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Matthew 7:
Matthew 7 (KJV)
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
9 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?
10 Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?
11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
28 And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:
29 For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.
Note the important lesson offered: KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUIT.
If we LOOK BACK at the FRUIT produced by the RCC or what is today merely referred to as the Catholic Church, I would offer that it was anything BUT 'holy'. Torturing people, murdering people, stealing from people IN THE NAME OF CHRIST.
Note that this is EXACTLY what is stated above. Those mentioned STATE: look at all the wonderful things we have done IN YOUR NAME. The problem being that USING Christ's name OBVIOUSLY doesn't mean one DOING so KNOWS Christ Himself. Heck, you could call a hair brush Christ. That doesn't make the hair brush JESUS. And it is obvious by their FRUIT that they weren't FOLLOWING the message of Christ so far as forgiveness is concerned. You can't torture and murder people that you've forgiven. You can't RIGHTEOUSLY steal from people in the name of Christ no matter what you THINK or teach. You can't be TRUE followers of Christ and then LIE to the FLOCK and TAKE ADVANTAGE of the FLOCK. To be a true follower of Christ would be to SACRIFICE FOR the congregation, not make merchandise of them.
So let us JUDGE the RCC by their FRUIT as the Bible TELLS us to DO. Not making false judgements, but judgment according to RIGHTEOUSNESS: TRUE HOLY FRUIT. I don't SEE it. What I see is a group of people bent on CONTROL. Bent on POWER. Bent on DECEPTION as the means used to influence those that they desired to control. Heck, just the concept of torturing and MURDERING those that tried to give the Word of God to the PEOPLE so they could read it themselves is some pretty CORRUPT FRUIT.
And it wasn't merely a matter of a 'few sinners' in the RCC. The ENTIRE LEADERSHIP at times were as corrupt as any men have EVER been in the history of mankind. Yet the PEOPLE were taught that the LEADERSHIP were beyond reproach. That whatever the POPE declared was the WORD of God. That the POPE was the DIRECT representative of Christ on Earth. SHOW that one in the Bible???????? Show where we are taught to worship a MAN MADE 'church' rather than God through His Son. For that is exactly what the RCC taught it's followers: WORSHIP the 'church' for it is the "CHURCH" that has the power to grant or deny Salvation.
Blessings,
MEC
Matthew 7 (KJV)
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
9 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?
10 Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?
11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
28 And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:
29 For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.
Note the important lesson offered: KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUIT.
If we LOOK BACK at the FRUIT produced by the RCC or what is today merely referred to as the Catholic Church, I would offer that it was anything BUT 'holy'. Torturing people, murdering people, stealing from people IN THE NAME OF CHRIST.
Note that this is EXACTLY what is stated above. Those mentioned STATE: look at all the wonderful things we have done IN YOUR NAME. The problem being that USING Christ's name OBVIOUSLY doesn't mean one DOING so KNOWS Christ Himself. Heck, you could call a hair brush Christ. That doesn't make the hair brush JESUS. And it is obvious by their FRUIT that they weren't FOLLOWING the message of Christ so far as forgiveness is concerned. You can't torture and murder people that you've forgiven. You can't RIGHTEOUSLY steal from people in the name of Christ no matter what you THINK or teach. You can't be TRUE followers of Christ and then LIE to the FLOCK and TAKE ADVANTAGE of the FLOCK. To be a true follower of Christ would be to SACRIFICE FOR the congregation, not make merchandise of them.
So let us JUDGE the RCC by their FRUIT as the Bible TELLS us to DO. Not making false judgements, but judgment according to RIGHTEOUSNESS: TRUE HOLY FRUIT. I don't SEE it. What I see is a group of people bent on CONTROL. Bent on POWER. Bent on DECEPTION as the means used to influence those that they desired to control. Heck, just the concept of torturing and MURDERING those that tried to give the Word of God to the PEOPLE so they could read it themselves is some pretty CORRUPT FRUIT.
And it wasn't merely a matter of a 'few sinners' in the RCC. The ENTIRE LEADERSHIP at times were as corrupt as any men have EVER been in the history of mankind. Yet the PEOPLE were taught that the LEADERSHIP were beyond reproach. That whatever the POPE declared was the WORD of God. That the POPE was the DIRECT representative of Christ on Earth. SHOW that one in the Bible???????? Show where we are taught to worship a MAN MADE 'church' rather than God through His Son. For that is exactly what the RCC taught it's followers: WORSHIP the 'church' for it is the "CHURCH" that has the power to grant or deny Salvation.
Blessings,
MEC
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