The second coming

[Big Mouth Nana]

Nephilim is the Hebrew word used as giants in the English in Genesis 6:4 and Numbers 13:33, in the Hebrew it means "fallen ones". I and yes many believe that these fallen ones were the progeny of fallen angels and human women. Some believe that these nephilim are present today and explain the ufo phenomenon and alien abduction.

I believe that these fallen ones "took" these human women also. I believe that is where the giants came from also.

 

[nephilimiyr]

Iyr is Hebrew as well as Chaldean and is watcher in the English. Daniel 4:23 mentions the word once by saying this, Dan. 4:23, And whereas the king saw a watcher and an holy one comeing down from heaven, and saying, Hew the tree down, and destroy it etc., etc. The word iyr does discribe a type of angel but the word is plain and simple and means to open ones eyes and watch.

 

[Big Mouth Nana]

What is even stranger, is that here the vials appear to still be full!!!! Is this translation right?

(Young) Revelation 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven messengers, who have the seven vials that are full of the seven last plagues, and he spake with me, saying, `Come, I will shew thee the bride of the Lamb--the wife,'

No, it says "had". I don't think they are still full. It is just referring to the angel that had the vials coming over to talk to John. There is no more pouring out after Rev 17. In Rev 18 is the destruction of Babylon with fire.

 

[nephilimiyr]

I believe that these fallen ones "took" these human women also. I believe that is where the giants came from also.

I'm still alittle uneasy about saying for sure that I believe in this ufo business but I do believe, without hesitation, that the sin the fallen angels committed that Peter and Jude talked about was their fornication with human women. I'm just not sure about ufo's yet.

 

[Big Mouth Nana]

I'm still alittle uneasy about saying for sure that I believe in this ufo business but I do believe, without hesitation, that the sin the fallen angels committed that Peter and Jude talked about was their fornication with human women. I'm just not sure about ufo's yet.

I do believe that there are sightings of something out there. I used to watch the Popocateptl volcano in Mexico on a their webcam. I swear this is the truth!!!! The volcano was belching out fire, and was getting really upset like it was going to explode. I saw something fly into that volcano like a space ship of some sort, and that volcano got just as quiet after that. Now, I don't know what that was, good/evil, but it was real!!!!

 

[nephilimiyr]

I believe that these fallen ones "took" these human women also. I believe that is where the giants came from also.

I guess continueing on with this would be derailing the thread but I do have to correct you on one thing. The fallen angels, the angels that sinned, not the fallen ones, took human women to marry them. Their offspring were the fallen ones or rather the nephilim. The fallen ones didn't take the women but their fathers, the fallen angels, did.
I hope I cleared that up

 

[nephilimiyr]

I do believe that there are sightings of something out there. I used to watch the Popocateptl volcano in Mexico on a their webcam. I swear this is the truth!!!! The volcano was belching out fire, and was getting really upset like it was going to explode. I saw something fly into that volcano like a space ship of some sort, and that volcano got just as quiet after that. Now, I don't know what that was, good/evil, but it was real!!!!

That is weird! I know sincere people, my friends, have told me about what they have seen and I just can't tell them that they are nut's or that they didn't see what they thought they saw. I know I have never seen a ufo and I guess I will always be skeptical until it happends.

 

[Big Mouth Nana]

I guess continueing on with this would be derailing the thread but I do have to correct you on one thing. The fallen angels, the angels that sinned, not the fallen ones, took human women to marry them. Their offspring were the fallen ones or rather the nephilim. The fallen ones didn't take the women but their fathers, the fallen angels, did.
I hope I cleared that up

I just noticed your username LOL. Doesn't that mean fallen angel?

 

[Big Mouth Nana]

That is weird! I know sincere people, my friends, have told me about what they have seen and I just can't tell them that they are nut's or that they didn't see what they thought they saw. I know I have never seen a ufo and I guess I will always be skeptical until it happends.

There are unexplained things happening on this earth all of the time. If satan is the prince and the power of the air, it stands to reason to me that they are doing something down here. I think that they are the visions of [EDIT] on the side of houses and trees etc, LOL.

 

[nephilimiyr]

No, it says "had". I don't think they are still full. It is just referring to the angel that had the vials coming over to talk to John. There is no more pouring out after Rev 17. In Rev 18 is the destruction of Babylon with fire.

I can agree with that but again 17:1 doesn't let us know which angel talked to John. It mearly says that one of them did.

 

[nephilimiyr]

I just noticed your username LOL. Doesn't that mean fallen angel?

No it means what I had just explained what it means...aren't you listening...

 

[Big Mouth Nana]

No it means what I had just explained what it means...aren't you listening...

