The Sumerian Flood Narrative

[WarriorAngel]

http://chapmanresearch.org/PDF/Noah And The Flood From Ancient Documents.pdf


Flood Stories from Around the World


Index by Region

• Europe
  • Greek, Arcadian, Samothrace
  • Roman
  • Scandinavian, German
  • Celtic, Welsh
  • Lithuanian, Transylvanian Gypsy
  • Turkey
• Near East
  • Sumerian
  • Egypt, Babylonian, Assyrian, Chaldean, Hebrew, Islamic
  • Persian, Zoroastrian
• Africa
  • Cameroon
  • Masai (East Africa), Komililo Nandi, Kwaya (Lake Victoria)
  • Southwest Tanzania, Pygmy, Ababua (northern Zaire), Kikuyu (Kenya), Bakongo (west Zaire), Bachokwe? (southern Zaire), Lower Congo, Basonge, Bena-Lulua (Congo River, southeast Zaire)
  • Yoruba (southwest Nigeria), Efik-Ibibio (Nigeria), Ekoi (Nigeria)
  • Mandingo (Ivory Coast)
• Asia
  • Vogul
  • Samoyed (north Siberia)
  • Yenisey-Ostyak (north central Siberia), Kamchadale (northeast Siberia)
  • Altaic (central Asia), Tuvinian (Soyot) (north of Mongolia)
  • Mongolia, Buryat (eastern Siberia)
  • Sagaiye (eastern Siberia)
  • Russian
  • Hindu, Bhil (central India), Kamar (Raipur District, Central India), Assam
  • Tamil (southern India)
  • Lepcha (Sikkim), Tibet, Singpho (Assam), Lushai (Assam), Lisu (northwest Yunnan, China), Lolo (southwestern China), Jino (southern Yunnan, China), Karen (Burma), Chingpaw (Upper Burma)
  • China
  • Korea
  • Munda (north-central India), Santal (Bengal), Ho (southwestern Bengal)
  • Bahnar (Cochin China), Kammu (northern Thailand)
  • Andaman Islands (Bay of Bengal)
  • Zhuang (China), Sui (southern Guizhou, China), Shan (Burma)
  • Tsuwo (Formosa interior), Bunun (Formosa interior), Ami (eastern Taiwan)
  • Benua-Jakun (Malay Peninsula), Kelantan (Malay Peninsula), Ifugao (Philippines), Kiangan Ifugao, Atá (Philippines), Mandaya (Philippines), Tinguian (Luzon, Philippines)
  • Batak (Sumatra), Nias (an island west of Sumatra), Engano (another island west of Sumatra), Dusun (British North Borneo), Dyak (Borneo), Ot-Danom (Dutch Borneo), Toradja (central Celebes), Alfoor (between Celebes and New Guinea), Rotti (southwest of Timor), Nage (Flores)
• Australia
  • Arnhem Land (northern Northern Territory)
  • Maung (Goulburn Islands, Arnhem Land), Gunwinggu (northern Arnhem Land)
  • Gumaidj (Arnhem Land)
  • Manger (Arnhem Land)
  • Fitzroy River area (Western Australia)
  • Australian, Mount Elliot (coastal Queensland), Western Australia, Andingari (South Australia), Wiranggu (South Australia), Narrinyeri (South Australia), Victoria, Lake Tyres (Victoria), Kurnai (Gippsland, Victoria), southeast Australian
  • Maori (New Zealand)
• Pacific Islands
  • Kabadi (New Guinea), Valman (northern New Guinea), Mamberao River (Irian Jaya), Samo-Kubo (western Papua New Guinea), Papua New Guinea
  • Palau Islands (Micronesia), western Carolines
  • New Hebrides, Lifou (one of the Loyalty Islands), Fiji
  • Samoa, Nanumanga (Tuvalu, South Pacific), Mangaia (Cook Islands), Rakaanga (Cook Islands), Raiatea (Leeward Group, French Polynesia), Tahiti, Hawaii
• North America

You get the picture....




