The Twitter files

[Always in His Presence]

Just so I know: Is the problem that twitter "surpressed" information or is the problem that twitter is SUPER POPULAR and well used and surpressed information?

There is only one key word there -

 

[rambot]

There is only one key word there -

I'm just trying to get a handle on why what twitter did was wrong given that far right chat sites do the exact.same.thing. all the time.

So is that because it's a left leaning site that it's a problem OR because it's such a huge and popular site.

 

[DaisyDay]

I can honestly tell you that is 1,000% not accurate.

It is not accurate that pornographic photos of HB were posted to Twitter? It is not accurate that Biden's team requested that they be removed as a privacy violation?

BYW the right is applauding the release.

? Typo for "BTW"?

 

[Always in His Presence]

It is not accurate that pornographic photos of HB were posted to Twitter? It is not accurate that Biden's team requested that they be removed as a privacy violation?

I was responding to this:

I've read that it was mostly pornographic photos that were taken down. Revenge porn from the right.

Please explain what you meant from "revenge porn from the right", the photo's were not from the Right - they were from the Presidents son who was high on narcotics and having sex with a prostitute, they were from him and the hooker.

Additionally,

That is NOT what the Twitter files are exposing as evidence by the images and links provided.

 

[Always in His Presence]

I'm just trying to get a handle on why what twitter did was wrong given that far right chat sites do the exact.same.thing. all the time.

So is that because it's a left leaning site that it's a problem OR because it's such a huge and popular site.

Most likely because whatabouts don't fly in the real world.

 

[stevil]

I'm just trying to get a handle on why what twitter did was wrong given that far right chat sites do the exact.same.thing. all the time.

So is that because it's a left leaning site that it's a problem OR because it's such a huge and popular site.

It's not because it is a left leaning site, because it is not and never has been.

The fun and games that the USA right are playing is:
Whinging and moaning about being persecuted.
Hanging their hats on ridiculous conspiracies
Hanging their hats on being an opposition (rebellion, standing up for the people against the "oppressive" government) to the "establishment"
Hanging their hats on opposing extraordinary measures to save lives during an extraordinary global pandemic
Hanging their hats on the big lie and promoting violence to liberate USA from the "injustice" of D Trump losing a free and fair election

Because they are hanging their hats on all these dangerous misinformation and calls to violence, and hate for gays and trans, and foreigners, and jews, they are then going out of their way to conflate moderation against hate, violence, bigotry as being suppression of the voice of the right.

In fact the voice of the right is not being suppressed. I have faith that the voice of the right does not soley hang off violence, hate and bigotry.

 

[DaisyDay]

I was responding to this:



Please explain what you meant from "revenge porn from the right", the photo's were not from the Right - they were from the Presidents son who was high on narcotics and having sex with a prostitute, they were from him and the hooker.

You don't know what revenge porn is? It is sexually explicit photos posted without the subject's permission.

Additionally,

That is NOT what the Twitter files are exposing as evidence by the images and links provided.

So none of that was posted or removed upon request?

 

[rambot]

Most likely because whatabouts don't fly in the real world.

So to clarify, what Twitter did wrong is "whatabouts don't fly in the real world"? I don't understand

 

[Always in His Presence]

You don't know what revenge porn is? It is sexually explicit photos posted without the subject's permission.


So none of that was posted or removed upon request?

I don't have a clue what revenge porn is - I don't view it, I don't go to places that promote it - I have noting to do with it.

Re-read my quotes and links - this thread has ZERO to do with porn - PERIOD

It is about the White House having connections with the largest social media company on earth and shaping what is allowed to be posted - having a role in banning thousands of political opponents and even the US's oldest publication - all to protect Joe.

Musk in revealing the actual private communications is quickly becoming hated because there are people who do not like truth spoken to power, when their guy is in power.

 

[Always in His Presence]

So to clarify, what Twitter did wrong is "whatabouts don't fly in the real world"? I don't understand

Please accept my apologies - I don't think I have the ability to explain it any clearer than I have - I failed with you personally, but there are lots (thanks for the notes), who do actually understand what is happening.

