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The Sun Revolves Around The Earth: Scripture Cannot Lie

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It isn't the words I deny, it is the lack of sense you make of them:
Sense:
6. Meaning; import; signification; as, the true sense of words or phrases; the sense of a remark.
example:
So they read in the book in the law of God distinctly, and gave the sense. Neh. viii. 8.
I think 't was in another sense. Shak.
That is just plain silly as an excuse to try to dismiss the geocentric creation and the sun's orbit around the globe, rising in the east and setting in the west.

You have a great problem to try to use the same excuse to dismiss the sun standing still, and the moon, and not going down for another whole day while Joshua fought the enemies of Israel til they were defeated.
Also again, you have another great problem to try to dismiss the sun going backwards for ten degrees for a sign to Hezekiah.


Then, what will you do when in the end the earth staggars and is moved out of her fixed place and jumps about as a hunted roe and is turned upside down and winds and waves roar and the seasons are backwards and the sun burns seven times hotter and the moon, and the days are cut off to 16 hours so that all flesh on earth does not die from the great heat, and the stars do not appear in their order and men take them to be gods and make idols to them, when God gives them over to the great delusion of the end times tribulation?
 
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That is just plain silly as an excuse to try to dismiss the geocentric creation and the sun's orbit around the globe, rising in the east and setting in the west.

You have a great problem to try to use the same excuse to dismiss the sun standing still, and the moon, and not going down for another whole day while Joshua fought the enemies of Israel til they were defeated.
Also again, you have another great problem to try to dismiss the sun going backwards for ten degrees for a sign to Hezekiah.


Then, what will you do when in the end the earth staggars and is moved out of her fixed place and jumps about as a hunted roe and is turned upside down and winds and waves roar and the seasons are backwards and the sun burns seven times hotter and the moon, and the days are cut off to 16 hours so that all flesh on earth does not die from the great heat, and the stars do not appear in their order and men take them to be gods and make idols to them, when God gives them over to the great delusion of the end times tribulation?

I'm sure you know.
Silly me.
 
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That is just plain silly as an excuse to try to dismiss the geocentric creation and the sun's orbit around the globe, rising in the east and setting in the west.

You have a great problem to try to use the same excuse to dismiss the sun standing still, and the moon, and not going down for another whole day while Joshua fought the enemies of Israel til they were defeated.
Also again, you have another great problem to try to dismiss the sun going backwards for ten degrees for a sign to Hezekiah.


Then, what will you do when in the end the earth staggars and is moved out of her fixed place and jumps about as a hunted roe and is turned upside down and winds and waves roar and the seasons are backwards and the sun burns seven times hotter and the moon, and the days are cut off to 16 hours so that all flesh on earth does not die from the great heat, and the stars do not appear in their order and men take them to be gods and make idols to them, when God gives them over to the great delusion of the end times tribulation?

Amos 8:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord GOD, that I will cause the sun to go down at noon, and I will darken the earth in the clear day:

This one is gong to mess up the wisdom of the world. The Sun has stood still, its gone backward, and when it speeds up and sets at noon, well I guess our time schedules will be a bit messed up, I guess they will have to seek to change times.
 
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What's obvious to me, is the limitations on your perspective.

My perspective indeed are limited, glad God gave me his perspective so I could trust him and not be led away from the truth.

Isaiah 55:8-9 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

So glad God let me know these verses or I may have fallen and continued to believed science falsely called.

Psalms 37:24 Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down: for the LORD upholdeth him with his hand.
Psalms 119:43 And take not the word of truth utterly out of my mouth; for I have hoped in thy judgments.
1 Corinthians 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
 
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That is a good list JacobLaw pasted, and not even all inclusive, but Psalm 19 in the original Hebrew is -in English- "set tabernacle sun": [He hath]set [His] tabernacle/dwelling place [in the] sun.
The ancients understood that God said in many places that His tabernacle is set in the sun, so the Greek Septuagint, the Latin Vulgate, and the Douay-Rheims English all translated that Hebrew to the same as the Hebrew says: "He hath set His tabernacle in the sun" and the sun runs his course through the heavens, coming out of his portals like a bridegroom and rejoicing to run his course like a giant, from one end of heaven to the other, and nothing is hid from his heat.