Basically it comes down to this - who was the author and how reliable were they in keeping the story.


The book of Genesis maintained in the Bible is a literal story - and it is believed because Moses - who literally spoke to God - was the author.


Anything else - was written by an unknown that BACKS UP the Bible - not takes away from it. The problem with the narrative of the other ones is - reliability of the author - and hearsay which likely led to bits and parts being changed.


As i said - the book of Genesis was written by a known prophet - Moses.


Peace out.

 

[Split Rock]

Nobel prizes are meaningless.

You say that because you never got one

Obama got one for giving speeches.

That was the Peace Prize, I am referring to those for scientific achievment.

Al Gore got one for perpetrating a known fraud.

A "known fraud?" LOL, you guys crack me up!

It's nothing more than liberals patting each other on the back.

Sour Grapes

 

[freezerman2000]

http://chapmanresearch.org/PDF/Noah And The Flood From Ancient Documents.pdf


Flood Stories from Around the World


Index by Region

• Europe
  • Greek, Arcadian, Samothrace
  • Roman
  • Scandinavian, German
  • Celtic, Welsh
  • Lithuanian, Transylvanian Gypsy
  • Turkey
• Near East
  • Sumerian
  • Egypt, Babylonian, Assyrian, Chaldean, Hebrew, Islamic
  • Persian, Zoroastrian
• Africa
  • Cameroon
  • Masai (East Africa), Komililo Nandi, Kwaya (Lake Victoria)
  • Southwest Tanzania, Pygmy, Ababua (northern Zaire), Kikuyu (Kenya), Bakongo (west Zaire), Bachokwe? (southern Zaire), Lower Congo, Basonge, Bena-Lulua (Congo River, southeast Zaire)
  • Yoruba (southwest Nigeria), Efik-Ibibio (Nigeria), Ekoi (Nigeria)
  • Mandingo (Ivory Coast)
• Asia
  • Vogul
  • Samoyed (north Siberia)
  • Yenisey-Ostyak (north central Siberia), Kamchadale (northeast Siberia)
  • Altaic (central Asia), Tuvinian (Soyot) (north of Mongolia)
  • Mongolia, Buryat (eastern Siberia)
  • Sagaiye (eastern Siberia)
  • Russian
  • Hindu, Bhil (central India), Kamar (Raipur District, Central India), Assam
  • Tamil (southern India)
  • Lepcha (Sikkim), Tibet, Singpho (Assam), Lushai (Assam), Lisu (northwest Yunnan, China), Lolo (southwestern China), Jino (southern Yunnan, China), Karen (Burma), Chingpaw (Upper Burma)
  • China
  • Korea
  • Munda (north-central India), Santal (Bengal), Ho (southwestern Bengal)
  • Bahnar (Cochin China), Kammu (northern Thailand)
  • Andaman Islands (Bay of Bengal)
  • Zhuang (China), Sui (southern Guizhou, China), Shan (Burma)
  • Tsuwo (Formosa interior), Bunun (Formosa interior), Ami (eastern Taiwan)
  • Benua-Jakun (Malay Peninsula), Kelantan (Malay Peninsula), Ifugao (Philippines), Kiangan Ifugao, Atá (Philippines), Mandaya (Philippines), Tinguian (Luzon, Philippines)
  • Batak (Sumatra), Nias (an island west of Sumatra), Engano (another island west of Sumatra), Dusun (British North Borneo), Dyak (Borneo), Ot-Danom (Dutch Borneo), Toradja (central Celebes), Alfoor (between Celebes and New Guinea), Rotti (southwest of Timor), Nage (Flores)
• Australia
  • Arnhem Land (northern Northern Territory)
  • Maung (Goulburn Islands, Arnhem Land), Gunwinggu (northern Arnhem Land)
  • Gumaidj (Arnhem Land)
  • Manger (Arnhem Land)
  • Fitzroy River area (Western Australia)
  • Australian, Mount Elliot (coastal Queensland), Western Australia, Andingari (South Australia), Wiranggu (South Australia), Narrinyeri (South Australia), Victoria, Lake Tyres (Victoria), Kurnai (Gippsland, Victoria), southeast Australian
  • Maori (New Zealand)
• Pacific Islands
  • Kabadi (New Guinea), Valman (northern New Guinea), Mamberao River (Irian Jaya), Samo-Kubo (western Papua New Guinea), Papua New Guinea
  • Palau Islands (Micronesia), western Carolines
  • New Hebrides, Lifou (one of the Loyalty Islands), Fiji
  • Samoa, Nanumanga (Tuvalu, South Pacific), Mangaia (Cook Islands), Rakaanga (Cook Islands), Raiatea (Leeward Group, French Polynesia), Tahiti, Hawaii
• North America