Well, when it's 1:30 in the morning, and your eyes are crossed into your nose from wanting to go to sleep, it's easy to miss a post ZZZZzzzzz. So, your username means that you are the offspring of the fallen angels, and iyr means watcher.? This is confusing by what you said...The "fallen angels", the angels that sinned, not the "fallen ones", took human women to marry them. The fallen angels ARE THE ONES who sinned.

 

[Buzz_Lightyear]

Hi all,

I think Nep's username means that he watches out for the fallen ones.

This is off topic, but can someone point me to the verse where it says fallen angels had off spring with human women? I always thought angels were incapable off this I'm sure I read something similar in Genesis somewhere but cannot put my finger on it...

Thanks

 

[@@Paul@@]

Hi all,

I think Nep's username means that he watches out for the fallen ones.

This is off topic, but can someone point me to the verse where it says fallen angels had off spring with human women? I always thought angels were incapable off this I'm sure I read something similar in Genesis somewhere but cannot put my finger on it...

Thanks

No fallen angel had any "offspring" with human women.

...they may have left their post to have "relations" with "strange flesh" but, angels do not reproduce.

Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.​

 

[In Christ Forever]

...The "fallen angels", the angels that sinned, not the "fallen ones", took human women to marry them. The fallen angels ARE THE ONES who sinned.

I believe the ones who called on the name of the Lord were the "angels", and those that became disobedient were "fallen" ones. That is one view I guess. Abraham was the father of Nations, and his descendants became "sons of disobedience", as they were chosen by the Lord, but like all men, they fell because of sin. Only after the blood of Christ was shed, could that sin be taken away and His Spirit dwells in those that call on His Name.


Gene 4:26 And as for Seth, to him also a son was born; and he named him Enosh. Then [men] began to call on the name of the LORD



John 3:28 "You yourselves bear me witness, that I said, 'I am not the Christ,' but, 'I have been sent before Him.' 29 "He who has the bride is the bridegroom; but the friend of the bridegroom, who stands and hears him, rejoices greatly because of the bridegroom's voice. Therefore this joy of mine is fulfilled.

 

[Buzz_Lightyear]

No fallen angel had any "offspring" with human women.

...they may have left their post to have "relations" with "strange flesh" but, angels do not reproduce.

Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.​

Thanks Paul, once again

It's amazing how scripture can be twisted and become completely confusing

 

[Buzz_Lightyear]

I believe the ones who called on the name of the Lord were the "angels", and those that became disobedient were "fallen" ones. That is one view I guess.

Gene 4:26 And as for Seth, to him also a son was born; and he named him Enosh. Then [men] began to call on the name of the LORD

John 3:28 "You yourselves bear me witness, that I said, 'I am not the Christ,' but, 'I have been sent before Him.' 29 "He who has the bride is the bridegroom; but the friend of the bridegroom, who stands and hears him, rejoices greatly because of the bridegroom's voice. Therefore this joy of mine is fulfilled.

Hi there!

Yeah maybe. But as Paul has confirmed angels cannot reproduce.

Thanks for responding!

 

[In Christ Forever]

All I can say, is thank you Lord Jesus!!!

Gene 4:26 And as for Seth, to him also a son was born; and he named him Enosh. Then [men] began to call on the name of the LORD


Joel 2:32 And it shall come to pass [That] whoever calls on the name of the LORD Shall be saved. For in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there shall be deliverance, As the LORD has said, Among the remnant whom the LORD calls.

39 "for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say, 'Blessed [is] He who comes in the name of the LORD!' "


acts 2:21 And it shall come to pass [That] whoever calls on the name of the LORD Shall be saved.'


1 corin 2:9 But as it is written: "Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, Nor have entered into the heart of man The things which God has prepared for those who love Him." 10 But God has revealed [them] to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God. 11 For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God.

 

[Big Mouth Nana]

Hi all,

I think Nep's username means that he watches out for the fallen ones.

This is off topic, but can someone point me to the verse where it says fallen angels had off spring with human women? I always thought angels were incapable off this I'm sure I read something similar in Genesis somewhere but cannot put my finger on it...

Thanks

Gen 6:1-2 ~ And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. It already says that they took the daughters of men, so the sons of God had to be part of the angelic host. Otherwise, if this makes sense to you, this verse would read, that men saw the daughters of men that they were fair etc. Does this makes sense?

 

[@@Paul@@]

Thanks Paul, once again

It's amazing how scripture can be twisted and become completely confusing

(Gen 6:2 KJV) That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
(Gen 6:3 KJV) And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
(Gen 6:4 KJV) There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.​

...I think some teach the "giants" were because Angels (of the fallen kind, the one's Jesus "preached to") and "daugthers of man" procreated.

When i see a hippo procreate with an elephant to create a elepotymus > I'll believe it. - among other things...