You have been doing a good job; and you are correct in that there are so may more verses that clarify the truth of the geocentric position.
Not to mention that Christians have always held a geocentric position, even Jesus Christ held that position and it has not been until recently have christians left scriptures and started believing worldly sciences.
 
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You have been doing a good job; and you are correct in that there are so may more verses that clarify the truth of the geocentric position.
Not to mention that Christians have always held a geocentric position, even Jesus Christ held that position and it has not been until recently have christians left scriptures and started believing worldly sciences.
The opening video links really show that it was an attack on the Word of God as truth from the beginning and that was added to in the old age earth and evolution fables being received by the many who are blinded and ashamed of the Word and think they have to go with the flow of the devil's crowd and just keep silence while the Gospel is attacked on all those fronts, for if the Word of God is not true from the beginning to the end, then the Gospel is not true, for what foundation does it stand on? -Nothing! when the devil has made people believe his lies about heliocntrism, old earth, evolution, abortion ok , sodomy ok -and so on, til we have compromised "christian" churches dead and dying and worthless with no salt to salt the world so as to preserve it.
And thank you...you too.
 
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The opening video links really show that it was an attack on the Word of God as truth from the beginning and that was added to in the old age earth and evolution fables being received by the many who are blinded and ashamed of the Word and think they have to go with the flow of the devil's crowd and just keep silence while the Gospel is attacked on all those fronts, for if the Word of God is not true from the beginning to the end, then the Gospel is not true, for what foundation does it stand on? -Nothing! when the devil has made people believe his lies about heliocntrism, old earth, evolution, abortion ok , sodomy ok -and so on, til we have compromised "christian" churches dead and dying and worthless with no salt to salt the world so as to preserve it.

In the end, which God has told from the beginning, when the stars do not appear in their order because the earth is turned upside down and moved out of its fixed place and the winds and the waves roar and so on... and men's hearts fail them for fear of the things coming on the earth, then, because they did not receive the love of the truth, they will believe the great lie; that the stars are gods, and they will make images to them and worship them, being completely turned over to their own deceptions.

But when the LORD Jesus comes like lightning from the east, when the heavens are opened and every eye sees Him, then they will all try to hide from Him, for fear, and throw away their gods they worshipped -by their deception.
 
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My perspective indeed are limited, glad God gave me his perspective so I could trust him and not be led away from the truth.

No offense, but my guess is that no human being living on earth has God's actual perspective of the universe. ;)

So glad God let me know these verses or I may have fallen and continued to believed science falsely called.

Fallen? I hope you are not seriously suggesting that believing a geocentric model is essential for salvation?
 
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No offense, but my guess is that no human being living on earth has God's actual perspective of the universe.
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Yes, any human being on earth who reads the Word of God has His/God's perspective of creation.
The Generations/toledot of the heavens and the earth in Genesis 1,2 are copies of God the Word's own record as He wrote it and as the sons of God in the third heaven read it. For that reason, the generations/toledot of the heavens and the earth is that which is written in the Scripture of Truth in heaven [Daniel 10:21, in the original language].

Adam was created a human being son of God [Luke 3:38] and was taken from the earth below to the third heaven above and set in Paradise, God's garden in Mount Eden in the third heaven; and the sons of God have fellowship with the Creator there, and they can read the Scripture of Truth written by God the Word there. Adam [former] son of God who was set in the third heaven, in Paradise, read the Scripture of Truth on the creation from the perspective of God the Word who was there, and who tells us what He did and in what order.


Adam passed down copies of the writing of the "generations of the heavens and the earth" which Moses had copies of for his writing of the Torah.
 
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No offense, but my guess is that no human being living on earth has God's actual perspective of the universe. ;)

I know; and no offense taken, that is why his mercy gave us his grace the word of God, that through its faith we can know the substance and evidence of the truth.

Fallen? I hope you are not seriously suggesting that believing a geocentric model is essential for salvation?

Gee, I hope not! I think God will have to make that decision but I think there is a lot we don't know in the word of God, we just are not aware most the time, kind of presumptuous. The reality is I also believed the heliocentric position once and I was saved and without spouting Once Saved Always Saved doctrine, I think it may take more unbelief than that, but I might be wrong.
 
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The flaming needs to STOP!

The bickering back and forth - the insinuations and insults WILL result in the thread being closed if they continue.