You get the picture....




Basically it comes down to this - who was the author and how reliable were they in keeping the story.


The book of Genesis maintained in the Bible is a literal story - and it is believed because Moses - who literally spoke to God - was the author.


Anything else - was written by an unknown that BACKS UP the Bible - not takes away from it. The problem with the narrative of the other ones is - reliability of the author - and hearsay which likely led to bits and parts being changed.


As i said - the book of Genesis was written by a known prophet - Moses.


Peace out.

.

 

[freezerman2000]

http://chapmanresearch.org/PDF/Noah And The Flood From Ancient Documents.pdf


Flood Stories from Around the World


Index by Region

• Europe
  • Greek, Arcadian, Samothrace
  • Roman
  • Scandinavian, German
  • Celtic, Welsh
  • Lithuanian, Transylvanian Gypsy
  • Turkey
• Near East
  • Sumerian
  • Egypt, Babylonian, Assyrian, Chaldean, Hebrew, Islamic
  • Persian, Zoroastrian
• Africa
  • Cameroon
  • Masai (East Africa), Komililo Nandi, Kwaya (Lake Victoria)
  • Southwest Tanzania, Pygmy, Ababua (northern Zaire), Kikuyu (Kenya), Bakongo (west Zaire), Bachokwe? (southern Zaire), Lower Congo, Basonge, Bena-Lulua (Congo River, southeast Zaire)
  • Yoruba (southwest Nigeria), Efik-Ibibio (Nigeria), Ekoi (Nigeria)
  • Mandingo (Ivory Coast)
• Asia
  • Vogul
  • Samoyed (north Siberia)
  • Yenisey-Ostyak (north central Siberia), Kamchadale (northeast Siberia)
  • Altaic (central Asia), Tuvinian (Soyot) (north of Mongolia)
  • Mongolia, Buryat (eastern Siberia)
  • Sagaiye (eastern Siberia)
  • Russian
  • Hindu, Bhil (central India), Kamar (Raipur District, Central India), Assam
  • Tamil (southern India)
  • Lepcha (Sikkim), Tibet, Singpho (Assam), Lushai (Assam), Lisu (northwest Yunnan, China), Lolo (southwestern China), Jino (southern Yunnan, China), Karen (Burma), Chingpaw (Upper Burma)
  • China
  • Korea
  • Munda (north-central India), Santal (Bengal), Ho (southwestern Bengal)
  • Bahnar (Cochin China), Kammu (northern Thailand)
  • Andaman Islands (Bay of Bengal)
  • Zhuang (China), Sui (southern Guizhou, China), Shan (Burma)
  • Tsuwo (Formosa interior), Bunun (Formosa interior), Ami (eastern Taiwan)
  • Benua-Jakun (Malay Peninsula), Kelantan (Malay Peninsula), Ifugao (Philippines), Kiangan Ifugao, Atá (Philippines), Mandaya (Philippines), Tinguian (Luzon, Philippines)
  • Batak (Sumatra), Nias (an island west of Sumatra), Engano (another island west of Sumatra), Dusun (British North Borneo), Dyak (Borneo), Ot-Danom (Dutch Borneo), Toradja (central Celebes), Alfoor (between Celebes and New Guinea), Rotti (southwest of Timor), Nage (Flores)
• Australia
  • Arnhem Land (northern Northern Territory)
  • Maung (Goulburn Islands, Arnhem Land), Gunwinggu (northern Arnhem Land)
  • Gumaidj (Arnhem Land)
  • Manger (Arnhem Land)
  • Fitzroy River area (Western Australia)
  • Australian, Mount Elliot (coastal Queensland), Western Australia, Andingari (South Australia), Wiranggu (South Australia), Narrinyeri (South Australia), Victoria, Lake Tyres (Victoria), Kurnai (Gippsland, Victoria), southeast Australian
  • Maori (New Zealand)
• Pacific Islands
  • Kabadi (New Guinea), Valman (northern New Guinea), Mamberao River (Irian Jaya), Samo-Kubo (western Papua New Guinea), Papua New Guinea
  • Palau Islands (Micronesia), western Carolines
  • New Hebrides, Lifou (one of the Loyalty Islands), Fiji
  • Samoa, Nanumanga (Tuvalu, South Pacific), Mangaia (Cook Islands), Rakaanga (Cook Islands), Raiatea (Leeward Group, French Polynesia), Tahiti, Hawaii
• North America

