to watch and aha.

Rather Jesus said that the only miracle that will be shown to the world is his death and resurrection. This is very important to note.

So there isn't something that the world will see as a spectacle. But on the other hand the other guy satan will come exactly in that manner for the world to behold and wonder.
 
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Berean777 said:
The Lord's coming is like a thief in the night for that individual. That is why the Lord continuously warns to kerp the faith for you do not know the day nor the hour.
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The Lord's coming is as a thief in the night because it comes unexpectedly, not secretly. Huge difference.

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There isn't going to be a show of miracles and wonders by his coming that would be a spectacle for the world to watch and aha.
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He doesn't come to show a spectacle to the world, he comes to bring wrath to it. He comes to kill people and destroy nations. He comes to throw people in a great fire. He comes to take dominion of the earth. He comes to show his wonders to those that ARE HIS who will witness all these things and and the earth will be given to them for dominion. These are all literal things, not figures of speech. The prophecies concerning these things aren't figurative, they are literal. This is where you are erring greatly in your doctrine.
 
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Satan is the guy who comes as a night in shining armour to arouse the world to worship him as esrthly messiah.

This is why in islam their prophet writes that Jesus will come and break the cross and kill the pigs. The author implies that the pigs are Christians who hold the reverence of the cross as the daily sacrifice once and for all for the forgiveness of sins. So when an earthly messiah manifests on esrth then what will become of the cross?

Does it have the relevance in peoplws lives?

You see the cross is here to stay as the blood covenant of promise, that is why the Holy Spirit came in Christ's stead and he mentioned that he cannot be present whilst the Spirit is and that the world sees him no more.
 
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That is goong to be how Satan masquerading as messiah will do it.

The true messiah will not break the cross which is tied to the blood covenant of peace.

However islam states that he will break the cross. Go figure.

There is no worldly appearance. The second coming is after a person departs to come before the Lord for judgement, hence all eyes shall see him even those that pierced him, because all men are destined to die once then to be presented before the Lord for judgement.
 
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Berean777 said:
That is goong to be how Satan masquerading as messiah will do it.
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Satan is the one coming in the clouds with great power and glory? This is just awful theology buddy. I hope God opens your eyes, because at this point I don't think there's any amount of scripture I can quote to let you see that God is indeed powerful and will carry out that things he has said he would do, literally.
 
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