Address posts - not posters. Do NOT use "you" statements in any remotely negative connotation. This will help to prevent flaming.

Please continue posting with respect for one another.

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It just seems to me that if earthcentrism was a fact, some unbeliever somewhere would espouse it, especially for God to rebuke us stubborn hardheads.
Well, now let me see:
do unbelievers espouse the resurrection of the Christ in flesh?
do "you" -or "does one" look for consensus of opinion among unbelievers for faith in believing the Word of God as it is stated truth from the beginning?
 
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Well, now let me see:
do unbelievers espouse the resurrection of the Christ in flesh?
do "you" -or "does one" look for consensus of opinion among unbelievers for faith in believing the Word of God as it is stated truth from the beginning?

An empirical, observable fact is an empirical, observable fact regardless of whether one is a Christian or not.

It's a fact that hot air rises, and that is what gives lift to a hot air balloon, because hot air is less dense than the cooler air around it, thus lifting the balloon up into the air.

That's a fact that can be demonstrated and proven over and over again.

The same with the fact that the earth is a globe, that it rotates upon its axis, and that it revolves around the sun--and this accounts for cycles of day/night, and the seasons respectively. That's a demonstrable, empirical fact--and a fact regardless of what anyone believes or doesn't believe.

Claiming the Bible says otherwise doesn't change that fact. If I claimed that the Bible says that the sky is a giant turtle named Steve, that doesn't change the fact that the sky is not, in fact, a giant turtle named Steve.

Thus either the Bible is wrong, or you're wrong. Because the facts aren't wrong, the facts don't lie. The facts are facts because they are factual. Thus our only choices remain as above.

I don't believe the Bible is wrong. So I can only conclude that you are wrong. And, quite frankly, that settles it for me.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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The same with the fact that the earth is a globe, that it rotates upon its axis, and that it revolves around the sun--and this accounts for cycles of day/night, and the seasons respectively. That's a demonstrable, empirical fact--and a fact regardless of what anyone believes or doesn't believe.....
-CryptoLutheran

The Scriptures show that before that horse got out of the gate, so to speak, the race was won.
There was no sun when God created the heavens and the earth and called light into being, out of the darkness, and the darkness and the light revolved around the globe of waters and day 1 of creation week ended with that revolution, and day 2 began with the revolving of the darkness and light, again -but on day 2, the waters were cut in two, and one half of the waters of creation were raised above the revolving darkness and light, as the heavens were stretched out between them.
That is God's science, and no man can prove His science wrong, no matter the fables made up to try to discredit His Word.

The darkness and the light still revolve around the globe once each "Day", and the light precedes the sun as the breaking of the day/dawn, each morning, and which light the sun was created on day 4 and set in the stretched out heavens -with the moon...-and was set in the revolving heavens to rule that created light, so as to be a tremendous "menorrah" set in the heavens collecting the light unto itself and refracting it back out to the universe in multiplied electro- magnetic forces, effecting the entire universe with the "winds" of electric magnetic forces, controlling the weather on earth -and on the wandering stars.
 
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The Scriptures show that before that horse got out of the gate, so to speak, the race was won.
There was no sun when God created the heavens and the earth and called light into being, out of the darkness, and the darkness and the light revolved around the globe of waters and day 1 of creation week ended with that revolution, and day 2 began with the revolving of the darkness and light, again -but on day 2, the waters were cut in two, and one half of the waters of creation were raised above the revolving darkness and light, as the heavens were stretched out between them.
That is God's science, and no man can prove His science wrong, no matter the fables made up to try to discredit His Word.

The darkness and the light still revolve around the globe once each "Day", and the light precedes the sun as the breaking of the day/dawn, each morning, and which light the sun was created on day 4 and set in the stretched out heavens -with the moon...-and was set in the revolving heavens to rule that created light, so as to be a tremendous "menorrah" set in the heavens collecting the light unto itself and refracting it back out to the universe in multiplied magnetic forces, effecting the entire universe with the "winds" of electric magnetic forces, controlling the weather on earth -and on the wandering stars.

Very well put, nice job.
 
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When God "made" the sun, He started it running a race which it has never stopped, and it comes out of a "gate" each day, which seems to be an electromagnetic path in the heavens which is established to keep the sun running its course, day after day, month after month, year after year.