You get the picture....




Basically it comes down to this - who was the author and how reliable were they in keeping the story.


The book of Genesis maintained in the Bible is a literal story - and it is believed because Moses - who literally spoke to God - was the author.


Anything else - was written by an unknown that BACKS UP the Bible - not takes away from it. The problem with the narrative of the other ones is - reliability of the author - and hearsay which likely led to bits and parts being changed.


As i said - the book of Genesis was written by a known prophet - Moses.


Peace out.

Those may back up a worldwide flood narrative,but what were the time lines? Did they all happen within the same geologic time frame? There is nothing that supports the idea that they did.
Moses is a known prophet to Christians and those of the Jewish faith, yet what are the chances that the for-tellers of the other flood accounts are not known within their own cultures?
How many of those other cultures had/have no written alphabet,having to rely on oral tradition?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Actually many narratives of a great flood exist.
Including Native Americans.

Indeed -- and I'm sure that it has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that every civilization that has ever existed can trace its origins to living near a source of water, and larger sources of water have an annoying tendency to flood.

Furthermore, we see cultures which didn't even exist at the time the Genesis flood allegedly took place have flood stories of their own, so obviously we're not all talking about the same flood.

 

[Dieselman]

A "known fraud?" LOL, you guys crack me up!

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Well... known to everyone but you I guess.

 

[Dieselman]

Furthermore, we see cultures which didn't even exist at the time the Genesis flood allegedly took place have flood stories of their own, so obviously we're not all talking about the same flood.

Absolutely not. People are incapable of locomotion. They must reside where they are born. In fact, in the history of mankind, it has never been recorded that anyone has ever ventured more than a few miles from the place of his birth. That's one reason we all still speak the same language.

 

[freezerman2000]

Absolutely not. People are incapable of locomotion. They must reside where they are born. In fact, in the history of mankind, it has never been recorded that anyone has ever ventured more than a few miles from the place of his birth. That's one reason we all still speak the same language.

What language would that be?
Take your pick:
List of languages by number of native speakers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[TLK Valentine]

Absolutely not. People are incapable of locomotion. They must reside where they are born. In fact, in the history of mankind, it has never been recorded that anyone has ever ventured more than a few miles from the place of his birth. That's one reason we all still speak the same language.

Right -- so the Native Americans are simply transplanted Hebrews -- who changed their language as a result of the tower of Babel...

I keep forgetting that.

 

[Dieselman]

What language would that be?

