The scientific myth of creationism

[Willtor]

but science is not about what is right or wrong or ab out being fact or not. science is about finding or looking for EVERY possible idea of how why what when ect of what is being studied. SO creationism can be scientific without it being correct. it just may be a scientific look at something in which it shows how it DOESNT work or happen or whatever. Or it could be how it does work or happen ect. Science is nice and important but NOT that important. We survived thousands of years without it did we not. not much of science has made us live better maybe longer but not better. depending on your view of things. Or maybe i should say happier or more content ect.

It _could_ have been scientific but I'm not sure it ever even became an hypothesis. It certainly isn't a defunct theory (like ether) because it was never a theory. It was an idea that was designed this past century and never really took off - except in the eyes of the American public.

 

[artybloke]

not much of science has made us live better maybe longer but not better. depending on your view of things. Or maybe i should say happier or more content ect.

Maybe it's just me; but the fact that I don't have to die of the plague at the age of 20, and that children no longer on the whole die of mumps and rubella, does make me feel rather more happy than I would otherwise be.

 

[Assyrian]

Actually there is a serious problem in geriatric medicine. People are surviving longer with chronic illnesses, but the flip side is they are surviving chronically ill.

There was an interesting article in New Scientist last month, it is probably subscription only:

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/opinion/mg19626251.600-death-special-the-bitter-end.html

This has profound consequences for humanity. In the UK, for example, if current trends persist, the number of people more than 65 years old is predicted to triple from 4.6 million now to 15.5 million in 2074, while the population aged over 100 will increase 100-fold from 10,000 to 1 million. The future is not just old, it is extremely old. We are voyaging into a new realm of human life that has hardly existed before and about which we know very little.

Unfortunately this increase in lifespan has not been matched by an extension of health. The years we gain are mostly spent with disability, disease and dementia. Between 1991 and 2001, life expectancy in the UK increased by 2.2 years, but healthy life expectancy increased by only 0.6 years; people experienced ill health for an extra 1.6 years of their lives. This is because we have not been able to slow the ageing process; much of the increased lifespan is due to increased survival with chronic diseases.

 

[shernren]

The length of our days is seventy years--
or eighty, if we have the strength;
yet their span is but trouble and sorrow,
for they quickly pass, and we fly away.
(Psalms 90:10 NIV)

 

[Assyrian]

And who wrote that?

 

[USincognito]

Questions for Schroeder - did you microwave anything in the last week, did you use a telephone to speak to love ones distant from you in the last month, did you have any dental work done without novacaine in the last couple of years, did you adjust the termostat in your house in the last few weeks, did you eat anything stored in a refrigerator in the last 48 hours, did you do any laundry in the last 5 days, did you drive or use public transportation to get to work in the last 1-3 days, did you check out a book from the library in the last month, did you go see a doctor in the last year or so for something related to pain or illness and have you taken an asprin, cold medication, used mouthwash or eaten a cereal with bran ever?

 

[Schroeder]

Questions for Schroeder - did you microwave anything in the last week, did you use a telephone to speak to love ones distant from you in the last month, did you have any dental work done without novacaine in the last couple of years, did you adjust the termostat in your house in the last few weeks, did you eat anything stored in a refrigerator in the last 48 hours, did you do any laundry in the last 5 days, did you drive or use public transportation to get to work in the last 1-3 days, did you check out a book from the library in the last month, did you go see a doctor in the last year or so for something related to pain or illness and have you taken an asprin, cold medication, used mouthwash or eaten a cereal with bran ever?

these dont make me happier. just fatter and lazier. ALl these make our lives easier not better. its seems we did well without these seeing how we are all still here. And i doubt you will find any more unhappier people then then you will find unhappy people today. i think you will find more unhappy people now.

 

[artybloke]

these dont make me happier. just fatter and lazier. ALl these make our lives easier not better. its seems we did well without these seeing how we are all still here. And i doubt you will find any more unhappier people then then you will find unhappy people today. i think you will find more unhappy people now.

I have to say that, whenever people start praising the "good old day" when people died of the flu, lived to the ripe old age of 35 and worked themselves into the grave in fields and factories, I'm reminded of a little verse from the Roman poet Martial

They always praise the good old days,
us young'uns get no mention.
I don't see why I have to die
to gain your kind attention...

The length of our days is seventy years--

Only if you lived in a palace, and had slaves wait on your every whim, shernren.

 

[Willtor]

No, before the Middle Ages, if a man survived childhood, he was likely to live just about as long as we do, today. The rise of great cities lowered the life expectancy.