I can only encourage you to keep reading from a variety of sources and the Twitter files themselves and come to your own informed decision. God's very best be your in your journey.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Twitter Files: Jack Dorsey urges Elon Musk after James Baker ouster, 'Just release everything without filter'

Former Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey has called on new boss Elon Musk to release the full "Twitter files" without filter in the name of transparency.

www.foxbusiness.com

Ex-Twitter boss Jack Dorsey has called on current CEO Elon Musk to make all the "Twitter files" public after the company's former deputy general counsel James Baker was "exited" for his role in the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story.​

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Musk has teased the release of additional "Twitter files" that purport to show how the company worked to censor certain speech, as many conservatives have long asserted. Dorsey on Wednesday suggested that Musk release all the internal documents at once, "without filter," and also explain the actions Twitter will take under its new management.​

 

[Aldebaran]

Just so I know: Is the problem that twitter "surpressed" information or is the problem that twitter is SUPER POPULAR and well used and surpressed information?

The problem is that the government colluded with a private business to suppress information from the people. It is a First Amendment violation for the govt. to do that. James Baker's involvement implicates that collusion.
Mark Zuckerberg has already implicated the FBI's collusion with Facebook. Before that, Biden's chief of staff did so: Exclusive: White House working with Facebook and Twitter to tackle anti-vaxxers

 

[essentialsaltes]

The problem is that the government colluded with

Great. As long as they worked together, and the private entity made its choices freely, it's not censorship.

 

[Aldebaran]

Great. As long as they worked together, and the private entity made its choices freely, it's not censorship.

You seem to be under the assumption that when the government went to those private entities, they were simply making friendly suggestions to those entities as to what content should be allowed, and what shouldn't be.

 

[Pommer]

There is only one key word there -

This whole issue boils down to the Right being upset that the “lying press” didn’t fall for the Hunter Biden October Surprise.

 

[Aldebaran]

This whole issue boils down to the Right being upset that the “lying press” didn’t fall for the Hunter Biden October Surprise.

Now that the suppressed information about it has been revealed to be accurate, it became an even bigger surprise after the election was over.

 

[essentialsaltes]

You seem to be under the assumption that when the government went to those private entities, they were simply making friendly suggestions to those entities as to what content should be allowed, and what shouldn't be.

What evidence in the Twitter files demonstrates my assumption is unwarranted?

But at least we seem to be in agreement that

"Government discussions with social media companies suggesting that mis- and dis-information about COVID, elections, etc. is harmful to We the People, and social media can and should act to improve the infosphere."

is acceptable.

 

[Aldebaran]

What evidence in the Twitter files demonstrates my assumption is unwarranted?

But at least we seem to be in agreement that

"Government discussions with social media companies suggesting that mis- and dis-information about COVID, elections, etc. is harmful to We the People, and social media can and should act to improve the infosphere."

is acceptable.

Not sure where you get the idea that I agree with a propaganda line like that.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Not sure where you get the idea that I agree with a propaganda line like that.

True enough. You have your own assumption, and you're not interested in whether the evidence supports it or not.

 

[stevil]

It is about the White House having connections with the largest social media company on earth and shaping what is allowed to be posted - having a role in banning thousands of political opponents and even the US's oldest publication - all to protect Joe.

Only, this never happened.
People and organisations (including govt organisations) are allowed to have correspondence with Social Media owners and are allowed to give a heads up on various misinformation that is doing the rounds.
The Social media organisation can decide for themselves what to do. They are not being coerced.

Musk in revealing the actual private communications is quickly becoming hated because there are people who do not like truth spoken to power, when their guy is in power.

What has been revealed so far had not been very news worthy, has not shown anything untoward or illegal or unethical.
People are not hating Musk for revealing the correspondence and internal conversations that have gone on regarding moderation issues.

It seems some people are trying to inflate this into some big drama. But there is nothing there.
"They try to feed you lines that you have to memorize
You always hide behind your Wizard of Oz disguise
Do you even have a brain? You're sticking to a page
You're faking all your pain, yeah, you're bleeding on a stage

I never signed up for your drama
Up for your drama, up for your drama club
I never signed up for your drama
Up for your drama club"