The fable that the earth "tilts on its axis" was already proven wrong by the revelation of Enoch the prophet [the seventh from Adam] of the cosmology of the movements of the heavenly bodies coming out of "portals in heaven" and running their courses on ordained paths, year after year, beginning in the 4th portal at spring solstice and coming out of the same for thirty days in succession and setting for thirty days in succession, then swinging north to the 5th portal and coming out of it for thirty days in succession and setting in the 5th for thirty days in succession.
Then it returns northly through the west portal and enters the 6th portal for thirty one days in succession, and sets in thirty one days in succession.
At this point, it returns to begin again out of the same portal and the summer solstice is seen by its coming out of it two days in a row, to begin its course of days coming out of the same portals, and heading southly to enter out of the same portals again, back to the 4th, and fall equinox happens [which is the anniversary of the creation of the earth, and of Adam's creation on the sixth day after fall equinox -and his death at that anniversary 930 years later, which is marked by the days of mourning before the day of Atonement], until it runs its course back to the 1st portal, and winter solstice is experienced as it enters that portal two days in a row to begin its northly swing again, completing the year when it begins anew to enter out of the fourth portal in the heavens and spring equinox comes again.

There is no earth tilting on its axis in God's revealed cosmology. The entire year is accomplished as the sun and stars and moon come out of the electromagnetic portals in the heavens and run their course as ordained from the beginning.
The moon falls behind the sun as Enoch also explains, a certain number of days in a certain number of years, and I think the cycle is 19 years to match again...but I have to read it in Enoch again.

At any rate: that is God's Science of the movement of the heavenly bodies; and the year is completed in 364 days, with the 4 days heading the seasons being "stop" days as to their moments being added or their days being numbered in the week, until the numbers of them -without their moments- being added to the perfect 360 counted days at the end of the year, and make a complete and perfect calendar of 364 days from the beginning to eternity.

Man has messed up the reckoning of a calendar year a lot, but God's calendar has never changed, and Enoch explains it perfectly as it was shown him by the archangel Uriel, who is over the "lights".
His year is still 364 days long from spring solstice to spring solstice as seen from his own claimed real estate center of the earth [where Jerusalem is located], which God calls the "navel" of the earth; and that is where the calendar is reckoned from, in God's sacred calendar.





The Book of Enoch, Translated by Robert H. Charles, 1912

The Geocentric Calendar Book* (Chapters 72-82)

2And this is the first law of the luminaries: the luminary the Sun has its rising in the eastern portals of the heaven, and its setting in the western portals of the heaven.
3And I saw six portals in which the sun rises, and six portals in which the sun sets: and the moon rises and sets in these portals, and the leaders of the stars and those whom they lead: six in the east and six in the west, and all following each other in accurately corresponding order: also many windows to the right and left of these portals.


4And first there goes forth the great luminary, named the Sun, and his circumference is like the circumference of the heaven, and he is quite filled with illuminating and heating fire.
5The chariot on which he ascends, the wind drives, and the sun goes down from the heaven and returns through the north in order to reach the east, and is so guided that he comes to that portal and shines in the face of the heaven.
6In this way he rises in the first month in the great portal, which is the fourth those six portals in the east.

7And in that fourth portal from which the sun rises in the first month are twelve window-openings, from which proceed a flame when they are opened in their season.
8When the sun rises in the heaven, he comes forth through that fourth portal thirty mornings in succession, and sets accurately in the fourth portal in the west of the heaven.

9And during this period the day becomes daily longer and the night nightly shorter to the thirtieth morning.

10On that day the day is longer than the night by a ninth part, and the day amounts exactly to ten parts and the night to eight parts.

11And the sun rises from that fourth portal, and sets in the fourth and returns to the fifth portal of the east thirty mornings, and rises from it and sets in the fifth portal.

12And then the day becomes longer by two parts and amounts to eleven parts, and the night becomes shorter and amounts to seven parts.
13And it returns to the east and enters into the sixth portal, and rises and sets in the sixth portal one-and-thirty mornings on account of its sign.

14On that day the day becomes longer than the night, and the day becomes double the night, and the day becomes twelve parts, and the night is shortened and becomes six parts.

