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psst.... while off topic - this well worn Democratic byline was debunked during Trump's first term - who debunked it - oh, the IRS

Props to the never ending repeating, but no one believe it anymore - it might just be why the Democrats are in chaos and have historically low ratings -

But please - feel free to repeat it as of ten as you please - it helps Republican gain votes.
Okay, fine. I'll lay off the tax breaks for billionaires bit if you can show me that Republicans care about health care subsidies for those who need them.

-- A2SG, ball's in your court, dude....
 
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I'm so sorry to hear all that. If the USA gets too awful, is there any chance you and yours would move to Australia? Once you became citizens Medicare he is so much better!

If the worst comes to worst I have a sister who lives in Switzerland. Her ex is Swiss German and after they divorced she liked the country so much she stayed. She asked about my health insurance already and offered to help pay for it if needed, but I don't want to go that route.

I love this country, with all its faults, but I want to see it improved, not destroyed. IMO, the people in charge are destroying it. All the people who used to champion states rights and the constitution seem happy to have it shredded if done so in the service of a cause they support. We are committing human rights abuses and terrorizing our own citizens. I'm praying we survive and that all things truly will work for good.
 
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Okay, fine. I'll lay off the tax breaks for billionaires bit
No - no please don't stop! It helps the Republican Party in numerous ways - please continue. Maybe add in 34 convictions and sex accusations - that's been having great results!
if you can show me that Republicans care about health care subsidies for those who need them.

CBO: Democrats Covered Up Widespread Fraud and Abuse in Federal Health Programs

Recent analysis by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) confirms that Democrats conducted a years-long, massive cover-up to defraud American taxpayers in order to subsidize fraud, waste, and abuse in federal health programs, including using loopholes to provide free health care to illegal immigrants. Republicans put an end to these generous unjustified subsidies and instead lowered premiums for those properly enrolled in the program and provided a massive tax cut to the middle class in The One, Big, Beautiful Bill, signed into law on July 4th.​
Lawmakers requested CBO provide critical context behind their topline coverage estimates resulting from the health reforms in The One, Big, Beautiful Bill. CBO’s latest analysis makes clear that The One, Big, Beautiful Bill is not taking coverage away from hardworking Americans but is ending billions in subsidies for illegal immigrants, cracking down on fraud, and restoring integrity to health care programs. CBO estimates that the policies in the new law dealing with health insurance marketplace premium tax credit eligibility would reduce those who should not be getting taxpayer subsidies by 2.1 million in 2034.​
Additionally, CBO confirms Republicans’ concerns with massive improper enrollment in Obamacare. The agency not only finds that Democrat policies have led to at least 2.3 million fraudulent enrollees in Obamacare, but also that common sense Republican program integrity reforms in The One, Big, Beautiful Bill will lower premiums for those truly eligible for the program while putting an end to these abuses.​
Why do the Democrats want 1.2 trillion in fraud re established? Ever wonder about that.
https://waysandmeans.house.gov/2025...d-fraud-and-abuse-in-federal-health-programs/
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White House says it will use tariff money to fund nutrition program amid shutdown


Why don't the Democrats care as much?
 
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1) if zero people are arriving illegally then the (false) argument that dems want to give free Healthcare to undocumented is moot.

2) Americans cant even get free health care. Why would people believe the undocumented would?

 
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No - no please don't stop! It helps the Republican Party in numerous ways - please continue. Maybe add in 34 convictions and sex accusations - that's been having great results!

CBO: Democrats Covered Up Widespread Fraud and Abuse in Federal Health Programs

Recent analysis by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) confirms that Democrats conducted a years-long, massive cover-up to defraud American taxpayers in order to subsidize fraud, waste, and abuse in federal health programs, including using loopholes to provide free health care to illegal immigrants. Republicans put an end to these generous unjustified subsidies and instead lowered premiums for those properly enrolled in the program and provided a massive tax cut to the middle class in The One, Big, Beautiful Bill, signed into law on July 4th.​
Lawmakers requested CBO provide critical context behind their topline coverage estimates resulting from the health reforms in The One, Big, Beautiful Bill. CBO’s latest analysis makes clear that The One, Big, Beautiful Bill is not taking coverage away from hardworking Americans but is ending billions in subsidies for illegal immigrants, cracking down on fraud, and restoring integrity to health care programs. CBO estimates that the policies in the new law dealing with health insurance marketplace premium tax credit eligibility would reduce those who should not be getting taxpayer subsidies by 2.1 million in 2034.​
Additionally, CBO confirms Republicans’ concerns with massive improper enrollment in Obamacare. The agency not only finds that Democrat policies have led to at least 2.3 million fraudulent enrollees in Obamacare, but also that common sense Republican program integrity reforms in The One, Big, Beautiful Bill will lower premiums for those truly eligible for the program while putting an end to these abuses.​
Why do the Democrats want 1.2 trillion in fraud re established? Ever wonder about that.

CBO: Democrats Covered Up Widespread Fraud and Abuse in Federal Health Programs - Ways and Means
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White House says it will use tariff money to fund nutrition program amid shutdown


Why don't the Democrats care as much?
That report was good for a chuckle. Those here, like the Ukrainians, the South Africans, the Cubans, the Haitians who are here on temporary legal status, are not "illegal immigrants."
 
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That report was good for a chuckle. Those here, like the Ukrainians, the South Africans, the Cubans, the Haitians who are here on temporary legal status, are not "illegal immigrants."
Good thing the article did not say they were - !
 
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1) if zero people are arriving illegally then the (false) argument that dems want to give free Healthcare to undocumented is moot.
What about the millions upon millions that illegally entered during the Biden Admin - are you forgetting them?
2) Americans cant even get free health care. Why would people believe the undocumented would?
There is no such thing as free health care - unless you do not pay taxes or the hospital, doctors, nurses and drug companies stop charging.
 
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What about the millions upon millions that illegally entered during the Biden Admin - are you forgetting them?

Mute point: They can't sign up for government health care programs.
The only care that is potentially funded is Emergency Care, which, by law, all hopitals are obligated to provide - regardless of a person's immigration status.
 
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