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I find the use of the fish symbol to be more useful as it conveys a wider range of meanings and was a very popular icon of the early church.
Nice post, thanks...
The sad fact is that Reformational faith has pretty much devolved into theological ideas...
Eastern Orthodox Catholics hold Her as our Treasury of Intercession to Christ...
Through Her we enter into Christ in Baptism, because She is the Woman persecuted by the Beast in Revelation, the Apostolic Church, the Body of Christ, Who IS the One doing the Baptism which Births us INTO Christ...
Simple Orthodox Faithful, children and adults and monastics and old men and women, seek and receive Her Intercession for helps... She is our Mother as well as Christ's, for we are IN Christ, in His Body as Members...
Indeed She is the New Eve, and as She is recorded saying in Holy Writ:
"Behold! All generations will be calling me Blessed!"
Calling Her Blessed is an essential part of our Worship of God every day...
Who does? Is this an issue with anyone?So I think that using the fish icon does not constitute worshiping a fish. .
There's no "likewise" about it. No one worships the fish emblem. There is reason to conclude that millions do engage in acts of worship towards Mary and religious icons, however.Likewise when I contact the Created Daughter of God the Father, Mary, through icons, I am not worshiping the icon or Mary. I am receiving her help in worshiping the God-man, Jesus Christ.
Who does? Is this an issue with anyone?
There's no "likewise" about it. No one worships the fish emblem. There is reason to conclude that millions do engage in acts of worship towards Mary and religious icons, however.
I know that you don't think they do. You won't even listen to a reasoned discussion of the matter.
I know that you don't think they do. You won't even listen to a reasoned discussion of the matter.
"People say the darndest things."
Don't feel bad. You're not the only one who gives testimonials instead of answers.From my perspective, I think sometimes people are unable to provide substantive responses to evidence that is presented by others.
Don't feel bad. You're not the only one who gives testimonials instead of answers.
If one does not honor Mary, the highest of all God's creatures, then their worship of God is crippled.
Devotion to Mary is intrinsic to Christian worship.
Ah, so you're saying that you'd be guided by Scripture when deciding what doctrines to believe. Veeerrrry interesting.I dont find anything in scripture which would lead me to think this is true.
Ah, so you're saying that you'd be guided by Scripture when deciding what doctrines to believe. Veeerrrry interesting.
I don't think that Catholics worship the created Daughter of God..
I dont find anything in scripture which would lead me to think this is true. To the contrary, scripture would lead me away from such things, in my opinion.
Think hard about what you are saying.
I try to. The Word of God includes both the written Word and the oral Word, as the Bible--which itself is part of Catholic Tradition, the Catholic Church having compiled it--indicates. Now, if someone through no fault of their own does not have an explicit devotion to the creature called Blessed Virgin (She Who Believed), then that is one thing. God meets us where we are at and understands our limitations. But for those who know the truth about devotion to Jesus Christ, our God, through His Mother, and still choose to neglect devotion to her... that is a terrible thing which is, to some extent at least, a rejection of God. But Our Lord is always ready to take us back through Our Lady, His Mom.
The Catholic Church did not write the bible. Its simply a collection of writings that were written before the Catholic Church even existed. The pharisees and scribes whom the Lord rebuked many times, they also collected scripture but i wouldn't follow their doctrine because they couldn't understand the scriptures. Its the same way with the catholic Church, in my opinion, if they understood the scriptures they would not be preaching about Mariology.
Furthermore, i have heard it said by a well known Lutheran member, that the genealogy of Christ is not to be taken literally. He once told me that the origins of mankind agree with the theory of evolution. I told him that such a theory would in fact discredit the genealogy of Christ, and he responded by saying that Jesus genealogy is not literal in translation.
If however he is correct then Mary is not even a real person, but simply some character in a fake genealogy of Christ
I myself reject the evolution theory as flawed. I also reject my Lutheran brothers assertions. This however still doesn't mean i will see any value in Mariology
We have very different beliefs and perspectives, as I believe that the Catholic Church is the one Church founded by Mary's Son, our God, as the pillar and foundation of the Truth.
Yes, i trust nothing else (than Scripture)
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