15And the sun mounts up to make the day shorter and the night longer, and the sun returns to the east and enters into the sixth portal, and rises from it and sets thirty mornings.
16And when thirty mornings are accomplished, the day decreases by exactly one part, and becomes eleven parts, and the night seven.

17And the sun goes forth from that sixth portal in the west, and goes to the east and rises in the fifth portal for thirty mornings, and sets in the west again in the fifth western portal.
18On that day the day decreases by two parts, and amounts to ten parts and the night to eight parts.
19And the sun goes forth from that fifth portal and sets in the fifth portal of the west, and rises in the fourth portal for one-and-thirty mornings on account of its sign, and sets in the west.
20On that day the day is equalized with the night, and becomes of equal length, and the night amounts to nine parts and the day to nine parts.
21And the sun rises from that portal and sets in the west, and returns to the east and rises thirty mornings in the third portal and sets in the west in the third portal.
22And on that day the night becomes longer than the day, and night becomes longer than night, and day shorter than day till the thirtieth morning, and the night amounts exactly to ten parts and the day to eight parts.
23And the sun rises from that third portal and sets in the third portal in the west and returns to the east, and for thirty mornings rises in the second portal in the east, and in like manner sets in the second portal in the west of the heaven.
24And on that day the night amounts to eleven parts and the day to seven parts.
25And the sun rises on that day from that second portal and sets in the west in the second portal, and returns to the east into the first portal for one-and-thirty mornings, and sets in the first portal in the west of the heaven.
26And on that day the night becomes longer and amounts to the double of the day: and the night amounts exactly to twelve parts and the day to six.
27And the sun has therewith traversed the divisions of his orbit and turns again on those divisions of his orbit, and enters that portal thirty mornings and sets also in the west opposite to it.
28And on that night has the night decreased in length by a ninth part, and the night has become eleven parts and the day seven parts. 29And the sun has returned and entered into the second portal in the east, and returns on those his divisions of his orbit for thirty mornings, rising and setting.
30And on that day the night decreases in length, and the night amounts to ten parts and the day to eight.
31And on that day the sun rises from that portal, and sets in the west, and returns to the east, and rises in the third portal for one-and-thirty mornings, and sets in the west of the heaven.
32On that day the night decreases and amounts to nine parts, and the day to nine parts, and the night is equal to the day and the year is exactly as to its days three hundred and sixty-four.
33And the length of the day and of the night, and the shortness of the day and of the night arise- through the course of the sun these distinctions are made.
34So it comes that its course becomes daily longer, and its course nightly shorter.
35And this is the law and the course of the sun, and his return as often as he returns sixty times and rises, that is the great luminary which is named the sun, for ever and ever.
36And that which thus rises is the great luminary, and is so named according to its appearance, according as the Lord commanded.
37As he rises, so he sets and decreases not, and rests not, but runs day and night, and his light is sevenfold brighter than that of the moon; but as regards size they are both equal.
 
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When God "made" the sun
No scare quotes necessary, God actually made the sun.

, He started it running a race which it has never stopped, and it comes out of a "gate" each day, which seems to be an electromagnetic path in the heavens which is established to keep the sun running its course, day after day, month after month, year after year.
Gibberish. And, of course, the Bible says no such thing anyway.

The fable that the earth "tilts on its axis" was already proven wrong by the revelation of Enoch the prophet [the seventh from Adam]
Only thing "Enoch" proves is that whoever wrote it didn't have clue one what he was talking about, and was probably just making it up as he went. God's actual design is above us in plain view, and doesn't require a rocket scientist to understand. All you have to do is *look at it*. The phony "Enoch" didn't bother to look, he just made it up.

of the cosmology of the movements of the heavenly bodies coming out of "portals in heaven"
That's the dumbest of "Enoch's" many dumb ideas. Portals, aka doors? Really? Between where and where else? Where are they, exactly, so we can train our 'scopes on 'em and see the sun coming and going through them? Does the sun disappear into one "portal" and then reappear out another somewhere else? If so, howcome we don't see it happening? Triple distilled hogwash!

There is no earth tilting on its axis in God's revealed cosmology.
God's cosmology is on permanent open display for anyone who wants to observe it. The alleged "revelations" that contradict it are, not to put too fine a point on it, lies.

