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Paul is not saying the fire refers to the tribulation ..that’s your assumption…God does not test His children.. you do not understand the good newsNote well that 1 Corinthians 3:15 says we must pass through fire.
The Lord Promises to protect His own, as they stand firm in their faith, as He did for the three men in the furnace.
Many, many, Christian believers have had to pass the test by fire to death.But 1 Peter 4:12 does say we will face a test by fire. So who are you to contradict the over 70 Prophesies that say there is coming a terrible judgment/punishment by fire? Matthew 13:39-42
How can you say that some of the Books written by Peter, or anyone else, don't apply to us?Peter was speaking to his fellow Christians of his day who were undergoing extreme persecution, threats of death, and martyrdom. Not every Christian experiences that.
Practises of other religions, have nothing to do with what God does. the three men in the furnace, proved their faith by fire>The saying that you have coined we must pass through fire is what the priests of Molech preached, in convincing people to offer up their children as sacrifices to Molech. There is no passing through fire in Christianity. It is an abomination.
God does test us; in everyday things and in the forthcoming Day the Lord will strike the world in His anger. Isaiah 2:12-22Paul is not saying the fire refers to the tribulation ..that’s your assumption…God does not test His children.. you do not understand the good news
They are the martyrs, killed by men; whose souls are seen by John; Revelation 6:9-11Many, many, Christian believers have had to pass the test by fire to death.
How can you say that some of the Books written by Peter, or anyone else, don't apply to us?
We are told that ALL scripture is for our instruction and edification.
1 Peter 4:12, is plainly in the context of general teachings.
Practises of other religions, have nothing to do with what God does. the three men in the furnace, proved their faith by fire>
You are wrong on all counts, There IS coming a great test by fire onto all of the world, as 2 Peter 3:7 and more than 70 other Prophesies tell us.
The martyrs were faithful unto death by many means, by fire and any of the evil tortures of the Inquisition and other agencies.God does test us; in everyday things and in the forthcoming Day the Lord will strike the world in His anger. Isaiah 2:12-22
If you wish to escape the testing, then Hebrews 12:8 describes what you are.
They are the martyrs, killed by men; whose souls are seen by John; Revelation 6:9-11
The coming test by fire, is to see how well we do trust the Lord. He will save those who keep their faith and who call upon His Name.
It is not ignoring scriptures to say that you are wrong.But the Bible does tell of a new Temple in Jerusalem during the end times. 2 Thessalonians 2:4, Ezekiel 40 to 46
It will be God's Temple and His glory will be in it. Ezekiel 43:1-4.
At the mid point of the final 7 years of this age, a powerful leader will enter the Temple and desecrate it, as Revelation 13:6, 2 Thess 2:4, Daniel 9:27, tell us.
Ignoring these plainly stated scriptures is foolishness and nothing short of rejecting the holy Word.
We were discussing our testing.The martyrs were faithful unto death by many means, by fire and any of the evil tortures of the Inquisition and other agencies.
I pointed out some of the clearly stated Prophesies which confirm there will be a new Temple in Jerusalem during the end times and the Millennium. You reject some of Gods Word?It is not ignoring scriptures to say that you are wrong.
1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Ephesians 2:21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
God does test us; in everyday things and in the forthcoming Day the Lord will strike the world in His anger. Isaiah 2:12-22
If you wish to escape the testing, then Hebrews 12:8 describes what you are.
As someone has already said any new temple offering sacrifices will not be a temple of God for:I pointed out some of the clearly stated Prophesies which confirm there will be a new Temple in Jerusalem during the end times and the Millennium. You reject some of Gods Word?
For this Church age, of nearly 2000 years and now nearly over; WE Christians are the Spiritual Temple of God. I acknowledge this truth, but it does not preclude a new physical Temple.
Well you disagree with hundreds of years of Christian testimony and millions of martyrs who suffered under the papal antichrist.Too generalized for me to comment on whether the Jesuits were correct or not.
What I do know is that the Pope/Papacy is not the Antichrist, nor beast-king.
Yes, and we will be here to experience it too.The day of the Lord is for His enemies who deny Him and who persecute His elect
Explain then, why will the 'beast' destroy the great harlot, who is obviously the RCC? Revelation 17:15-18Well you disagree with hundreds of years of Christian testimony and millions of martyrs who suffered under the papal antichrist.
That happened in the French Revelation, when the churches were burnt, priests were ordered to leave the country within two weeks but while they were leaving they were ,killed. Both those were in retribution for exactly the same happened to the Huguenots right up to the revolution. Churches were used as stables. Then the revolution spread all over Europe even Rome and the churches were desecrated and the Pope exiled to France.Explain then, why will the 'beast' destroy the great harlot, who is obviously the RCC? Revelation 17:15-18
So the French had a revelation?That happened in the French Revelation, when the churches were burnt, priests were ordered to leave the country within two weeks but while they were leaving they were ,killed. Both those were in retribution for exactly the same happened to the Huguenots right up to the revolution. Churches were used as stables. Then the revolution spread all over Europe even Rome and the churches were desecrated and the Pope exiled to France.
Why not? It is easy to say that, but you give no reason.So the French had a revelation?
Laughs aside, your attempt to throw Bible Prophecy into the past, fails miserably. Napolean's arrest of the Pope and exile to France, was not and could not have been, the fulfilment of Revelation 17:15-18
The reason that the preterist view is wrong is; what did happen simply doesn't match what is Prophesied. Only by a big stretch of the imagination, can it be made to roughly fit.Why not? It is easy to say that, but you give no reason.
Yes, and we will be here to experience it too.
Why else are we told, three times, to: Call upon the Name of the Lord and you will be saved.
You have faith, very good, but the Prophetic Word is quite clear: there is coming a Day when that faith will be tested. Luke 21:34-36
It is proved by many other scriptures, that the 'escape' in verse 36, is not removal but protection to pass safely through it all.
I do not see this concept anywhere in prophecy.the false Messianic age
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