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Eila
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Not at all.
Romans 8 "2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death."
Spirit as indicated from Strongs
of the Spirit
New Testament Greek Definition:
4151 pneuma {pnyoo'-mah}
from 4154; TDNT - 6:332,876; n n
AV - Spirit 111, Holy Ghost 89, Spirit (of God) 13,
Spirit (of the Lord) 5, (My) Spirit 3, Spirit (of truth) 3,
Spirit (of Christ) 2, human (spirit) 49, (evil) spirit 47,
spirit (general) 26, spirit 8, (Jesus' own) spirit 6,
(Jesus' own) ghost 2, misc 21; 385
1) the third person of the triune God, the Holy Spirit, coequal,
coeternal with the Father and the Son
1a) sometimes referred to in a way which emphasises his
personality and character (the \\Holy\\ Spirit)
1b) sometimes referred to in a way which emphasises his work
and power (the Spirit of \\Truth\\)
1c) never referred to as a depersonalised force
2) the spirit, i.e. the vital principal by which the body is animated
2a) the rational spirit, the power by which the human being feels,
thinks, decides
2b) the soul
3) a spirit, i.e. a simple essence, devoid of all or at least
all grosser matter, and possessed of the power of knowing,
desiring, deciding, and acting
3a) a life giving spirit
3b) a human soul that has left the body
3c) a spirit higher than man but lower than God, i.e. an angel
3c1) used of demons, or evil spirits, who were conceived
as inhabiting the bodies of men
3c2) the spiritual nature of Christ, higher than the highest
angels and equal to God, the divine nature of Christ
4) the disposition or influence which fills and governs the soul
of any one
4a) the efficient source of any power, affection, emotion, desire, etc.
5) a movement of air (a gentle blast)
5a) of the wind, hence the wind itself
5b) breath of nostrils or mouth
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Eila
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That would be a different subject. Is that isolated text what you are basing the spirit of the law on?
That would make the essence of the law as the impregnator of Mary. That would make the essence of the law as what led Jesus into the wilderness.
That would make the essence of the law as what was received at Pentecost.
Etc....
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I hope you don't mind that i don't really want to discuss that right now. I am a bit hungry for an answer to post #171.
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WailingWall
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Romans 7:14
For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Now you have
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Hi awl
Is your god a wishy washy god?
A few thousand yrs you must keep the sabbath!
For 2 thousand yrs, dont bother
1000 yr period of rest-you must keep it again
ISAIAH 66 [22] For as the NEW HEAVENS AND THE NEW EARTH, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain. [23] And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and FROM ONE SABBATH TO ANOTHER, shall ALL FLESH COME TO WORSHIP BEFORE ME, saith the Lord.
My God is....
Hebrews 13 [8] Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
Is your god a wishy washy god?
A few thousand yrs you must keep the sabbath!
For 2 thousand yrs, dont bother
1000 yr period of rest-you must keep it again
ISAIAH 66 [22] For as the NEW HEAVENS AND THE NEW EARTH, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain. [23] And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and FROM ONE SABBATH TO ANOTHER, shall ALL FLESH COME TO WORSHIP BEFORE ME, saith the Lord.
My God is....
Hebrews 13 [8] Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
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Eila
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Now I have a text that talks about the "spirit of the law"? Where is there "spirit of the law" in that text? How does "the law is spiritual" equal the "spirit of the law"? According to the Greek how does spiritual equal essence?
spiritual
New Testament Greek Definition:
4152 pneumatikos {pnyoo-mat-ik-os'}
from 4151; TDNT - 6:332,876; adj
AV - spiritual 26; 26
1) relating to the human spirit, or rational soul, as part of the man
which is akin to God and serves as his instrument or organ
1a) that which possesses the nature of the rational soul
2) belonging to a spirit, or a being higher than man but inferior to God
3) belonging to the Divine Spirit
3a) of God the Holy Spirit
3b) one who is filled with and governed by the Spirit of God
4) pertaining to the wind or breath; windy, exposed to the wind, blowing
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freeindeed2
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It simply doesn't!
It's a phrase used by those promoting law instead of Jesus Christ.In Christ alone...
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Hey PK. I don't have much time this morning...but perhaps this afternoon I can get back to you and answer your posting. But heres a question for you. Do you believe that all humans has in dwelling sin? If so what is the power of that indwelling sin?
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Hi ,
Those who will oppose you here will say that this texts is taken out of context and the phrases in the texts' that say God will make a new heaven and a new earth don't "really mean that at all". So the parts that say we will come and worship before the Lord each Sabbath is not literal either. Some will call this "proof texting" or "key phrasing".
At any rate if they accept what it really says in Isa 66 they cannot in good faith continue to not celebrate the Sabbath today. 99.9999% of all of this law arguement is over the 4th commandment. You won't find that any of the modern day Christians have a real problem with any of the other ten commandments. I think this is significant in light of what the Bible tells us for the last days and the influence of the enemy of our souls.
God Bless
Jim Larmore
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I wish you had included two other facts.
In the entire book of Genesis the Sabbath is not mentioned at all.
During the entire captivity in Egypt the Hebrews did not observe the Sabbath and God still considered them to be His people and delivered them.
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freeindeed2
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You're making claims about one verse (and even then you ignore the New Moons, which I doubt you're observing), but you still have yet to deal with why ch. 65 & 66 also speak of the wicked still living (only to 100), death still being present, the horror the saints experience every time they view the dead bodies strewn about being eaten by worms, the fact that they still have to work the ground, they build their own houses (instead of living in the mansions God has prepared), and on and on. So, YES! You and others have plucked part of one verse out because in that partial phrase it can be used to promote the law, specifically the 4th C. But you do so while ignoring everything else around it.
In Christ alone...
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Wrong again, the word Sabbaton is used ( which is synomymous to Sabbath ) in the original language ( hebrew ) when describing God taking a break from creation. That old arguement does not hold water.
God Bless
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So when the text says "he rested from ALL His work" which He had made it really meant that He took a break from some of His work. This is an absolute gem.
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Originally Posted by WailingWall
Romans 7:14
For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Now you have
Posted by Eila
Now I have a text that talks about the "spirit of the law"? Where is there "spirit of the law" in that text? How does "the law is spiritual" equal the "spirit of the law"? According to the Greek how does spiritual equal essence?
Posted by WW
Your kiddin, right? If you cant see that the law is spiritual i do understand. Prophecy fulfilled.
Isaiah 42:21
The Lord is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.
Do you also believe Jesus did not magnify the law but put an end to the law. Again, if so, i understand. Prophecy fulfilled.
Romans 7:14
For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Now you have
Posted by Eila
Now I have a text that talks about the "spirit of the law"? Where is there "spirit of the law" in that text? How does "the law is spiritual" equal the "spirit of the law"? According to the Greek how does spiritual equal essence?
Posted by WW
Your kiddin, right? If you cant see that the law is spiritual i do understand. Prophecy fulfilled.
Isaiah 42:21
The Lord is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.
Do you also believe Jesus did not magnify the law but put an end to the law. Again, if so, i understand. Prophecy fulfilled.
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