The entire year is accomplished as the sun and stars and moon come out of the electromagnetic portals in the heavens
I don't seem to recall any mention of "electromagnetic portals" in Scripture. And in spite of my years of book l'arnin as an Electrical Engineer, i don't know what an EM "portal" is supposed to be. I think that concept just got itself triangulated as gobbledygook via two different disciplines.

The moon falls behind the sun
That's not what we see if we're looking at what God actually set in motion rather than reading some fraudster's fantastic "description".

as Enoch also explains
With another ration of fertilizer...

At any rate: that is God's Science of the movement of the heavenly bodies; and the year is completed in 364 days, with the 4 days heading the seasons being "stop" days as to their moments being added or their days being numbered in the week, until the numbers of them -without their moments- being added to the perfect 360 counted days at the end of the year, and make a complete and perfect calendar of 364 days from the beginning to eternity.
Such wow! "Enoch's" design is remarkable for its ridiculous Rube Goldberg complexity and reliance on stuff that doesn't exist. God's actual plan is supremely elegant, with everything functioning like a well-oiled cosmic machine. That alone should be enough to give the lie to "Enoch's" kludged up universe.
 
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No scare quotes necessary, God actually made the sun.
the reason for the quotes is that the sun was not "called into being", like light, but built/engineered.


Gibberish. And, of course, the Bible says no such thing anyway.
Actually, it does, and not only that, but Enoch is " Scripture/writing" as in "sacred" as Jesus Himself calls it such.

It keeps running on its highway, around the globe, "coming out/going forth out of/yatsa of its chambers"
Psa 19:5 Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a giant to run [his] race.
Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.

NKJV Which is like a bridegroom coming out of his chamber,
And rejoices like a strong man to run its race.

NLT It bursts forth like a radiant bridegroom after his wedding.
It rejoices like a great athlete eager to run the race.


NIV It is like a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, like a champion rejoicing to run his course.

ESV which comes out like a bridegroom leaving his chamber,
and, like a strong man, runs its course with joy.

RVR60 Y éste, como esposo que sale de su tálamo, Se alegra cual gigante para correr el camino.

NASB Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber;
It rejoices as a strong man to run his course.

RSV which comes forth like a bridegroom leaving his chamber, and like a strong man runs its course with joy.

ASV Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, And rejoiceth as a strong man to run his course.

YLT And he, as a bridegroom, goeth out from his covering, He rejoiceth as a mighty one To run the path.
DBY And he is as a bridegroom going forth from his chamber; he rejoiceth as a strong man to run the race.

WEB Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.

HNV Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, Like a strong man rejoicing to run his course.
That's the dumbest of ... dumb ideas. Portals, aka doors? Really? Between where and where else? Where are they, exactly, so we can train our 'scopes on 'em and see the sun coming and going through them? ...!
The sun "goes out"/yatsa' of its chamber, as it circles the globe in its path established for it as Enoch wrote of it, having been shown it by the angel, Uriel, who has dominion over the lights.

yatsa' /to go out, come out, exit, go forth
The KJV translates Strongs H3318 in the following manner: ....out (518x), ....forth (411x), bring (24x), come (24x), proceed (16x), go (13x), depart (10x), misc (53x).
It means to go out, to go forth, from a chamber, and it is used in regards to the sun mounting up over the globe in its path/highway, which it is bound to by the electromagnetic forces established for it in the beginning.


The paths of angels, the paths of stars, the doors and windows of heaven are electromagnetic streams/highways/courses:

Jdg 5:20 They fought from heaven; the stars in their courses/mĕcillah fought against Sisera.

mĕcillah/ The KJV translates Strongs H4546 in the following manner: highway (19x), causeway (2x), path (2x), way (2x), courses (1x), terraces (1x).



I don't seem to recall any mention of "electromagnetic portals"...
perhaps you could take up the study of the electric universe. and the electric sun and electric stars, and learn about electro-magnetic forces discharged in CME's, and the Northern and Southern Lights ...and then come back to the Word to see how the Creator called the "forces/powers of His light" into being on day 1.
The word trinity is not mentioned in the Word, either, but it is there for one who studies the Word, seeking understanding, to "see".
 
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The Father in heaven makes His sun "to rise".

Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

g393 ἀνατέλλω anatellō

rise
to cause to rise

from ana: denoting motion from a lower place to a higher

and from telos:
From a primary tello (to set out for a definite point or goal)
 
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