Sarcasm.

 

[freezerman2000]

sarcasm is not a language if you haven't figured that out.

 

[Dieselman]

Right -- so the Native Americans are simply transplanted Hebrews -- who changed their language as a result of the tower of Babel...

I keep forgetting that.

You know... the Bible nevesr says that there were no other incarnations of man after the great flood. It's POSSIBLE that He slapped a chimp a few times and something else crawled of of it. It would certainly explian where liberals come from.

 

[Dieselman]

sarcasm is not a language if you haven't figured that out.

Wait... you SERIOUSLY don't get it?????????

 

[freezerman2000]

When someone attempts sarcasm to try to get their point of view across,it backfires..quite often.

 

[Split Rock]

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Well... known to everyone but you I guess.

Oh goody... conspiracy internet sites! Those are never wrong, you know... You forgot the other great fraud conspiracy internet sites have exposed.. Heliocentricity:

https://sites.google.com/site/earthdeception/
https://sites.google.com/site/oldshepherd1935/heliocentricfraud
Thank JEHOVAH that the Earth is NOT moving!!

 

[TLK Valentine]

You know... the Bible nevesr says that there were no other incarnations of man after the great flood.

Of course, just because it says all life was wiped out doesn't mean all life was wiped out...

It's POSSIBLE that He slapped a chimp a few times and something else crawled of of it. It would certainly explian where liberals come from.

Glad you're amusing yourself. Which denomination should I join to learn to be such a shining example of Christendom?

 

[Dieselman]

Oh goody... conspiracy internet sites! Those are never wrong, you know... You forgot the other great fraud conspiracy internet sites have exposed.. Heliocentricity

How about the Wall Street Journal? Are you the only person in America NOT TO KNOW about the fraud?
How about the New York Times?
Typical liberal response- ignore the facts, attack the messenger. Sorry. The whole world knows about the fraud recorded in the hacked e-mails.

 

[Dieselman]

Of course, just because it says all life was wiped out doesn't mean all life was wiped out...

Only if you think God is a liar. Of course, if He's a liar, He can't be God. If He's god, He can't lie...

Glad you're amusing yourself. Which denomination should I join to learn to be such a shining example of Christendom?

Unprepossessing minds are wonderful playthings. And frankly, I'd start by reading the Book and attending a few churches until you find one that teaches according to the Book.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Only if you think God is a liar. Of course, if He's a liar, He can't be God. If He's god, He can't lie...

Why not? If you've read your Bible, you'd know that God has a history of lying and of encouraging others for lying on His behalf.

But in any case, I'm sure God is at this very moment, shaking in His formerly all-powerful boots at the thought of what you say He can and cannot do.

Tell me, how exactly would you strip Him of His "God" status if He dares disobey you?

Unprepossessing minds are wonderful playthings. And frankly, I'd start by reading the Book and attending a few churches until you find one that teaches according to the Book.

Then I can use the Bible for cheap political ad homs? Sounds like a sweet deal -- well, that and the ability to command God around like a pet...

 

[Gracchus]

Only if you think God is a liar. Of course, if He's a liar, He can't be God. If He's god, He can't lie...

Unprepossessing minds are wonderful playthings. And frankly, I'd start by reading the Book and attending a few churches until you find one that teaches according to the Book.

Why not? If you've read your Bible, you'd know that God has a history of lying and of encouraging others for lying on His behalf.

But in any case, I'm sure God is at this very moment, shaking in His formerly all-powerful boots at the thought of what you say He can and cannot do.

Tell me, how exactly would you strip Him of His "God" status if He dares disobey you?

Then I can use the Bible for cheap political ad homs? Sounds like a sweet deal -- well, that and the ability to command God around like a pet...

I don't know about Dieselman, but AV1611VET, is on record that he would tell God to "Take a hike!", and dad would "kick his keister". You don't want to mess with the real Christians, no matter who you are.